The Energon Pub

by **Rat Convoy** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 12:37 am

DISCHARGE wrote:
Deadboy wrote:The imbalance I think is mostly coming from the fact that there are more higher level cons than higher level bots, but more lower level bots than lower level cons (we're talking currently active, not total existing). The low level bots are filling up all the lower level missions, and then overflowing into the 1-3, 2-3, 2-4, and 3-5 missions. Because the Cons have more higher levels than lower levels, they're socking all high level bots into those same missions. Meaning that the bots get outleveled and lose most of the time. That's where the significant Con edge is at the moment.

Of course, if the lower level bots would just wait 5 minutes for more low-level missions to open rather than being lazy and joining missions where they'll get creamed, we'd be able to at least even the playing field, but I digress.

I take offense to that last bit of your comment:
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... n_id=72797

Why? That mission you posted illustrated my point perfectly. All those 1s got their rear-ends handed to them and got crap for XP. And the Cons had more high levels, so with the odds in their favor, they won.

News Credits: 3 · by **DISCHARGE** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 12:41 am

Well my low level was untouched, and didn't get creamed.
I bet he'd a been ready to take a shot had those autobots
lasted longer.

by **Rat Convoy** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:01 am

*shrugs* Different strokes for different folks, I guess. If you're happy with 200 XP and being a non-factor in the battle, then ;)^

Edit: Hey! First time in at least a week I've seen us with any kind of lead, never mind a significant one:
Autobots 574 - 491 Decepticons

News Credits: 2 · by **-Soundwave-** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:24 am

Deadboy wrote:
DISCHARGE wrote:
Deadboy wrote:The imbalance I think is mostly coming from the fact that there are more higher level cons than higher level bots, but more lower level bots than lower level cons (we're talking currently active, not total existing). The low level bots are filling up all the lower level missions, and then overflowing into the 1-3, 2-3, 2-4, and 3-5 missions. Because the Cons have more higher levels than lower levels, they're socking all high level bots into those same missions. Meaning that the bots get outleveled and lose most of the time. That's where the significant Con edge is at the moment.

Of course, if the lower level bots would just wait 5 minutes for more low-level missions to open rather than being lazy and joining missions where they'll get creamed, we'd be able to at least even the playing field, but I digress.

I take offense to that last bit of your comment:
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... n_id=72797

Why? That mission you posted illustrated my point perfectly. All those 1s got their rear-ends handed to them and got crap for XP. And the Cons had more high levels, so with the odds in their favor, they won.

Its just my opinion, but its the 'Cons that realizing that if they join at the top of their missions instead of the lower end they tend to win more often.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:33 am

-Soundwave- wrote:Its just my opinion, but its the 'Cons that realizing that if they join at the top of their missions instead of the lower end they tend to win more often.

Call me crazy but it may have something to do with Autobots and cowardice and some lame excuse about being outnumbered all the time blah blah blah.

by **Tammuz** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:36 am

if i was an autobot commander i'd call for the arena to be closed....

by **Phaze** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:29 am

Tammuz wrote:if i was an autobot commander i'd call for the arena to be closed....

if it was possibly maybe restrict the arena to lv's 0-3 seeing as its the higher lvls were bots are at the most disadvantage currently

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:35 am

You do realise that if the arena is closed to force arena dwelling Autobot Commanders into missions ... that the Decepticon Commanders they fight will follow as well and the situation won't be any different?

by **Prowl240z** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:40 am

Burn wrote:You do realise that if the arena is closed to force arena dwelling Autobot Commanders into missions ... that the Decepticon Commanders they fight will follow as well and the situation won't be any different?

close is such a hard term what bout limit....lik eonly 20 arena battle per day...or what if the side that is lossing/undermanned gets a +10% speed up in CR chamber..... I knwo its not a lot but it gets those bots/con back out there faster :p

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:49 am

Would you like all this now or with the next version? ;;)

News Credits: 42 · by **Psychout** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:07 am

As far as the Arena goes, have we considered removing all the rewards and CR charges from it competely and adding a challenge feature?

That way its still available to waste a bit of time or to give someone in particular a good kicking, especially when you can nominate the opponent to battle against. Hell, under those conditions we could even fight opponents within our own factions.
It would get the dwellers into the misisons and still have a use.
:???:

by **Rat Convoy** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:38 am

-Soundwave- wrote:Its just my opinion, but its the 'Cons that realizing that if they join at the top of their missions instead of the lower end they tend to win more often.

That certainly is also a factor, I will not deny it.

But I did have level 2s just about 4 months ago, and considering your above point is the philosophy I live by when putting my own bots into missions, I remember it being a little hard to find missions where my bots were at the top of the level at times, because those missions were filling up rather fast. So I think my theory still works, even factoring that in.

And BTW, I wish more Bots would realize what you've said. Missions where I find my level 3 backed up by 5 level 2 bots against 6 level 3 Cons are starting to wear on my patience.

Edit: The missions are currently: Autobots 627 - 409 Decepticons.

News Credits: 3 · by **Rebirth Megatron** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:51 am

Post deleted due to mix up with me using the computer and not logging off for -Soundwave-.

News Credits: 2 · by **-Soundwave-** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:55 am

Deadboy wrote:
-Soundwave- wrote:Its just my opinion, but its the 'Cons that realizing that if they join at the top of their missions instead of the lower end they tend to win more often.

That certainly is also a factor, I will not deny it.

But I did have level 2s just about 4 months ago, and considering your above point is the philosophy I live by when putting my own bots into missions, I remember it being a little hard to find missions where my bots were at the top of the level at times, because those missions were filling up rather fast. So I think my theory still works, even factoring that in.

And BTW, I wish more Bots would realize what you've said. Missions where I find my level 3 backed up by 5 level 2 bots against 6 level 3 Cons are starting to wear on my patience.

Edit: The missions are currently: Autobots 627 - 409 Decepticons.

That right there is what sometimes makes the difference in Tournaments, and my mini-battles. Its sometimes hard for people not to want to go after the XP, but when it comes down to Tournies its about the win of the mission not the XP.

Edit: I knew that would happen at some point.

by **Tammuz** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 12:19 pm

Burn wrote:You do realise that if the arena is closed to force arena dwelling Autobot Commanders into missions ... that the Decepticon Commanders they fight will follow as well and the situation won't be any different?

but at the majority of levels the bot population does outnumber the cons, so for the most part we would get a greater influx of bots than cons.

Like steve2275 on Facebook · by **steve2275** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 4:56 am

Burn wrote:sprokitz and hoistimus haven't been playing as much. That's 24 high level bots not making a difference, 30 when you factor in Skits'

no wonder im losing

by **Edgecrusher** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 8:21 am

steve2275 wrote:
Burn wrote:sprokitz and hoistimus haven't been playing as much. That's 24 high level bots not making a difference, 30 when you factor in Skits'
no wonder im losing

no that's because you'Re steve

by **sprockitz** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:42 pm

steve2275 wrote:
Burn wrote:sprokitz and hoistimus haven't been playing as much. That's 24 high level bots not making a difference, 30 when you factor in Skits'
no wonder im losing

i didn't even notice i was playing less...guess i've gotten bored of the game after all these years. just did check, been over a month since i've posted anything on these here boards.

News Credits: 1 · by **Silverbolt** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:49 pm

sprockitz wrote:
steve2275 wrote:
Burn wrote:sprokitz and hoistimus haven't been playing as much. That's 24 high level bots not making a difference, 30 when you factor in Skits'
no wonder im losing

i didn't even notice i was playing less...guess i've gotten bored of the game after all these years. just did check, been over a month since i've posted anything on these here boards.

We all know its because you fear my invitable return to high Con status.

by **Nightwarp** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:54 pm

Prowl240z wrote:I just strikes me as odd suddenly, or recently that the Bot/Con ratios of wins/losses has got so unbalanced... has something major changed? are there just that many more cons then bots? or is there some massive level disparity that I am ignorant of?

And i realize right "<i>now</i>" its even but as the day goes on it will get way crazy >_> I wish there was a graph that showed the daily numbers >_>

Mission results in the last 24 hours:
Autobots 512 vs 518 Decepticons

But look at arena too...

Arena results in the last 24 hours:
Autobots 616 vs 745 Decepticons

actually thats wired cause you bots out number us
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... totals.php see