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Mark94 wrote:I've never ordered from BBTS before. If you need to cancel your pre-order, can you with no strings attached? Do you just go into your account, select "View Preorders" and then change your quantity to 0 and update?

I just pre-ordered but want to know if I can cancel if needed.

Thanks!

There is no penalty for canceling you preorder, and yes that is how you cancel it. Just enter zero in the amount and update. I canceled my preorders for Protect Black Ironhine and Emergency Green Rachet, with no problem.

Thank you sir!

Yeah, I won't be preordering it it's too expinsive for me. My Classics Ultra Magnus will be naked forever HOwever I did find a very funny picture involving the armor and a Classics U.M http://flickr.com/photos/id0ru/2455154654/

Nice. Those are awesome photos, Ultra _ Magnus 12!

Counterpunch wrote:

Geekee1 wrote:

PrimulArchangel wrote:Way too much for me .. The only way i would buy such a thing is if i could make molds of the ones i buy and then remake the parts and sell them for what they are worth , like 25$ lol .. way too much money for parts even if they are limited.. If they were true fans of the line they wouldnt sell them for so much and make more of them. Make them a price that everyone can afford .. Same goes for that way over priced cliffjumper kit.

This is just absurd. You're talking about a kit made by a couple of guys in China, not a big corporation like Takara or Hasbro. Way to pull out the "true fan" card too, nice.

I actually got to talk to this guy at Botcon and you know wanna know exactly what he said? He said we're fans too and we want as many people as possible to be able to get them. We made this for the fans.

The Cliffjumper kit was originally priced by them at $30. It was the sellers that started upcharging. Know what you're talking about before posting something like that.

Agreed.

Seriously now. To add to this, the maker of these toys explained that they had a really interesting box idea for connecting to the Target Exclusive packaging Magnus already came in.

They nixed the idea, why?

Because they believe the toys are meant to be opened and enjoyed. The guy wanted the fanst to actually put the armor on and see their creation. These people aren't looking to make a dollar, they're supporting the fandom in ways that you and I can't even begin to approach.

Bad game to all the people out there hating on this.

Which is why people shouldn't be buying more than one for themselves. It's unfair that some are buying two or three, just to keep those other ones in box. That just means one or two other people won't have the chance to get this set.

Dealer wrote:Which is why people shouldn't be buying more than one for themselves. It's unfair that some are buying two or three, just to keep those other ones in box. That just means one or two other people won't have the chance to get this set.

Unless you happen to own twenty Ultra Magnuses.

Dealer wrote:Which is why people shouldn't be buying more than one for themselves. It's unfair that some are buying two or three, just to keep those other ones in box. That just means one or two other people won't have the chance to get this set.

If people shouldn't be buying more than one, then BBTS would have limited the preorder quantities. But they're not, so it's OK.

I understand what you mean by people should just get one. I bought one...Then I took a couple of days and decided that an unopened one to be sold later on Ebay is a no brainer. People overseas need to be able to get their hands on this as well!

So I did purchase two. I never sell for profit, though I do sell at the current times market level. If that means profit SO BE IT.

necare wrote:I understand what you mean by people should just get one. I bought one...Then I took a couple of days and decided that an unopened one to be sold later on Ebay is a no brainer. People overseas need to be able to get their hands on this as well!

So I did purchase two. I never sell for profit, though I do sell at the current times market level. If that means profit SO BE IT.

Huh? That doesn't even make any sense... BBTS ships overseas for one, and two, what are you saying at the end? I mean, it makes enough sense without the "I never sell for profit" part, but it sounds pretty clear that's what you do and that's your intent here. And that's fine by me...I personally don't care, but I did find it odd.

Anyhow, I quit drinking so I'm gonna go grab a beer now. If that means I'm drinking again, SO BE IT.

necare wrote:I understand what you mean by people should just get one. I bought one...Then I took a couple of days and decided that an unopened one to be sold later on Ebay is a no brainer. People overseas need to be able to get their hands on this as well!

So I did purchase two. I never sell for profit, though I do sell at the current times market level. If that means profit SO BE IT.

i'm in the U.K., and i've got one on preorder from BBTS, cause they DO ship to europe!

Rule of Acquisition #37:

Always pretend you're doing someone a favour, when you're really ripping them off.

I have 3 on order, one to go with my sealed Magnus, one for my loose Magnus, and another in case it breaks, and if it don't, I'm keeping it in alt mode with my other Magnus.

To the people saying that it's wrong to buy more than 1 cause it takes away from other peoples chances. Alot of people are doing that for themselves, some are doing it to charge rape dollars on Ebay.

So me, I'm getting while the gettings good. This can easily turn into a BotCon Seeker fiasco with people selling a $350 collectors box for $900, and I'm looking to avoid that.

As for those saying these guys aren't true fans because of the price point!?!

You know, FU! These guys are a small company out of China trying to give us a good product with no real financial backing! I fully intend on supporting this as after the CliffJumper set and the MP Screamer set, I can tell you first hand that these guys are making the goods GOOD, and doing there best to deliver.

I have no doubt in my mind that with proper support these guys can grow into a larger company and keep bringing us add ons at an affordable rate much like ACT, and Impossible toys.

But yeah, way to bash a couple guys who're bringing so far quality merchandise, while trying to build capitol for other future products that will only make us happy.

Dam Them

i've got nothing against the guys that have made this, infact if it werre legal i'd probably marry them for doing this, i just cant understand why so many people need umpteen numbers of the same figure just so they can: display in either mode/keep 1 MIB!

ThunderThruster wrote:i've got nothing against the guys that have made this, infact if it werre legal i'd probably marry them for doing this, i just cant understand why so many people need umpteen numbers of the same figure just so they can: display in either mode/keep 1 MIB!

If a figures nice you may just wanna display it in both modes or have one for prosperity, why not showcase a collection, and make it the best you can?

-or-

For the same reason why old ladies need lots of cats, we're nutz

That said, I use the last statement of your argument to express why I realy don't like repaints, but thats a different topic.

Added one because I wanted to add one. Damn anyone telling anyone else what they can and can't do with their own money.

And you know what, I'll likely sell the damned thing too. See what you haters have made me do? Now I'm after some evil profit. Good God!! What'll happen next? Will I open a MISB Fortress Maximus for a custom project? I just might. Don't force my hand, people! I might deny some anal collector somewhere a MISB TOY.


There, that's out of my system. Time for a drink. White Russian and some GTA IV. That'll help.

Emperor Galvatron wrote:Added one because I wanted to add one. Damn anyone telling anyone else what they can and can't do with their own money.

And you know what, I'll likely sell the damned thing too. See what you haters have made me do? Now I'm after some evil profit. Good God!! What'll happen next? Will I open a MISB Fortress Maximus for a custom project? I just might. Don't force my hand, people! I might deny some anal collector somewhere a MISB TOY.


There, that's out of my system. Time for a drink. White Russian and some GTA IV. That'll help.

Don't feel bad, I've been stock piling 08 BBs since they're all over now. Also used the Hasbro discount codes to load up on that Animated crap.

Guess what I'm doing with all that stuff

Somethings I collect to collect, and it's not for sale, these sets for example, but then I realized, why not take advantage of the market the way it's been taking advantage of me?

Tekka wrote:

Dealer wrote:Which is why people shouldn't be buying more than one for themselves. It's unfair that some are buying two or three, just to keep those other ones in box. That just means one or two other people won't have the chance to get this set.

Unless you happen to own twenty Ultra Magnuses.

holy crap

see i dont do the MISB crap, when i get a TF it comes outta the box/packaging, transformered a couple dozen times, and then set to the purpose of why i bought it; because i like the figure, or cause it gonna be kitbashed into someone else!

As someone's who has done a fair bit of kitbashing over the years (and if you haven't seen my stuff well that's your problem) I know how much time kitbashing can take.

Now something like this, this is "scratch built". This is designed from the ground up. The design process alone would take an exceptional amount of time. Not to mention the time spent sorting out "bugs" and tweaking it to work as best as it can.

This is a complex kit. We should be grateful these guys are producing these in the limited numbers that they are given how much time and effort they would have invested into this project.

Liege Evilmus wrote:

Emperor Galvatron wrote:Added one because I wanted to add one. Damn anyone telling anyone else what they can and can't do with their own money.

And you know what, I'll likely sell the damned thing too. See what you haters have made me do? Now I'm after some evil profit. Good God!! What'll happen next? Will I open a MISB Fortress Maximus for a custom project? I just might. Don't force my hand, people! I might deny some anal collector somewhere a MISB TOY.


There, that's out of my system. Time for a drink. White Russian and some GTA IV. That'll help.

Don't feel bad, I've been stock piling 08 BBs since they're all over now. Also used the Hasbro discount codes to load up on that Animated crap.

Guess what I'm doing with all that stuff

Somethings I collect to collect, and it's not for sale, these sets for example, but then I realized, why not take advantage of the market the way it's been taking advantage of me?

Very much agree...
I've ordered 3; one to open, to to keep MISB, and one to sell.

I started collected right as the Classics weren't being found in stores any more,
and because I enjoy them so much, I wanted 2 of each.
Guess how much this has cost me????
I don't even know for sure, and I don't think I want to.
But 2 Soundwaves and 2 Megatrons (voyagers)
were somewhere around $180-$185.
To get 2 Magnus/Skywarp 2 packs was a total of $72.
I also know I spent over $40 to get 2 Bumblebees.

Those alone are getting close to what I would've spent to get 2 of the figures I have if I could've bought them at retail.
*I hadn't started collecting while they were in stores,
BECAUSE I didn't even know about them at that time.
It wasn't a situation where I had seen them and said, "Nahh, maybe later".

So me selling 1 C.C.S. will only make up for a small fraction of what I've had to dish out to get my Classics.
And I don't even have a Rodimus or Jetfire yet.

I'm actually surprised they still have them up for pre-order, especially Collector's grade. Figured they would have sold out by now. Oh well, I got my 2 pre-ordered