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Game Balance, The Missions seem a little off kilter?

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Postby Burn » Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:13 am

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Burn wrote:Who really cares?

Frankly he hasn't been missed.
Harsh, dude

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Postby Redimus » Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:30 am

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Burn wrote:
Omega Sentinel wrote:
Burn wrote:Who really cares?

Frankly he hasn't been missed.
Harsh, dude

Yes. Yes it was.


And also, true.

I can say I noticed him when he was about, and i never noticed he wasnt either...
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Postby Prowl240z » Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:04 pm

Mission results in the last 24 hours:
Autobots 475 vs 566 Decepticons
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Postby Tammuz » Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:07 pm

so that's 3.4% off a 50/50 balance?
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Postby Prowl240z » Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:17 pm

Tammuz wrote:so that's 3.4% off a 50/50 balance?


42/58 ....? its seems to be there is a descisive 8% issue here...
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Postby Tammuz » Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:22 pm

what? where'd 42 come from?

Mission results in the last 24 hours:
Decepticons 558/476 Autobots

that's 1034 missions

476/1034=0.46 give ore take some DP

so 46% win ratio for the bots, a whole 4% of the theoretical 50%, not 8%
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Postby Prowl240z » Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:40 pm

Tammuz wrote:what? where'd 42 come from?

Mission results in the last 24 hours:
Decepticons 558/476 Autobots

that's 1034 missions

476/1034=0.46 give ore take some DP

so 46% win ratio for the bots, a whole 4% of the theoretical 50%, not 8%



lol bad math on my part... 475/566 lawal..... lock this topic...

Autobots 489 557 Decepticons
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Postby doomboy536 » Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:00 am

And continuing...

Decepticons 538 - 496 Autobots

Narrowing the gap there, but you bots still have a long way to go :-P
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Postby Tifereth » Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:43 pm

doomboy536 wrote:And continuing...

Decepticons 538 - 496 Autobots

Narrowing the gap there, but you bots still have a long way to go :-P


:shock: :shock:

i thought u were inactive :P
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Postby doomboy536 » Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:41 pm

Tifereth wrote:
doomboy536 wrote:And continuing...

Decepticons 538 - 496 Autobots

Narrowing the gap there, but you bots still have a long way to go :-P


:shock: :shock:

i thought u were inactive :P


I was indeed inactive, but now I'm back and struggling as valiantly as ever. Bet you're scared eh? :-P
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Postby Tifereth » Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:06 pm

doomboy536 wrote:
Tifereth wrote:
doomboy536 wrote:And continuing...

Decepticons 538 - 496 Autobots

Narrowing the gap there, but you bots still have a long way to go :-P


:shock: :shock:

i thought u were inactive :P


I was indeed inactive, but now I'm back and struggling as valiantly as ever. Bet you're scared eh? :-P


hahaha, daaaaa

my team has grown since u left, check it in my sign :P
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Postby Prowl240z » Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:11 pm

its now up to a 10% difference...... I think So :p
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Postby Prowl240z » Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:56 pm

Ok so now the Balance is WAY off. looking here 459 - 646 thats nearly 41/59 split... and this has been an on going trend as far as I am seeing
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Postby Prowl240z » Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:08 pm

and tonight its Autobots 436 709 Decepticons


So that means autobots are clinging on at 38% and the cons are rocking us at 62% that seems just a BIT unbalanced!
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Postby QuietStorm » Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:16 pm

Prowl240z wrote:and tonight its Autobots 436 709 Decepticons


So that means autobots are clinging on at 38% and the cons are rocking us at 62% that seems just a BIT unbalanced!


Careful, Prowl, one thing at a time. I'm certain we'll get to the bottom of this conundrum after the other things are handled.

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Postby Redimus » Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:20 pm

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Prowl240z wrote:and tonight its Autobots 436 709 Decepticons


So that means autobots are clinging on at 38% and the cons are rocking us at 62% that seems just a BIT unbalanced!


Of course it's unbalanced! There's less active Bots than Cons right now!
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Mostly today all My Cons got Slagged.....

Postby Mighty Scorponok » Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:05 am

Well Mainly cause my Cons are all level 3's but mainly all my cons got slagged, but thats all my Cons are joining missions 3-4 or 3-5 but they get good exp but less energon
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Postby Knives » Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:54 pm

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I don't know about you guys but my lvl. 2 cons are getting their chassis handed to them. If I'm not getting outnumbered I'm getting a Dol, BB, or PPP shoved up my tail end repeatedly. And cursory glances at the opposing bots reveal I'm superior stat wise. It still irks me that all you need to beat a well thought out bot' is to just dump everything into speed and courage and carry one of the 3 cracked weapons. :BOOM:

But I digress. More related to this topic I'm being routinely outnumbered at all times of the day. So this lack of autobots must be a high lvl. thing. :-B
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Postby lkavadas » Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:16 pm

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I don't see how this victory imbalance in favor of the 'cons can be precise. My team has been getting absolutely raped in battles they should easily win for well over a week now.

In fact, my top performer two weeks ago (level 1) who regularly took top spot on missions is lucky to score a single point in a match. In fact, he's more likely to roll a donut on a mission than to score a single point.

My mission win percentage from 74% to 42% over the past week. I regularly lose level 0-1 missions when my team has more level 1s than the bots. I mean, I've just been getting consistently murdered no matter what mission I jump in or what transformer I use.

Has anyone else noticed this?
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Yeah I noticed.

Postby Mighty Scorponok » Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:45 pm

Yeah I noticed that too. But it might be basically cause once you get like close to next upgrade (no matter what point you are going for) the game makes it harder for you to get that point (which atthat time it makes low level bots (on each side of the war) make more energon than you. With a high level bots that makes it even more depressing.
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Postby -Soundwave- » Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:15 pm

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When I first started playing the Autobots dominatied the missions most often while the Decepticons controled the arena. Many players have leveled up, and or left the game, things like that do make a difference. I am sure that with the influx of new players that the lower leveled missons will start to impact that score and perhaps change it.
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Postby Robot » Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:26 pm

Redimus wrote:
Prowl240z wrote:and tonight its Autobots 436 709 Decepticons


So that means autobots are clinging on at 38% and the cons are rocking us at 62% that seems just a BIT unbalanced!


Of course it's unbalanced! There's less active Bots than Cons right now!
actually at level 0-2 most the time i see bot heavey missions everytime
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Postby LuckytheWonderLlama » Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:34 pm

Since before Christmas, my win/loss ratio had been hovering around 50%. I'm making decent XP but I am leaking energon like a sieve.
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Postby Rat Convoy » Sat Apr 28, 2007 12:27 am

The imbalance I think is mostly coming from the fact that there are more higher level cons than higher level bots, but more lower level bots than lower level cons (we're talking currently active, not total existing). The low level bots are filling up all the lower level missions, and then overflowing into the 1-3, 2-3, 2-4, and 3-5 missions. Because the Cons have more higher levels than lower levels, they're socking all high level bots into those same missions. Meaning that the bots get outleveled and lose most of the time. That's where the significant Con edge is at the moment.

Of course, if the lower level bots would just wait 5 minutes for more low-level missions to open rather than being lazy and joining missions where they'll get creamed, we'd be able to at least even the playing field, but I digress.
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Postby DISCHARGE » Sat Apr 28, 2007 12:34 am

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Deadboy wrote:The imbalance I think is mostly coming from the fact that there are more higher level cons than higher level bots, but more lower level bots than lower level cons (we're talking currently active, not total existing). The low level bots are filling up all the lower level missions, and then overflowing into the 1-3, 2-3, 2-4, and 3-5 missions. Because the Cons have more higher levels than lower levels, they're socking all high level bots into those same missions. Meaning that the bots get outleveled and lose most of the time. That's where the significant Con edge is at the moment.

Of course, if the lower level bots would just wait 5 minutes for more low-level missions to open rather than being lazy and joining missions where they'll get creamed, we'd be able to at least even the playing field, but I digress.



I take offense to that last bit of your comment:
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