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Echoes of the Past Tournie Discussion Thread

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Re: Echoes of the Past Tournie Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:19 pm

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Evolution Prime wrote:Its hard for me since I'm at work from 7:00 am to 4:30 pm and can't have MSN IM here. So I don't have much for communication for most of my playing time.

Have you added a chat box to the AWC maybe? some run on java so it is close to real time and anyone on site can post in it. That doesn't need a messenger and if it slows just refresh the page.


You mean the AWC Forum that's not suppose to exist under the "no off-site forums" rule? :P (Not that I particularly care)

Frankly though if players are going to participate and can't communicate then the strategy is simple. You drop the best you have in whenever you can.

IF Autobot Commanders are taking a look at the missions screen and seeing the 'Con side full and walking away, well not much can be said there really. Okay if you can't communicate you may not know who's around. But why not dive in anyway? This is more about having fun than bragging rights anyway so just jump in, enjoy the madness and who knows, your leap may attact others to leap in after you (something i've been saying for years)
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Re: Echoes of the Past Tournie Discussion Thread

Postby -Soundwave- » Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:31 pm

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Indeed true, but then its easier to collaborate over a chat. I know there are what IRC ? Rooms and what not that would basically give IM experience for it, but even then that would be called off site, any other idea that would help give that same speed to it?
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Re: Echoes of the Past Tournie Discussion Thread

Postby Tammuz » Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:33 pm

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What I was talking about when there are missions available, which seem to be few and far between for me and others,


Sunday, red did ask, in this very thread, wether or not he should include missions ending in 5, the cons responded, the preds responded, the good guys? nope none of them said they wanted mission more often(none of them even responded, so red didn't make the change despite wanting too.
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Re: Echoes of the Past Tournie Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:45 pm

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I vote the next tournament be completely run by the "good" guys and "good" guys only.

Us "bad" guys deserve a break.
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Re: Echoes of the Past Tournie Discussion Thread

Postby Evolution Prime » Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:47 pm

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Tammuz wrote:
Evolution Prime wrote:
What I was talking about when there are missions available, which seem to be few and far between for me and others,


Sunday, red did ask, in this very thread, wether or not he should include missions ending in 5, the cons responded, the preds responded, the good guys? nope none of them said they wanted mission more often(none of them even responded, so red didn't make the change despite wanting too.


Well I wasn't on on Sunday. I was the posts but thought the decision had already been made to keep the current setup. I not complaining about it. Probably wouldn't have had an affect on the outcome anyways. I am just happy to be playing again.
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Re: Echoes of the Past Tournie Discussion Thread

Postby Tammuz » Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:52 pm

Burn wrote:I vote the next tournament be completely run by the "good" guys and "good" guys only.

Us "bad" guys deserve a break.


well that scres up Psych's weed inspired plan.
and it really was one of those communing with the gods, good
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Re: Echoes of the Past Tournie Discussion Thread

Postby Psychout » Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:01 pm

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Tammuz wrote:
Burn wrote:I vote the next tournament be completely run by the "good" guys and "good" guys only.

Us "bad" guys deserve a break.


well that scres up Psych's weed inspired plan.
and it really was one of those communing with the gods, good

Dont worry, its nearly ready now. ;)

Just gotta commune with the gods for a bit longer to be sure it all fits together.

Anyone here like chess btw?
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Re: Echoes of the Past Tournie Discussion Thread

Postby High Command » Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:09 pm

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Psychout wrote:
Tammuz wrote:
Burn wrote:I vote the next tournament be completely run by the "good" guys and "good" guys only.

Us "bad" guys deserve a break.


well that scres up Psych's weed inspired plan.
and it really was one of those communing with the gods, good

Dont worry, its nearly ready now. ;)

Just gotta commune with the gods for a bit longer to be sure it all fits together.

Anyone here like chess btw?


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Re: Echoes of the Past Tournie Discussion Thread

Postby Psychout » Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:22 pm

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Go check out the welcome forum in the RDD then please HC, I need a proofreader who thinks like a chess player.

I was so supposed to be in bed 3 hours ago, but what the hell, its friday tomorrow...
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Re: Echoes of the Past Tournie Discussion Thread

Postby High Command » Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:26 pm

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Psychout wrote:Go check out the welcome forum in the RDD then please HC, I need a proofreader who thinks like a chess player.

I was so supposed to be in bed 3 hours ago, but what the hell, its friday tomorrow...


I'll take a looksie tomorrow when I'm more awake and less drunken.
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Re: Echoes of the Past Tournie Discussion Thread

Postby Tifereth » Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:58 pm

High Command wrote:
Psychout wrote:Go check out the welcome forum in the RDD then please HC, I need a proofreader who thinks like a chess player.

I was so supposed to be in bed 3 hours ago, but what the hell, its friday tomorrow...


I'll take a looksie tomorrow when I'm more awake and less drunken.


If u wanna be awake just focus on ur sig ;)
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Re: Echoes of the Past Tournie Discussion Thread

Postby High Command » Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:21 pm

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Tifereth wrote:
High Command wrote:
Psychout wrote:Go check out the welcome forum in the RDD then please HC, I need a proofreader who thinks like a chess player.

I was so supposed to be in bed 3 hours ago, but what the hell, its friday tomorrow...


I'll take a looksie tomorrow when I'm more awake and less drunken.


If u wanna be awake just focus on ur sig ;)


I don't see a bad side to doing that.
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Re: Echoes of the Past Tournie Discussion Thread

Postby Animus » Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:16 pm

High Command wrote:
Tifereth wrote:
High Command wrote:I'll take a looksie tomorrow when I'm more awake and less drunken.


If u wanna be awake just focus on ur sig ;)


I don't see a bad side to doing that.


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Re: Echoes of the Past Tournie Discussion Thread

Postby Bun-Bun » Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:09 am

Gah!
I'm so very far behind. :-(

Maximals 25th kill goes to Phasewing.
Victim: JP

Just realized I promised to keep track of a Maxi and Pred kills

Maxi Kills

Blastquake: 1
Kaijubot: 2
Rolltide: 5
Poit123: 3
Windracer: 1
Cheetron: 2
Sprokitz: 1
Doomseeker: 2
Talous: 4
Razor One: 1
DemonWolf: 1
Caelus: 1
Phasewing: 1
(Accurate till mission # 88890)

Pred Kills

Bun-Bun: 6
SS14: 20
Carnosaur: 4
General Lysis: 7
Predac0n Megatron: 1
Omega Charge: 4
Black Eyes: 10
MasterCroc: 1
Colonel Brawl: 1
Lord Straxus: 1
(accurate to mission #88930)


Piez to come when I catch up....
or right before I need to go do my RL job... whichever comes first
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Re: Echoes of the Past Tournie Discussion Thread

Postby Jeep? » Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:39 am

Bun-Bun wrote:Just realized I promised to keep track of a Maxi and Pred kills

Maxi Kills

Blastquake: 1
Kaijubot: 2
Rolltide: 5
Poit123: 3
Windracer: 1
Cheetron: 2
Sprokitz: 1
Doomseeker: 2
Talous: 4
Razor One: 1
DemonWolf: 1
Caelus: 1
Phasewing: 1
(Accurate till mission # 88890)

Pred Kills

Bun-Bun: 6
SS14: 20
Carnosaur: 4
General Lysis: 7
Predac0n Megatron: 1
Omega Charge: 4
Black Eyes: 10
MasterCroc: 1
Colonel Brawl: 1
Lord Straxus: 1
(accurate to mission #88930)


So I have more kills than the entirety of both beast factions combined?
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Re: Echoes of the Past Tournie Discussion Thread

Postby Animus » Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:02 am

Jeep! wrote:
Bun-Bun wrote:Just realized I promised to keep track of a Maxi and Pred kills

Maxi Kills

Blastquake: 1
Kaijubot: 2
Rolltide: 5
Poit123: 3
Windracer: 1
Cheetron: 2
Sprokitz: 1
Doomseeker: 2
Talous: 4
Razor One: 1
DemonWolf: 1
Caelus: 1
Phasewing: 1
(Accurate till mission # 88890)

Pred Kills

Bun-Bun: 6
SS14: 20
Carnosaur: 4
General Lysis: 7
Predac0n Megatron: 1
Omega Charge: 4
Black Eyes: 10
MasterCroc: 1
Colonel Brawl: 1
Lord Straxus: 1
(accurate to mission #88930)


So I have more kills than the entirety of both beast factions combined?


I have 2 kills. But I didn't post them in a thread because I couldn't figure out which ones count for the tourney. I posted one of them in the brag thread though.
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Re: Echoes of the Past Tournie Discussion Thread

Postby Bun-Bun » Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:25 am

Jebus Prime wrote:So I have more kills than the entirety of both beast factions combined?

You've also had more opportunity than us...
as off mission #89400 the Cons have been involved in 374 eligable mission, while the Preds have only had 78, Maximals 51
(these numbers do no include missions where only one side was present or missions where allied factions competed)

and incase you were wondering, the Bots come in first, being part of 401 elligable missions.
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Re: Echoes of the Past Tournie Discussion Thread

Postby Animus » Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:31 am

I meant which thread to post them in. I'm a bit confused about the tourney since I seem to have came back in the middle of it. Although Bun-Bun if it were up to me I'd be in the same shoes you're in. Because if I could switch myself over to a Predacon I would have already. 8)

Oh and when you get more time can you make up piecharts for the factions showing eligible missions vs. missions in which they claimed a kill/win. However this tourney seems to be scored. I'm going to lurk moar and find out. It never hurts to lurk moar.
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Re: Echoes of the Past Tournie Discussion Thread

Postby Bun-Bun » Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:43 am

I was actually replying to JP *edits post to show that

Animus wrote: Oh and when you get more time can you make up piecharts for the factions showing eligible missions vs. missions in which they claimed a kill/win.

You don't ask much do you :P

Don't worry, by the time this thing is over I'll have so many friggin pie chartz I could feed a small country for a year :lol:
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Re: Echoes of the Past Tournie Discussion Thread

Postby Bun-Bun » Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:57 am

Just a quick update before I leave for my 'lunch break' (having 'lunch' at 3:00 AM is frigin stupid :? )

Cons 800th kill goes to Daaron at the end of this mission

Sprokitz single-handedly gets kills 26-30 for the Maxis :APPLAUSE:

The Bots finally get their 500th kill
tenrak SLs one of Halos Cons @ 2:55

And as of mission # 89600
The Bots are averaging 1.24 kills per elligable mission
Cons: 2.21
Maxis: .57
Preds: .71
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Re: Echoes of the Past Tournie Discussion Thread

Postby Bun-Bun » Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:59 am

Well I'm as close to caught up as I'm going to get tonight (#90340 the 750th overall eligable mission)

1,500th eligable kill goes to waaaaghlord's Con @ 4:38 here...
Right before jazzrules' Bot makes him the 1,501st kill 10 seconds later.

By my unofficial estimate, the Cons just a bit less than twice as many mission wins as the Bots...
same with the Preds over the Maxis...

Average Kills per Mission:
Bots: 1.27
Cons: 2.22
Maxis: .49
Preds: .72

Bot Kill Chart:
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Maxis:
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Preds:
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All Kills:
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Usable v Unusable missions:
AvM, DvP = Allied factions fighting
Bots, Cons, Maxis, Preds = Only that faction joined mission
Unknowns = No factions joined mission
Retreat = one side retreated before a kill was made (still usable by tourney rules)
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Re: Echoes of the Past Tournie Discussion Thread

Postby Black Eyes » Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:06 am

Awesome stuff BB!!! :APPLAUSE:

So from the carts one can deduce that...

Con>Bot

Pred>Maxi

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Re: Echoes of the Past Tournie Discussion Thread

Postby Jeep? » Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:15 am

Bun-Bun wrote:I was actually replying to JP *edits post to show that

Animus wrote: Oh and when you get more time can you make up piecharts for the factions showing eligible missions vs. missions in which they claimed a kill/win.

You don't ask much do you :P

Don't worry, by the time this thing is over I'll have so many friggin pie chartz I could feed a small country for a year :lol:


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Re: Echoes of the Past Tournie Discussion Thread

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