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News Credits: 5749 · Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:32 am

According to ComingSoon.net DreamWorks President of Production Adam Goodman recently spoke to the The Hollywood Reporter about a couple of upcoming projects, one of which was TF4. When asked about the involvement of the previous trilogy's Shia LaBeouf he had this to say:

Ehren Kruger is writing it for us, and we're starting to engage, but I can't say anything more.

Kruger wrote Transformers: Dark of the Moon and collaborated with Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman on Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen.

News Credits: 462 · Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:53 am

Did they really need to bring him back as a writer? >:oP

News Credits: 668 · Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:00 am

Kruger doesn't bother me. I think he's a decent, and dare I say it, competent writer.
That quote is suspect, though. He was willing to let the cat out of the bag on Kruger, but stopped short of anything involving LaBeouf.

Part of me thinks they're not having him back, and if the public finds out, it could cost them with the audience. Part of me thinks they are having him back, and he's always been full of fecal matter, and he doesn't want them to let the cat out of the bag.

Either way, this is good news. Slightly odd and brow raising, but good news.

News Credits: 226 · Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:32 am

Autobot032 wrote:Kruger doesn't bother me. I think he's a decent, and dare I say it, competent writer.

ehhhh I dunno, DotM didn't quite sit right well with me. It's no secret that I dislike Orci & Kurtzman so I don't want them back, but i'd be happy if Kruger didn't come back either.

I guess it makes sense to keep the creative team together at least.

News Credits: 668 · Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:37 am

Burn wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:Kruger doesn't bother me. I think he's a decent, and dare I say it, competent writer.

ehhhh I dunno, DotM didn't quite sit right well with me. It's no secret that I dislike Orci & Kurtzman so I don't want them back, but i'd be happy if Kruger didn't come back either.

I guess it makes sense to keep the creative team together at least.

They fare better as producers. Hawaii Five-0 and Prime are....prime examples of that.

News Credits: 226 · Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:06 am

I swear, your comedy has gotten to the level of G1 Starscream since we put staff colours on you.

Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:43 am

I liked Dark of the Moon .. in concept.. which is what mostly what he created. Its just how it was presented that I didn't like at times.

I have no positive or negative feelings towards him being the writer (because hes shown that hes "decent") due to its going to be up to how its presented that makes it good or meh.
Hopefully Bay (or whomever is directing it )will come through and try to make a good movie and not just a summer action flick this time around.

Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:32 am

how to make horrible movies. part 4

Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:21 am

This is terrible news, The TF movies thusfar have been horribly written garbage.

They need to get someone who understands Transformers to actually write them and direct them.

They need to lose Bay and his writer cronies for good, it's the only way we'll ever get a decent movie.

Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:28 am

In related news, TF4 confirmed to suck. More at 11.

News Credits: 1 · Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:38 am

Fandom: Michael Bay, isn't this a stupid decision?

Michael Bay: I HAVE NO IDEA!
(Prepares to flip 'Maximum Trolling' switch on his lulz gun)

This development shows how little Hasbro/Michael Bay cares. They won't even bother trying to improve these films. Just so long as the formula works (and they get loads of cash), they aren't going to try and change it for the better. If it ain't broke, don't fix it is their philosophy.

Also, see my signature for what I think of Hasbro and Michael Bay pretty much all of the time now:

Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:56 am

Wait! They had writers in the last 3 movies???

Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:20 am

I really hope they spend a ton of money on TF4 just to have barely enough people show up to turn a profit (trying to be realistic). For once, people need to stop giving in and just wait to see it on DVD (or torrent for free), just to help change the boring formula of current mainstream movies.

News Credits: 22 · Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:35 am

He did a fairly good job with DotM, it was better than the 1st 2 films. As long as Orci and Kurtzman stay away, it's safe.

Just think, it could be worse. It could be Uwe Boll.

Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:27 am

I don't get all the hate for Orci and Kurtzman. I think Transformers Prime proves that they were not the problem.

Anyway, this is just another sign that we're in for more of the same crap with TF4. All I can say about that is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YxChiuA398

News Credits: 10 · Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:29 am

I just got home from seeing the Avengers. If they sack Ehren Kruger and Michael Bay right now and hire Joss Whedon that would be awesome. Going by what he just did, I think it would be something special.

Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:45 am

TheForgottenTaxi wrote:I don't get all the hate for Orci and Kurtzman. I think Transformers Prime proves that they were not the problem.

Agreed. They wrote the first movie which I absolutely loved. And we all know how awesome TF Prime is. I have zero problem with those two.

Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:05 pm

I've always viewed the Bay movies as a seperate TF continuity, and as such, I enjoyed them all. Yes, there were the obvious plotholes (especially in revenge), but when you look at them the way I do, they dont have to mirror past TF lore to be enjoyable...they're just another version of what we all love. I've also learned in the past 5 years not to try and argue their worth to die hard g1ers, LOL. It's all in what you like.

BTW...of course they are gonna get Kruger to write #4...Dark of the Moon made OVER A BILLION DOLLARS! Like or not, 85% of them are in it for the money, not to make us die-hards happy. It sucks, but its true.

Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:32 pm

I'm excited for another movie! However as I've said before I hope Shia does not come back. I'm curious to see if we get a new villain or if Unicron gets brought into the picture. I will miss the Big Four Decepticons, as I call them, since they are dead, especially Shockwave, because his character wasn't explored at all in DOTM. Other than that bring it on! :michaelbay:

News Credits: 8 · Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:18 pm

why cant they just get rid of everyone who was involved with the last 3 and let some new people take a stab at it? This franchise needs some new life and i dont think this is going to do it. I still say the entire franchise needs a reboot, forget bayformers forget TF Prime and start from scratch. We need another Beast Wars style reboot and fast.

News Credits: 5 · Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:04 pm

Well, I'm not happy and even less surprised, but would you really want a good writer to squeeze out the next stinker in this legacy of turd's?

News Credits: 4 · Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:16 pm

Trikeboy wrote:I just got home from seeing the Avengers. If they sack Ehren Kruger and Michael Bay right now and hire Joss Whedon that would be awesome. Going by what he just did, I think it would be something special.

Hah! This is kinda what I said on my Twitter the other day...

It's all about character in my opinion. I know it's difficult to juggle loads of personalities with both Cybertronian AND human sides. Whedon, as said, is AMAZING with multiple characters/ensembles. Thing is; Kruger isn't a bad writer and Bay is a good technical & action director...But when it boils down to character and how they are part of narrative, we need someone like Whedon.

And yes, that means treating both the Decepticons AND Autobots like characters and not like mindless drones! :lol:

Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:04 pm

I know this thing is being greenlit for making dosh but can we stop dragging TF's good name through puddles of **** mud? Call it something else, give it some cool lore than hasbro can sell TFs and "insert poopy bayformer robot title here".

It took me a year or so to finally watch dark side of the moon and I was ashamed to be a TF fan afterwards.

News Credits: 37 · Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:27 pm

synthetik wrote:I know this thing is being greenlit for making dosh but can we stop dragging TF's good name through puddles of **** mud? Call it something else, give it some cool lore than hasbro can sell TFs and "insert poopy bayformer robot title here".

It took me a year or so to finally watch dark side of the moon and I was ashamed to be a TF fan afterwards.

Oh well.

autobotOG wrote: Yes, there were the obvious plotholes (especially in revenge)

No there weren't.

News Credits: 226 · Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:52 pm

Bleak5170 wrote:
TheForgottenTaxi wrote:I don't get all the hate for Orci and Kurtzman. I think Transformers Prime proves that they were not the problem.

Agreed. They wrote the first movie which I absolutely loved. And we all know how awesome TF Prime is. I have zero problem with those two.

They're not writing TF Prime though. They're simply only producers. If we're going to give credit to producers then people should either be forming a lynch mob for, or think the sun shines out of Don Murphy's butt.

So yes, Orci and Kurtzman were very much the problem. They couldn't come up with an original idea between them. Take a look at their track record of writing and see that their big "successes" are based on franchises that have decades of mythology.