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News Credits: 5749 · Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:25 pm

Not a fan of Transformers ROTF? Apparently neither is it's director Michael Bay. MSN recently posted an article in which Director Michael Bay admits Transformers ROTF wasn't very good. The article references Bay's recent interview with EMPIRE magazine. He cites the 2007-2008 writers strike as a chief contributor to the film's lackluster story. He goes on to say they only had 14 pages worth of story and an idea of what the movie should be.

We made some mistakes... When I look back at it, that was c**p.

To read the entire article and see what the film's leading actor Shia LaBeouf had to say click here

News Credits: 3 · Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:36 pm

This just in: Bay also admits: Sky is blue! Earth revolves on its axis once every 24 hours! Water is wet!

Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:36 pm

no sh!t sherlock

Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:40 pm

Faint………………… Heh just kidding…… Wait! Why am I feeling weird? Heart hammering, muscles twitching, limbs going cold, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!

Doctor’s note: patient died of surprise do to amazingly unusual news, hey Nightbeat get the body bag over here.

News Credits: 1 · Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:43 pm

i liked ROTF. there, i said it

Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:52 pm

Two things.
1. Why are we getting recycled news over and over, we've already heard about this interview.
2. We should have to admit that the 2nd movie was influenced by the strike. Sure it might have still had the juvenile jokes and action over plot, but I think it would have been more coherent with more resources available. It might have been better to delay the movie til after the strike, but there might have been property rights and stuff involved (like losing trademarks on names and stuff).

On another note. I personally enjoyed ROTF when I focus mostly on the Optimus scenes and ignore the twins.

News Credits: 1 · Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:53 pm

(sigh) That's great Mike, now mail it back to 2 years ago when it could've mattered...

Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:55 pm

Dr. Heavy B wrote:i liked ROTF. there, i said it

I still don't find it a very good movie, but I wouldn't mind it even a fraction as much if it weren't for there being so much crybabying about people not liking it that you're almost forced to like it just to shut them up. There's a whole lot in it that I can happily overlook if it weren't for people being babies that they love it and I don't.
I think I dislike the fans more than I dislike the movie..... And that's not a personal thing against anybody who likes it either. I live in Chicago and I hate the Bears because I find their fans tragically obnoxious, and ROTF gets similar hate from me.

News Credits: 1 · Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:06 pm

I left the theater happy with both movies. Each left me wanting more. Sure, there's sections I skip watching the dvd. But really I do that with any movie because I can't stand filler, I just want my favorite parts. Maybe that's why I still like ROTF in a world that hates it. There's lots of tidbits that I find great in it, like the opening battle in China, the Forest Battle, or Jetfire's introduction.

Shia -

Then it's just a bunch of robots fighting each other

- Yes please... more robots fighting each other. I don't even care if it makes sense anymore, I love seeing metal mashing. Hell, cameo Jazz walking across the screen waving in the background like nothing ever happened to him for all I care. Robots smaaaaash.

Feels like Bay is just distancing himself from it because he's been told to. I doubt he really feels it was crap, maybe not great or as good as the vision of it was, but probably not crap. Many have said they wouldn't return for the next installment, now he's trying to alleviate fears and win back some that complained. If he wanted to do something humorous ,it'd be great to see a movie critic character get squished in DOTM.

News Credits: 37 · Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:25 pm

Screw this crap. He's just saying it to get people to see DOTM. He and I both know that ROTF is awesome.

Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:42 pm

oolldd news
I bet if i made a cut of both movies joined together to make one movie, the parts worth keeping would be shorter than either of them. Sad part is that he complains about bad writing.... well, there isn't that much dialogue in the end fight scene with the Fallen... am I asking too much for a battle with the infernal Fallen to last a while?... a while longer than the forest scene perhaps? This is Transformers, not... 'lets make the audience wait forever through boring dialogue and no action for itty bits of action'

Then again, tf movies are like most sci-fi cg movies nowadays.... sigh.

News Credits: 251 · Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:46 pm

I thought it was the best thing that happened since the Bible! :-(

Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:47 pm

SlyTF1 wrote:Screw this crap. He's just saying it to get people to see DOTM. He and I both know that ROTF is awesome.

Actually, this is probably somewhat right. He probably figures because of all the negative reactions of ROTF that no one will go see this upcoming film. However, I do believe there is some honesty in his words here. I mean, he did the whole story in three weeks. I'm sure he wasn't satisfied with that amount of time. Michael Bay doesn't seem to like feeling rushed too well. He even wanted DOTM to be released in 2012 initially, so that he wouldn't feel rushed. Maybe he just thinks he could've done more with ROTF than he did. He shouldn't beat himself up over it though.

And ROTF being awesome is still a personal opinion...you can't know if it's awesome or not.

News Credits: 37 · Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:50 pm

OptiMagnus10 wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:Screw this crap. He's just saying it to get people to see DOTM. He and I both know that ROTF is awesome.

Actually, this is probably somewhat right. He probably figures because of all the negative reactions of ROTF that no one will go see this upcoming film. However, I do believe there is some honesty in his words here. I mean, he did the whole story in three weeks. I'm sure he wasn't satisfied with that amount of time. Michael Bay doesn't seem to like feeling rushed too well. He even wanted DOTM to be released in 2012 initially, so that he wouldn't feel rushed. Maybe he just thinks he could've done more with ROTF than he did. He shouldn't beat himself up over it though.

And ROTF being awesome is still a personal opinion...you can't know if it's awesome or not.

Still, I think it's one of the best things ever to be done with Transformers.

News Credits: 226 · Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:57 pm

MINDVVIPE wrote:Sad part is that he complains about bad writing....

What's so sad about it? Orci and Kurtzman couldn't write their way out of a wet paper bag if their lives depended on it.

Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:59 pm

SlyTF1 wrote:
OptiMagnus10 wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:Screw this crap. He's just saying it to get people to see DOTM. He and I both know that ROTF is awesome.

Actually, this is probably somewhat right. He probably figures because of all the negative reactions of ROTF that no one will go see this upcoming film. However, I do believe there is some honesty in his words here. I mean, he did the whole story in three weeks. I'm sure he wasn't satisfied with that amount of time. Michael Bay doesn't seem to like feeling rushed too well. He even wanted DOTM to be released in 2012 initially, so that he wouldn't feel rushed. Maybe he just thinks he could've done more with ROTF than he did. He shouldn't beat himself up over it though.

And ROTF being awesome is still a personal opinion...you can't know if it's awesome or not.

Still, I think it's one of the best things ever to be done with Transformers.

Better statement. And I can agree 100%. But I have no doubt that DOTM will still manage to rock even more.

News Credits: 37 · Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:01 pm

Burn wrote:
MINDVVIPE wrote:Sad part is that he complains about bad writing....

What's so sad about it? Orci and Kurtzman couldn't write their way out of a wet paper bag if their lives depended on it.

This. Not even Prime has the awesome story I thought it would have at first. It kind of does have "human Decepticons" though.

PS: Another sign of their uncreativenes is the harvester in the next episode. It looks just like a piece of Eden from Assassin's Creed and it does the exact same thing. And it's found almost in the same place of the world. Almost.

Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:08 pm

Burn wrote:
MINDVVIPE wrote:Sad part is that he complains about bad writing....

What's so sad about it? Orci and Kurtzman couldn't write their way out of a wet paper bag if their lives depended on it.

Whatever, I wasn't referring to their writing. I was just making the point that a "fight scene" makes use of a team of storyboarders and so on, and have more freedom to just have battle choreography... in a script, it would just say somthing like:
Fight scene
Megatron and Starscream are wounded, flee
Optimus kills the Fallen

Thats leaves so much room for a lengthy battle. That was my point.

News Credits: 1 · Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:18 pm

Yet another 3 paragraph rant scrapped at the last second because you ignorant jackasses aren't worth getting banned over. :BOOM:

Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:25 pm

*reads the thread*

That's nice. I still thought it was great.

T-Macksimus wrote:Yet another 3 paragraph rant scrapped at the last second because you ignorant jackasses aren't worth getting banned over.

Not posting your rant is pointless if you still call everyone who liked it "ignorant jackasses." Just some friendly advice. Also quoted for to avoid further edits.

Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:26 pm

Yes! The more he says it, the more I want to see DOTM. I want to quote that bit from Raising Arizona where those prison psychiatrists ask Nic Cage if he's just telling them what they want to hear, and Cage says he is telling them what they want to hear because he's telling the truth, but seeing as it's not on Wikiquote, I know I'd just butcher it.

Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:27 pm

SlyTF1 wrote:Screw this crap. He's just saying it to get people to see DOTM. He and I both know that ROTF is awesome.

News Credits: 8 · Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:28 pm

so it took him over a year to find out what we and every one else on the planet knew 2 years ago? No i know whats going on, this is all a ploy to make people think hes seen the error in his ways to try and make people think DOTM might actually be good but really, he still thinks ROTF was the greatest thing ever. Only way DOTM could be good is if bay and those morons that currently write tf:prime (can never remember their names, the ones that fraked up star trek) had no hand in the writing or planing of the script. Bays got a decent filming style but his imagination and scripting abilities suck.

Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:34 pm

Megatron Wolf wrote:so it took him over a year to find out what we and every one else on the planet knew 2 years ago?

Except everyone who loved it. You know, $800+ million's worth of moviegoers. Just sayin', ya know?

Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:37 pm

Capt.Failure wrote:
Megatron Wolf wrote:so it took him over a year to find out what we and every one else on the planet knew 2 years ago?

Except everyone who loved it. You know, $800+ million's worth of moviegoers. Just sayin', ya know?

Yea man, don't you know? so many people loved the movie, so its gota be good. When lots of people like something, thats how you know its good, how else would you know its good?
Lots of people do crack, I bet crack is good for ya too. Time for some crack.

I'm just kidding round by the way, not tryin to hurt ye feelings