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Sabrblade wrote:Well, had Animated gone into its fourth season, there would have been a Shattered Glass-themed episode with Bulkhead and Sari winding up in the SG Animated universe. We probably would have seen these people in said episode:Rated X wrote:Wow you guys are digging a little too deep into the whole Shattered Glass concept. I hope some guy from Funpub isnt reading these posts and saying give em more repaints because they cant get enough of them on the forums. I have a couple KO shattered glass figures that I use as "Cybertronian Decpeticons". I dont really like the SG concept because it just seems too "comic bookish" to be used on the big screen or a TV mini-series.![]()
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And the the whole concept seems to have originated with the Mirror Universe of Star Trek (a TV series).
Rated X wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Well, had Animated gone into its fourth season, there would have been a Shattered Glass-themed episode with Bulkhead and Sari winding up in the SG Animated universe. We probably would have seen these people in said episode:Rated X wrote:Wow you guys are digging a little too deep into the whole Shattered Glass concept. I hope some guy from Funpub isnt reading these posts and saying give em more repaints because they cant get enough of them on the forums. I have a couple KO shattered glass figures that I use as "Cybertronian Decpeticons". I dont really like the SG concept because it just seems too "comic bookish" to be used on the big screen or a TV mini-series.![]()
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And the the whole concept seems to have originated with the Mirror Universe of Star Trek (a TV series).
That’s a valid point. Although I have never been a star trek fan, Ill trust you on that one. As far as shattered glass being featured on the cancelled season of animated, I see no problem with one episode. I mean what didn’t they do in the G1 series in one episode ??? Turn Prime into a gator, send Galvatron to therapy, make Powerglide fall in love, Have Astrotrain as a sky god, put Spikes mind in a robot, etc. Plenty of one time off the wall ideas for 22 minute episodes. But a whole series or a big screen film based on shattered glass ??? I don’t think so. I don’t think Michael Bay would touch a convention inspired continuity that deviates so much from what the average fair weather fan knows about Transformers. Same goes for a TV series that draws off of what kids already know and love. Optimus the hero. Bumblebee the sidekick. Megatron the villain. Starscream the coward. Some things don’t change even after 25 years.
No lets put Transformers aside for a second and imagine if the shattered glass concept had been applied to Star Wars or GI Joe.
Heroic Darth Vader dressed in all white with his evil son Luke Skywalker who wears black.
Evil Duke wearing dark blue against his arch enemy Heroic Cobra Commander dressed in camouflage Army fatigues.
Sounds pretty stupid right ???
(I hope you said yes and I will assume you did)
So if that was stupid, how does the cool factor come into play when the concept is used on Transformers ??? Is it because they are robots and not humans ???
I dunno, so maybe you can tell me in your honest opinion why Botcon fans go gaga for shattered glass ???
Enlighten me…
The thing is, it works as it does now becuase it's in comic form. Yes, a full blown TV series wouldn't work, but why should that matter? Are you implying that the TV shows and movies are some greater medium that hold a higher regard over any other medium (like comics, novels, games, etc.)? It almost sounds like your trying to discredit TF comics as though they don't bear any importance.Rated X wrote:But a whole series or a big screen film based on shattered glass ??? I don’t think so. I don’t think Michael Bay would touch a convention inspired continuity that deviates so much from what the average fair weather fan knows about Transformers. Same goes for a TV series that draws off of what kids already know and love. Optimus the hero. Bumblebee the sidekick. Megatron the villain. Starscream the coward. Some things don’t change even after 25 years.
No lets put Transformers aside for a second and imagine if the shattered glass concept had been applied to Star Wars or GI Joe.
Heroic Darth Vader dressed in all white with his evil son Luke Skywalker who wears black.
Evil Duke wearing dark blue against his arch enemy Heroic Cobra Commander dressed in camouflage Army fatigues.
Sounds pretty stupid right ???
(I hope you said yes and I will assume you did)
So if that was stupid, how does the cool factor come into play when the concept is used on Transformers ??? Is it because they are robots and not humans ???
I dunno, so maybe you can tell me in your honest opinion why Botcon fans go gaga for shattered glass ???
Enlighten me…
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote: On a relate note, the SG Transformers never knew of Primus until Classics Cliffjumper told them about him, in which Primus was described to them as a benevolent creator.
F Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote: On a relate note, the SG Transformers never knew of Primus until Classics Cliffjumper told them about him, in which Primus was described to them as a benevolent creator.
I know Primus is multiversal and all, but I am missing why this is worth noting. Wouldn't Cliffjumper describe Primus as benevolent even if there was a badass SG Primus out there? Cliffjumper is describing beings as he knows them, from his slice of the multiverse....he would probably also describe any number of Autobots as benevolent even though they were not in SG.
But as I stated earlier, I may be missing the point of this "note".
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:F Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote: On a relate note, the SG Transformers never knew of Primus until Classics Cliffjumper told them about him, in which Primus was described to them as a benevolent creator.
I know Primus is multiversal and all, but I am missing why this is worth noting. Wouldn't Cliffjumper describe Primus as benevolent even if there was a badass SG Primus out there? Cliffjumper is describing beings as he knows them, from his slice of the multiverse....he would probably also describe any number of Autobots as benevolent even though they were not in SG.
But as I stated earlier, I may be missing the point of this "note".
Maybe this will shed some light: Nexus Maximus Prime reformated the dead SG Megatron into SG Galvatron with a fragment of Primus' power. This mirrors G1 Galvatron's creation by Unicron.
The point I was getting at is that Primus is good and Unicron is evil even in the Shatteredverse.F Prime wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:F Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote: On a relate note, the SG Transformers never knew of Primus until Classics Cliffjumper told them about him, in which Primus was described to them as a benevolent creator.
I know Primus is multiversal and all, but I am missing why this is worth noting. Wouldn't Cliffjumper describe Primus as benevolent even if there was a badass SG Primus out there? Cliffjumper is describing beings as he knows them, from his slice of the multiverse....he would probably also describe any number of Autobots as benevolent even though they were not in SG.
But as I stated earlier, I may be missing the point of this "note".
Maybe this will shed some light: Nexus Maximus Prime reformated the dead SG Megatron into SG Galvatron with a fragment of Primus' power. This mirrors G1 Galvatron's creation by Unicron.
I didn't know/had forgotten that. Thanks for the reminder!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:The point I was getting at is that Primus is good and Unicron is evil even in the Shatteredverse.F Prime wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:F Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote: On a relate note, the SG Transformers never knew of Primus until Classics Cliffjumper told them about him, in which Primus was described to them as a benevolent creator.
I know Primus is multiversal and all, but I am missing why this is worth noting. Wouldn't Cliffjumper describe Primus as benevolent even if there was a badass SG Primus out there? Cliffjumper is describing beings as he knows them, from his slice of the multiverse....he would probably also describe any number of Autobots as benevolent even though they were not in SG.
But as I stated earlier, I may be missing the point of this "note".
Maybe this will shed some light: Nexus Maximus Prime reformated the dead SG Megatron into SG Galvatron with a fragment of Primus' power. This mirrors G1 Galvatron's creation by Unicron.
I didn't know/had forgotten that. Thanks for the reminder!
Prime Evil wrote: I also like the fact that I won't have to worry about Hasbro making any SG figures and putting them to retail. Most people complain about their toys being exclusive, guess what, these are EXCLUSIVES that won't be seen in the mainline.
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