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Tronus_Rex wrote:[You think that's stuff is used like tobacco &...er, "medicinal" purposes, by 'Bots & 'Cons?]
Well, while I agree that this was kinda strange. I can understand Megatron: He never had bad experience with Earth, unlike G1, Movie and Animated Counterparts, and he already had gained what he came for. Destroyin Earth when he technically won there was kinda uncesseary. Also, you don't expect to see Earth destroyed for real in show mostly for kids, don't you?Sabrblade wrote:And then the Cons took their big weapon of death and destruction and just ran away, leaving Earth under full Autobot control and protection.TurboMMaster wrote:Decepticons can be consider as a wining side of "Earth Campaign", because they gain the most powerfull known weapon in the universe, and Prime died, leaving autobot with young and weak leader.Sabrblade wrote:When did this happen in Armada (which was only one season, btw)?TurboMMaster wrote:Also Decepticons won a lot in seasons finale. In Beast Wars, Aramda and Prime we got non-final conclusion with Decepticons wining.
It's hard to deny, and it's hard to mind him this. But it is still not enough to excuse he's weak directorship.SKYWARPED_128 wrote:In the eyes of Jackson and Lucas, LotR and SW are their babies, their preciousssss (). Bay had the TF movie thrust upon him by Spielberg, and he only took on the job out of respect for the man.
Sad but true, also movies never were created for fans, but for teenagers and action movies fans. Bu you see, the main problem is, that already mentioned movies like LotR and Star Wars were good movies in term of fights and action without beign dumb and bad unfair.SKYWARPED_128 wrote: trilogy is an exceedingly risky and expensive undertaking, and before the first movie had proven itself, Paramount had no reason to even suspect that the franchise might be worth the investment. Sadly, Paramount still doesn't think so. They're willing to let the franchise continue for as long as it can sell tickets, but are ready to pull the plug at any time.
TurboMMaster wrote:Sad but true, also movies never were created for fans, but for teenagers and action movies fans. Bu you see, the main problem is, that already mentioned movies like LotR and Star Wars were good movies in term of fights and action without beign dumb and bad unfair.
Oh, I never expected him to destroy Earth, no. All he was trying to destroy with the Hydra Cannon was the Autobots' base on Earth, not the planet itself. So with that base destroyed, he could have been free to conquer the Earth. But even though he failed to destroy that base, he didn't even attempt try again after the first time and just up and left the planet even though he was still fully capable of taking over it.TurboMMaster wrote:Well, while I agree that this was kinda strange. I can understand Megatron: He never had bad experience with Earth, unlike G1, Movie and Animated Counterparts, and he already had gained what he came for. Destroyin Earth when he technically won there was kinda uncesseary. Also, you don't expect to see Earth destroyed for real in show mostly for kids, don't you?Sabrblade wrote:And then the Cons took their big weapon of death and destruction and just ran away, leaving Earth under full Autobot control and protection.TurboMMaster wrote:Decepticons can be consider as a wining side of "Earth Campaign", because they gain the most powerfull known weapon in the universe, and Prime died, leaving autobot with young and weak leader.Sabrblade wrote:When did this happen in Armada (which was only one season, btw)?TurboMMaster wrote:Also Decepticons won a lot in seasons finale. In Beast Wars, Aramda and Prime we got non-final conclusion with Decepticons wining.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
cruizerdave wrote:I get so sick and tired of people saying, "so what if it's not G1, I still like it."
My dislike of Bayformers has nothing to do with "is it G1 or not." It has everything to do with these movies being complete trash, full of unfunny frat boy humor including weird racism, gay sex jokes, dog piss, robot piss, fetish shots of every female lead ... Not to mention the characters all act like they're on cocaine all the time, the stories have no internal or external logic (Transformers fly through space without spaceships, where they will experience colder temperatures than anywhere on planet Earth, yet how do you stop them? Why with cold of course!) and they're just dumb.
cruizerdave wrote:I get so sick and tired of people saying, "so what if it's not G1, I still like it." As if the only criticism of Bayformers is that it's not G1. It's like you're saying anyone who doesn't care for Bayformers is "too much of a geek because it's the kewlist thang evar!"
My dislike of Bayformers has nothing to do with "is it G1 or not." It has everything to do with these movies being complete trash, full of unfunny frat boy humor including weird racism, gay sex jokes, dog piss, robot piss, fetish shots of every female lead ... Not to mention the characters all act like they're on cocaine all the time, the stories have no internal or external logic (Transformers fly through space without spaceships, where they will experience colder temperatures than anywhere on planet Earth, yet how do you stop them? Why with cold of course!) and they're just dumb.
If you like it, fine, good for you. Don't try and disparage people who have different (and most likely BETTER) taste than yourself by trying to pigeon hole them into the whole "it's not GEEWON! TRUKK NOT MONKEY" crap.
SlyTF1 wrote:cruizerdave wrote:I get so sick and tired of people saying, "so what if it's not G1, I still like it." As if the only criticism of Bayformers is that it's not G1. It's like you're saying anyone who doesn't care for Bayformers is "too much of a geek because it's the kewlist thang evar!"
My dislike of Bayformers has nothing to do with "is it G1 or not." It has everything to do with these movies being complete trash, full of unfunny frat boy humor including weird racism, gay sex jokes, dog piss, robot piss, fetish shots of every female lead ... Not to mention the characters all act like they're on cocaine all the time, the stories have no internal or external logic (Transformers fly through space without spaceships, where they will experience colder temperatures than anywhere on planet Earth, yet how do you stop them? Why with cold of course!) and they're just dumb.
If you like it, fine, good for you. Don't try and disparage people who have different (and most likely BETTER) taste than yourself by trying to pigeon hole them into the whole "it's not GEEWON! TRUKK NOT MONKEY" crap.
Who the hell stopped a Cybertronian with cold?
njb902 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:cruizerdave wrote:I get so sick and tired of people saying, "so what if it's not G1, I still like it." As if the only criticism of Bayformers is that it's not G1. It's like you're saying anyone who doesn't care for Bayformers is "too much of a geek because it's the kewlist thang evar!"
My dislike of Bayformers has nothing to do with "is it G1 or not." It has everything to do with these movies being complete trash, full of unfunny frat boy humor including weird racism, gay sex jokes, dog piss, robot piss, fetish shots of every female lead ... Not to mention the characters all act like they're on cocaine all the time, the stories have no internal or external logic (Transformers fly through space without spaceships, where they will experience colder temperatures than anywhere on planet Earth, yet how do you stop them? Why with cold of course!) and they're just dumb.
If you like it, fine, good for you. Don't try and disparage people who have different (and most likely BETTER) taste than yourself by trying to pigeon hole them into the whole "it's not GEEWON! TRUKK NOT MONKEY" crap.
Who the hell stopped a Cybertronian with cold?
Section 7. They kept Megatron in cryofreeze.
SlyTF1 wrote:njb902 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:cruizerdave wrote:I get so sick and tired of people saying, "so what if it's not G1, I still like it." As if the only criticism of Bayformers is that it's not G1. It's like you're saying anyone who doesn't care for Bayformers is "too much of a geek because it's the kewlist thang evar!"
My dislike of Bayformers has nothing to do with "is it G1 or not." It has everything to do with these movies being complete trash, full of unfunny frat boy humor including weird racism, gay sex jokes, dog piss, robot piss, fetish shots of every female lead ... Not to mention the characters all act like they're on cocaine all the time, the stories have no internal or external logic (Transformers fly through space without spaceships, where they will experience colder temperatures than anywhere on planet Earth, yet how do you stop them? Why with cold of course!) and they're just dumb.
If you like it, fine, good for you. Don't try and disparage people who have different (and most likely BETTER) taste than yourself by trying to pigeon hole them into the whole "it's not GEEWON! TRUKK NOT MONKEY" crap.
Who the hell stopped a Cybertronian with cold?
Section 7. They kept Megatron in cryofreeze.
He was in his robot mode. Vehicle modes seem to be much more resilient when it comes to environmental dangers. Besides, Megatron was offline to begin with. It was most likely the ice in his joints preventing him from breaking free, and the humans probably know where his weak points are.
njb902 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:njb902 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:cruizerdave wrote:I get so sick and tired of people saying, "so what if it's not G1, I still like it." As if the only criticism of Bayformers is that it's not G1. It's like you're saying anyone who doesn't care for Bayformers is "too much of a geek because it's the kewlist thang evar!"
My dislike of Bayformers has nothing to do with "is it G1 or not." It has everything to do with these movies being complete trash, full of unfunny frat boy humor including weird racism, gay sex jokes, dog piss, robot piss, fetish shots of every female lead ... Not to mention the characters all act like they're on cocaine all the time, the stories have no internal or external logic (Transformers fly through space without spaceships, where they will experience colder temperatures than anywhere on planet Earth, yet how do you stop them? Why with cold of course!) and they're just dumb.
If you like it, fine, good for you. Don't try and disparage people who have different (and most likely BETTER) taste than yourself by trying to pigeon hole them into the whole "it's not GEEWON! TRUKK NOT MONKEY" crap.
Who the hell stopped a Cybertronian with cold?
Section 7. They kept Megatron in cryofreeze.
He was in his robot mode. Vehicle modes seem to be much more resilient when it comes to environmental dangers. Besides, Megatron was offline to begin with. It was most likely the ice in his joints preventing him from breaking free, and the humans probably know where his weak points are.
How is that not stopping him?
SlyTF1 wrote:njb902 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:njb902 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:cruizerdave wrote:I get so sick and tired of people saying, "so what if it's not G1, I still like it." As if the only criticism of Bayformers is that it's not G1. It's like you're saying anyone who doesn't care for Bayformers is "too much of a geek because it's the kewlist thang evar!"
My dislike of Bayformers has nothing to do with "is it G1 or not." It has everything to do with these movies being complete trash, full of unfunny frat boy humor including weird racism, gay sex jokes, dog piss, robot piss, fetish shots of every female lead ... Not to mention the characters all act like they're on cocaine all the time, the stories have no internal or external logic (Transformers fly through space without spaceships, where they will experience colder temperatures than anywhere on planet Earth, yet how do you stop them? Why with cold of course!) and they're just dumb.
If you like it, fine, good for you. Don't try and disparage people who have different (and most likely BETTER) taste than yourself by trying to pigeon hole them into the whole "it's not GEEWON! TRUKK NOT MONKEY" crap.
Who the hell stopped a Cybertronian with cold?
Section 7. They kept Megatron in cryofreeze.
He was in his robot mode. Vehicle modes seem to be much more resilient when it comes to environmental dangers. Besides, Megatron was offline to begin with. It was most likely the ice in his joints preventing him from breaking free, and the humans probably know where his weak points are.
How is that not stopping him?
That's not just cold. They basically weaponized ice to contain one Cybertronian. Plus, I'm sure it was more than just ice. All these years, I kind of assumed they used liquid nitrogen or something like that.
cruizerdave wrote:I get so sick and tired of people saying, "so what if it's not G1, I still like it." As if the only criticism of Bayformers is that it's not G1. It's like you're saying anyone who doesn't care for Bayformers is "too much of a geek because it's the kewlist thang evar!"
My dislike of Bayformers has nothing to do with "is it G1 or not." It has everything to do with these movies being complete trash, full of unfunny frat boy humor including weird racism, gay sex jokes, dog piss, robot piss, fetish shots of every female lead ... Not to mention the characters all act like they're on cocaine all the time, the stories have no internal or external logic (Transformers fly through space without spaceships, where they will experience colder temperatures than anywhere on planet Earth, yet how do you stop them? Why with cold of course!) and they're just dumb.
If you like it, fine, good for you. Don't try and disparage people who have different (and most likely BETTER) taste than yourself by trying to pigeon hole them into the whole "it's not GEEWON! TRUKK NOT MONKEY" crap.
TurboMMaster wrote:Considering that Megatron's Cryofreeze wasn't mentioned in later movies, and in DotM he supposed to ally with Sentinel, no doubt that someone may forget about it, since even writers did it.
TurboMMaster wrote:Megatron regain lost years due to lack of Ehren Kruger's care:D
It is hard to deny, that watch this movie with a few friends in the Cinema, drinking all bears you are able to bring inside is fun. But you may say it about pretty much any action movie.SKYWARPED_128 wrote:The thing with movies like these is that they're designed to work best when you watch it the first time. They're action movies, and you usually find yourself caught up in the all the explosions and fighting so much so that the details don't matter. It's only when you pick through it with a fine-tooth comb on a DVD or BD that it starts to fall apart.
And as much as I like idea of semi-standalone sequels, I think that in Bayformers it is going too far, it's kinda like someone use Time Machine to constantly change the past... Each movie is something about "New revelation about reason why Transforemrs are on Earth"SKYWARPED_128 wrote:As I've pointed out before, TF movies have more in common with the Highlander movies than trilogies. There's little continuity between them, because each was supposed to be a standalone movie.
TurboMMaster wrote:It is hard to deny, that watch this movie with a few friends in the Cinema, drinking all bears you are able to bring inside is fun. But you may say it about pretty much any action movie.
TurboMMaster wrote:And as much as I like idea of semi-standalone sequels, I think that in Bayformers it is going too far, it's kinda like someone use Time Machine to constantly change the past... Each movie is something about "New revelation about reason why Transforemrs are on Earth"
Burn wrote:Nearly seven years later and you people are still going ...
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