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I like that other robot mode better, but not feeling the flying car at all. I'm pretty disapointed with alot of the revamped g1 characters with car alt modes. The seekers are spot on, megatron is kool but Galavatron is a let down. Takara manged to make a WST of the BT Mazda RX8 mold. Still at least we're ae still treated to a good line and G1 still breathes life into the franchise from Masterpiece figures right down to the small legends figures.
When are we gonna get a new city former, we've had everything else, I want to see them attempt some big figures, a Metroplex remake would be great.

NuclearConvoy wrote:

Nemesis251 wrote:I don't know....I'm not to happy with this one. Tracks was one of my favorites from G1.

He was one of my favourites as well. What, specifically, is upsetting you?

The whole figure. I'm glad that the big wigs are trying to make us G1 fans happy, but it appears that they just made a toy and named it Tracks. I wish they would have put more into him like what was done with the Classics/Henkei line. Most of those when I look them give me the feeling I got when I watched the cartoon as a kid. I'm all for updating but to me Tracks was/is a fail.

Nemesis251 wrote:

NuclearConvoy wrote:

Nemesis251 wrote:I don't know....I'm not to happy with this one. Tracks was one of my favorites from G1.

He was one of my favourites as well. What, specifically, is upsetting you?

The whole figure. I'm glad that the big wigs are trying to make us G1 fans happy, but it appears that they just made a toy and named it Tracks. I wish they would have put more into him like what was done with the Classics/Henkei line. Most of those when I look them give me the feeling I got when I watched the cartoon as a kid. I'm all for updating but to me Tracks was/is a fail.

You really didn't answer my question... what specifically is wrong with it?

Well, I'm convinced now. I'll definitely accept this as a Wheeljack. I just hope that his alt mode comes with his spoiler. It's looking good so far. Thanks for the pics!

NuclearConvoy wrote:

Nemesis251 wrote:

NuclearConvoy wrote:

Nemesis251 wrote:I don't know....I'm not to happy with this one. Tracks was one of my favorites from G1.

He was one of my favourites as well. What, specifically, is upsetting you?

The whole figure. I'm glad that the big wigs are trying to make us G1 fans happy, but it appears that they just made a toy and named it Tracks. I wish they would have put more into him like what was done with the Classics/Henkei line. Most of those when I look at them give me the feeling I got when I watched the cartoon as a kid. I'm all for updating but to me Tracks was/is a fail.

You really didn't answer my question... what specifically is wrong with it?

I did. Read the first two sentences.

I honestly cant accept "The whole figure" and all that as acceptable. It's really a cop out answer. WHY do you feel that this is not Tracks? What about the figure gives you the impression that they "just made a figure and named it Tracks"?

I totally called the Wheeljack legs!

This really makes me wonder if Tracks was the original repaint / remould of Wheeljack? The fat wheeljack legs make it look a bajillion times better.

I'll be honest here, I really didn't care for Tracks up until this post...

Glad I'm getting mine in a few weeks

horus wrote:Uploaded a few more on Photobucket, better bandwidth then imageshack...

Flight mode, wheels turned down:


Size comparison:


Knees... it needs remolding on the grey painted part (Kneecap needs to take a walk) in order to bend the right way in Wheeljack mode cause no matter how you twist and turn and unscrew, those Tracks kneepads don't allow for the leg to bend the other way:



Sorry for the dark photos, it's 9pm here and I only have iPhone4 to work with

Thanks for the pic! I guess I was right about the wheels. As I was hoping, it is an improvement. Not much, but it looks a little less like a car with wings. You can also use your imagination and pretend their hovering thrusters.

NuclearConvoy wrote:I honestly cant accept "The whole figure" and all that as acceptable. It's really a cop out answer. WHY do you feel that this is not Tracks? What about the figure gives you the impression that they "just made a figure and named it Tracks"?

Let it go man

Some things are just too complex to explain when it comes to preference. It's the same with me and Generations Blurr; I just can't accept him as the character since it looks very similar to Drift. Granted, Blurr is growing on me bit by bit now that he stands on my shelf, but it's still not "Blurr" to me. Just take his comments as just a simple opinion and let it slide. Both you and I are liking the new Tracks figure, and that's all that matters.

Now that I've seen the alternate leg configuration I'm totally sold on this mold for Wheeljack. In fact I think it will make a better Wheeljack than Tracks. Really looking forward to seeing it with a WJ head and colors. Wonder if they will remold the wings to make them resemble G1 WJ's more?

Is there a rail clip on the but of Tracks's gun by chance? Because that "rifle" looks an awful lot like Wheeljack's rocket launcher to me.

Awesome! Thanks for uploading these pics! I'm looking forward to this guy even more now that I've seen his flight mode and the different places his rockets can attach.

Any chance the rockets can be stored inside the rear of the car and then popped out after you fold it backwards in vehicle mode?

Very nifty... and crafty on Hasbro's part. Build a toy that can be two fanwanker's dream characters and suddenly less people complain about OMG NOT ANUTHR REPAINT WTF HASBRO. Brilliant!

Down_Shift wrote:Glad I'm getting mine in a few weeks

!!

Malicron wrote:Is there a rail clip on the but of Tracks's gun by chance? Because that "rifle" looks an awful lot like Wheeljack's rocket launcher to me.

Totally agree~!

It's a nice attempt to make light of a dissappointing situation, but I dont think sacraficing the car doors to become wings is the answer. Maybe a 3rd party company can make some pop-on wings and tailfins to solve the "flying car" issue. Of course with that being said they will probally add on a bunch of other unnecessary body armor and weapons to jack up the price like they did for Fansproject Rodimus.

I'd say the chances are pretty good that we see that knee-pad gone.
Grapple shows that hasbro is willing to go the extra mile to make a retool different, though it did take them a long time to do it. So unless they planned it from the beginning (which I think they did) they may not change it.

As for this whole "was it meant to be Wheeljack or Tracks" argument, the truth is it's neither. If you still haven't figured it out already, the reason it looks weird is because it was meant to be both characters from conception.

Hasbro wrote:So when we have begun designing and developing these items, we are looking into the future about what other characters share the same base vehicle form.

Good or bad, I think we can expect more characters released in this way. So since Kup is apparently going to be a car, we should think of what else he could be eh?

*edit*
Trukk not kar.

I had already decided to get Tracks and these pictures have ensured that I'm looking forward even more to getting him.

Anyone who wants Wheeljack to have an original mode shouldn't complain; at least he's getting a new figure and from what these pictures show, it's going to be a very good likeness of his G1 figure. Repaints are a fact of toy collecting life. Every single character can't have their own mold, it would cost way too much for the toy companies.

I'll take a figure that looks 70-80% like the original character over no figure any day of the week.
However, as I've said before, if it's just a random figure that has no likeness whatsoever with the original and is just given a paint job and then a G1 name (Generations 'Blurr' I'm looking at you) then forget about it.

Luckily this isn't one of those, can't wait!

NuclearConvoy wrote:

Malicron wrote:Is there a rail clip on the but of Tracks's gun by chance? Because that "rifle" looks an awful lot like Wheeljack's rocket launcher to me.

Totally agree~!

yes you can

8 bit wrote:Awesome! Thanks for uploading these pics! I'm looking forward to this guy even more now that I've seen his flight mode and the different places his rockets can attach.

Any chance the rockets can be stored inside the rear of the car and then popped out after you fold it backwards in vehicle mode?

if i understood the question correctly, it is impossible, the only clips in that area are the ones that end up behind the robot area (grey part) and that part transforms in a way that it is not accessible in car mode

Sorry. I really can't see Wheeljack ion that body. And honestly I really hope Hasbro does not use it for Wheeljack

I can totally see the bot mode as Wheeljack. New head sculpt, and there we have it.

The alt mode is a acceptable for Wheeljack, but I really wish it looked more like a race car than a road car. The G1 Wheeljack alt mode is seriously hard to beat, and this faux-corvette alt mode doesn't quite cut the mustard. Oh well. We can't have everything all the time.

horus wrote:

NuclearConvoy wrote:

Malicron wrote:Is there a rail clip on the but of Tracks's gun by chance? Because that "rifle" looks an awful lot like Wheeljack's rocket launcher to me.

Totally agree~!

yes you can

Yep, that's Wheeljack alright. Thanks for the extra pic horus!