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Offhand the only non-jetmode Autobots I can think of (certainly early on) who can actually fly are Sideswipe (with his rocket pack), Wheeljack (who has solid-fuel boosters in his arms) and Tracks (in his modified vehicle mode).
I think according to the Dreamwave profiles, most jet mode TFs can also fly in robot mode (I think one or two of the Aerialbots can't).
Most of the Decepticons can fly, because those that couldn't do it naturally have been specially modified by Megatron and his techs to boost their powers.

Well, if you throw any transformer hard enough it'll fly....

(not that I've tried the fact that I only have 4 TFs might be one reason...)

As stated they either fly when they like/ the story need them to either by the use of jetpacks or the "super-man" ability or they have an alt mode which enables them to.

Its like the episodes where the bots/cons can and can't shoot when in vehicle mode (all of them, not just the tanks and planes). in some episodes they can, in others when in vehicle mode the cars and trucks are completly useless helpless.

Ya I think so.They can fly Optimus can in Beast wars and Cybertron.

AUTOBOT HELPER wrote:Ya I think so.They can fly Optimus can in Beast wars and Cybertron.

Beast Wars Optimus wasn't an Autobot.
Besides, we're talking about G1 continuity.

Well the one that immediately comes to mind is Jetfire.
And Optimus turns into a flying fire truck in the TF: Cybertron series (which I think is pretty stupid, but whatever). He's still cool.
Anyway bottom line, Autobots can fly.

Siren Prime wrote:Well the one that immediately comes to mind is Jetfire.
And Optimus turns into a flying ************ in the TF: Cybertron series (which I think is pretty stupid, but whatever). He's still cool.
Anyway bottom line, Autobots can fly.

Again, G1 continuity.
Just because one can it doesn't mean the others can.

Justicity wrote:

AUTOBOT HELPER wrote:Ya I think so.They can fly Optimus can in Beast wars and Cybertron.

Beast Wars Optimus wasn't an Autobot.
Besides, we're talking about G1 continuity.

That made me laugh, I can't figure out why.



Also, firetruck firetruck firetruck **** firetruck


EDIT:- Istn't it funny how it bleeps fire-truck, but not bastard, dick or ****?


I thought so.

What the hell, it bleeps firetruck.

Thats odd.

EDIT: Holy crap it actually did bleep it.

Why the heck would it bleep that?
Anyway I just meant that Autobots CAN fly, it just depends wether they have a flying altmode or not.

did you mean the word firetruck

edit: i feel your amazement! this is fun
firetruck! your a firetruck!

Yes I am a firetruck!!!

no! i am a firetruck

Shut up ya friggin firetruck.

Here is my theory.

When the transformers were first created none of them had the ability to fly. At some point in TF history an anti gravity chip was invented. However, the chip was made of advanced Cybertronian technology causing the price of these chips to remain out of the price range of most robots.

Megatron decided to invest his energon credits in these anti gravity chips for his war driven army.

The autobots could not afford a bulk amount of anti gravity chips because a number of reasons. One reason was because they would donate their energon chips to supposed "non profit Cybertronian special interest groups". A few other reasons was smokescreen blowing Autobot funds at Casinos and Arcee stealing the Autobots credit card to buy new paint jobs and other robot cosmetics.

Great theory...

firetruck

CRAP!

To be fair. Everyone should be able to fly. At least, just low altitude short distances.

As far as the script goes no Autobots can't fly. There are several episodes that make mention to how the Decepticons started out as "a new type of flying robot" or just mentioned that they could all fly. Autobots only have a small group of flyers the first of them being Skyfire or Jetfire depending on weather you wanna go by his cartoon or comic book name.

As far as the action of the series Autobots CAN in fact fly.

This was a constant mistake that was being done durring the entire series where they keep talking about how Autobots can't fly yet they constantly show them flying anyway. There was even an episode that went as far to have Optimus Prime fly to a battle feild and then ask for a jet pack 5 sec. after landing there.

"Um you just flew to get here, what the **** do you need a jet pack for?"

This is just one of the many things about G1 that make me not really like that series. I mean I like Transformers and G1 does get some major credit for kick starting the franchise but really it's not even that good with all the plot holes the size of Texas in it.

Saber Prime wrote:As far as the script goes no Autobots can't fly. There are several episodes that make mention to how the Decepticons started out as "a new type of flying robot" or just mentioned that they could all fly. Autobots only have a small group of flyers the first of them being Skyfire or Jetfire depending on weather you wanna go by his cartoon or comic book name.

As far as the action of the series Autobots CAN in fact fly.

This was a constant mistake that was being done durring the entire series where they keep talking about how Autobots can't fly yet they constantly show them flying anyway. There was even an episode that went as far to have Optimus Prime fly to a battle feild and then ask for a jet pack 5 sec. after landing there.

"Um you just flew to get here, what the **** do you need a jet pack for?"

This is just one of the many things about G1 that make me not really like that series. I mean I like Transformers and G1 does get some major credit for kick starting the franchise but really it's not even that good with all the plot holes the size of Texas in it.

They were not flying. They're just jumping really really high.

Taking cue from Incredible Hulk!

Auto Bot wrote:

Saber Prime wrote:As far as the script goes no Autobots can't fly. There are several episodes that make mention to how the Decepticons started out as "a new type of flying robot" or just mentioned that they could all fly. Autobots only have a small group of flyers the first of them being Skyfire or Jetfire depending on weather you wanna go by his cartoon or comic book name.

As far as the action of the series Autobots CAN in fact fly.

This was a constant mistake that was being done durring the entire series where they keep talking about how Autobots can't fly yet they constantly show them flying anyway. There was even an episode that went as far to have Optimus Prime fly to a battle feild and then ask for a jet pack 5 sec. after landing there.

"Um you just flew to get here, what the **** do you need a jet pack for?"

This is just one of the many things about G1 that make me not really like that series. I mean I like Transformers and G1 does get some major credit for kick starting the franchise but really it's not even that good with all the plot holes the size of Texas in it.

They were not flying. They're just jumping really really high.

Taking cue from Incredible Hulk!

Not even that. They were "falling with style"!

JazZeke wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:

Saber Prime wrote:As far as the script goes no Autobots can't fly. There are several episodes that make mention to how the Decepticons started out as "a new type of flying robot" or just mentioned that they could all fly. Autobots only have a small group of flyers the first of them being Skyfire or Jetfire depending on weather you wanna go by his cartoon or comic book name.

As far as the action of the series Autobots CAN in fact fly.

This was a constant mistake that was being done durring the entire series where they keep talking about how Autobots can't fly yet they constantly show them flying anyway. There was even an episode that went as far to have Optimus Prime fly to a battle feild and then ask for a jet pack 5 sec. after landing there.

"Um you just flew to get here, what the **** do you need a jet pack for?"

This is just one of the many things about G1 that make me not really like that series. I mean I like Transformers and G1 does get some major credit for kick starting the franchise but really it's not even that good with all the plot holes the size of Texas in it.

They were not flying. They're just jumping really really high.

Taking cue from Incredible Hulk!

Not even that. They were "falling with style"!

Nope definatly flying. They look exactly like the Decepticons who fly in robot mode not at all like Hulk's super jump or Buzz Lightyear's falling with styal.

Saber Prime wrote:

JazZeke wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:

Saber Prime wrote:As far as the script goes no Autobots can't fly. There are several episodes that make mention to how the Decepticons started out as "a new type of flying robot" or just mentioned that they could all fly. Autobots only have a small group of flyers the first of them being Skyfire or Jetfire depending on weather you wanna go by his cartoon or comic book name.

As far as the action of the series Autobots CAN in fact fly.

This was a constant mistake that was being done durring the entire series where they keep talking about how Autobots can't fly yet they constantly show them flying anyway. There was even an episode that went as far to have Optimus Prime fly to a battle feild and then ask for a jet pack 5 sec. after landing there.

"Um you just flew to get here, what the **** do you need a jet pack for?"

This is just one of the many things about G1 that make me not really like that series. I mean I like Transformers and G1 does get some major credit for kick starting the franchise but really it's not even that good with all the plot holes the size of Texas in it.

They were not flying. They're just jumping really really high.

Taking cue from Incredible Hulk!

Not even that. They were "falling with style"!

Nope definatly flying. They look exactly like the Decepticons who fly in robot mode not at all like Hulk's super jump or Buzz Lightyear's falling with styal.

Flying Chicken Run style?

People always consider it a plot hole, but it was established in one episode why the Autobots stopped flying.

Can't remember what episode, but one time one of the minibots I believe(probably Cliffjumper) got pissed off and tried to fly after the Decepticons, only to end up being tricked by Skywarp or something. They told them they couldn't fly as fast as the Decepticons so he shouldn't go after him.

So there you go. The Autobots can fly, they're just rubbish at it, so after a while, they didn't bother. The Decepticons are built for flight, and the Seekers are even faster, possibly several times so(than the autobots) in Jet mode.

As for the comics I don't believe they flew. TFs flying was established as early as Diaclone though, if you look at the old adverts.

Spark Light wrote:People always consider it a plot hole, but it was established in one episode why the Autobots stopped flying.

Can't remember what episode, but one time one of the minibots I believe(probably Cliffjumper) got pissed off and tried to fly after the Decepticons, only to end up being tricked by Skywarp or something. They told them they couldn't fly as fast as the Decepticons so he shouldn't go after him.

So there you go. The Autobots can fly, they're just rubbish at it, so after a while, they didn't bother. The Decepticons are built for flight, and the Seekers are even faster, possibly several times so(than the autobots) in Jet mode.

As for the comics I don't believe they flew. TFs flying was established as early as Diaclone though, if you look at the old adverts.

I think you got some of your info mixed up....the closest thing to that was when Ironhide went after the Decept's with Bluestreaks help[no minibots] and when he was brought down [by Skywarp] it was Optimus who said there to fast for us in the sky.
As I said earlyer....The autobots can fly but have no spead in the air.

im 5 discs into the transformers 17 disc collection and ive seen autobots fly on occassion and on other occassions use jetpacks one example of this is the episode "dinobot island" all autobots except for powerglide use jetpacks