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News Credits: 33 · by **Genocide G2.0** » Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:16 pm

by **Rated X** » Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:45 pm

I dont get why the new head isnt blue. I wouldnt mind having the axe if it was scaled for orion or voyager prime.

News Credits: 372 · by **Cyberpath** » Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:53 pm

I kind of want one to be honest. But I don't have the figure itself and it's too late to get one for a normal price. (Likewise Henkei and RM Prime.)

But yeah, what's up with the colours?

btw, someone replaced the Deluxe's head with a Bot Shots one and it looks pretty good:
http://www.cybertron.ca/boards/showpost ... tcount=184

by **Yotsuyasan** » Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:07 pm

Re: The colours. Reading a news story about this over at TFormers.com, it seems the colours in these photos are prototypes and not final. I would expect the final versions would be more traditional blue for the head, and black for the gun.

Even as one of the few who doesn't completely hate this mold, I'm not sure what I feel about this upgrate kit. It doesn't seem that necessary. The matrix seems pointless if it doesn't have a chamber in his chest to hold it. I didn't think there was much wrong with his original head sculpt, except for how tough it can be to pry it out from his vehicle mode. (Maybe this new head is easier for that?)

I suppose the new gun is more G1, and the axe could be nice... But even without hating the mold, I'll admit it is far from the best G1 Prime mold. If this set maybe addressed some issues with the mold and made them better, could be worth it. But just adding slightly better accessories is like putting lipstick on a pig, and doesn't seem worth it.

Cyberpath wrote:btw, someone replaced the Deluxe's head with a Bot Shots one and it looks pretty good:
http://www.cybertron.ca/boards/showpost ... tcount=184

Forget the head, looks like whoever did that somehow also rebuilt the legs to be collapsible for vehicle mode. Now that is an example of an improvement that this figure could use!

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:26 pm

Not bad, not bad. But since it's just some accessories and a new head it seems kind of pointless if there are more catering to Prime figures like this one. I will give the makers brownie points for matching the Robot Masters figure, which some fans seem to liken the Deluxe one to:

by **necr0blivion** » Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:20 pm

This is kind of interesting. Weapons and new heads in one set for a figure that doesn't normally receive praise. Mostly because of the funky alt mode. Maybe I should break out that OP figure and mess around with it a bit before making an order, because currently he has no place on my displays.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:21 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Not bad, not bad. But since it's just some accessories and a new head it seems kind of pointless if there are more catering to Prime figures like this one. I will give the makers brownie points for matching the Robot Masters figure, which some fans seem to liken the Deluxe one to.

i get you. but i was never a big fan of the RM convoy. he seemed to wide in the hips... in fact the whole legs/hips thing was just odd. everything else was slick though, and you cant beat a prime who comes with an energy axe.

i think ill bite on this set (pending on final colors). he would have to match united prime. and id cross my fingers that the energy axe could fix classics voyager prime.

News Credits: 372 · by **Cyberpath** » Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:22 pm

Yotsuyasan wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:btw, someone replaced the Deluxe's head with a Bot Shots one and it looks pretty good:
http://www.cybertron.ca/boards/showpost ... tcount=184

Forget the head, looks like whoever did that somehow also rebuilt the legs to be collapsible for vehicle mode. Now that is an example of an improvement that this figure could use!

This guy took it further: http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/radicons- ... prime.html

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:52 pm

This comes across as kinda pointless. The figure is long sold out and frankly not even worth the original price.
It needs more than just a new head, a gun, an axe and a Matrix to actually help the figure in any way. But I have to admit, the sculpting on this is great, I particularly like the head, and the gun. Those two pieces are sharp!

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:29 pm

Meele Ax does look a bit small. Loved how the MP-10 Ax was bigger than the MP-01 Ax.

News Credits: 5 · by **alexison** » Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:26 pm

There's no hope for that mold.

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:10 pm

Doctor McGrath wrote:There's no hope for that mold.

True. But I would still consider it, if only because I have the clear Sons of Cybertron set, and that Optimus is just sitting there.

If one of the heads matched the clear blue, I'd consider it. Maybe then it would bring up a crap figure to a forgettable one.

>:oP

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:28 pm

Doctor McGrath wrote:There's no hope for that mold.

This.

But the head IS a distinct improvement. Too bad the base figure is simply not worth the effort to get.

News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Sun Apr 20, 2014 5:29 am

I actually really like the bot mode on this Op. Much more than the Classics Voyager. Its just that as a Deluxe he's a bit too small for my Classics collection. He's got plenty of good articulation and all the important design cues are there without him being kibble-tastic or oddly proportioned. The alt mode is pretty pants though.

This lit looks okay but I'm not bothered about upgrading this bot anyway so I'll pass. Now, if it had been a trailer and Powermaster armour, then I might have been on board. A PM Prime upgrade to the Deluxe would bring him up to around the same height as Energon Scorponok and that could be very interesting...

News Credits: 33 · by **Genocide G2.0** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:11 am

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:25 am

Looks pretty good! I question why Sons of Cybertron clear OP gets the shaft with that grey head (why not clear matching plastic??), but overall I'm happy with the value for $20.

Looking forward to adding an otherwise obsolete mold to my eventual Prime display.

News Credits: 1 · by **rpetras** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:16 pm

Its a nice shade of lipstick for that pig.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:25 pm

im actually more inclined to buy that, for the chance that it might fit on the classics voyager prime. not the head, but the axe and matrix? theyd be nice additions.

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:12 pm

shajaki wrote:im actually more inclined to buy that, for the chance that it might fit on the classics voyager prime. not the head, but the axe and matrix? theyd be nice additions.

I quite agree. I'm also wondering if that gun would look alright with the Voyager mold...

[Edit] I had meant to comment on this too:

rpetras wrote:Its a nice shade of lipstick for that pig.

I agree that the Deluxe Prime mold is awful. The bot mode is passable. The one thing he has going for him is that he is the perfect height to sit on that toilet Transformer, Shortround, from a few years ago...

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:22 pm

Agamemnon wrote:
shajaki wrote:im actually more inclined to buy that, for the chance that it might fit on the classics voyager prime. not the head, but the axe and matrix? theyd be nice additions.

I quite agree. I'm also wondering if that gun would look alright with the Voyager mold...

If a gun is all you're looking for, may I recommend the ArtTek Hero Rifle?

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:42 pm

The ArtTek looks alright, but there is just something about it that didn't look good to me. I'm not sure what exactly.

The one I wanted was the one on the back of the FoC Voyager Soundwave box.

News Credits: 3 · by **Midnight_Fox** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:55 pm

Agamemnon wrote:The one I wanted was the one on the back of the FoC Voyager Soundwave box.

That's just a G1 OP gun.

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:59 pm

Midnight_Fox wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:The one I wanted was the one on the back of the FoC Voyager Soundwave box.

That's just a G1 OP gun.

Oh, was it? I'll have to see if I can find my G2 or anniversary Prime and see if it will look okay.

Thanks! ( I wonder why Hasbro decided to take the pic that way...)

News Credits: 1 · by **rpetras** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:34 pm

Agamemnon wrote:
Midnight_Fox wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:The one I wanted was the one on the back of the FoC Voyager Soundwave box.

That's just a G1 OP gun.

Oh, was it? I'll have to see if I can find my G2 or anniversary Prime and see if it will look okay.

Thanks! ( I wonder why Hasbro decided to take the pic that way...)

If that is all you need, you should be able to find a G1 prime gun on ebay for around ten bucks:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Optimus-Prime-Gun-Laser-Rifle-Vintage-Hasbro-G1-Transformers-1985-/261497812641?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item3ce27bf6a1