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chuckdawg1999 wrote:

1337W422102 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Big thing to come from that is there were plans to do a new Flagg based on the Resolute design.

This had better not come as a surprise to anyone.

It was to me.

Best be trollin', son. You honestly expected them to make something like that? A big-ass shelfwasting boat seen in 2 minutes (exterior shots, anyway) from a rickroll cartoon no one watched instead of a Star Wars vehicle?

1337W422102 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

1337W422102 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Big thing to come from that is there were plans to do a new Flagg based on the Resolute design.

This had better not come as a surprise to anyone.

It was to me.

Best be trollin', son. You honestly expected them to make something like that? A big-ass shelfwasting boat seen in 2 minutes (exterior shots, anyway) from a rickroll cartoon no one watched instead of a Star Wars vehicle?

I was surprised they even thought about it due to the reasons I mentioned above. I liked Resolute, and I know other people who did too.

Now here are some pics from the Hasbro archives panel. I wept a little.

http://i.toynewsi.com/g/index.php?mode=album&album=2011_Joe_Con%2FHasbro_Archives&dispsize=600&start=0

Yeah, the abandoned Transformers/GI Joe stuff makes me sad

Here's something we've all been waiting for.

Are G.I . Joe's suffering from the same distribution problems that Transformers are? I rarely see any PoC figures anywhere and most places only have the first two waves. I still haven't seen Shadow Tracker or Destro.

I think it depends where you are. They're notoriously difficult to find in Canada. Not as bad as the 25ths, but still pretty damn rough.

Evil_the_Nub wrote:Are G.I . Joe's suffering from the same distribution problems that Transformers are? I rarely see any PoC figures anywhere and most places only have the first two waves. I still haven't seen Shadow Tracker or Destro.

Yes and no. They're being stocked but slowly. Most stores that I go to have on average 3 to 4 rows of pegs overflowing with ROC figures which only leaves two rows of pegs for POC. In my TRU's the space has been shrunk further for the new Pirates of the Caribbean movie. Keep in mind that if it's a troop builder or the figure comes with a desired accessory a person will buy several at once leaving the undesired figures on the shelf. Most stores won't open a new box unless they have to and definitely not at the customers request. I will say we will see all the POC figures on shelves before the final waves of Generations and RTS.

I’ve mentioned this before but I’ve only read a handful of the GI Joe books from the Marvel era. The earliest book I think I’ve read is #21. I’ve been buying IDW’s reprints as they come out but haven’t had a chance to read them until yesterday.

Volume 1 collects #1 through #10, featuring an unfamiliar cast to me. I know Hawk, Stalker, Scarlett, Snake-Eyes, Rock 'n Roll, Cobra Commander, and The Baroness. However, I’m not too familiar with Clutch, Breaker, Flash, Steeler, Short-Fuse, Grunt, Grand Slam, and Zap. I think the only story I know that features Steeler, Clutch, and Grunt is that two part episode in the cartoon where they cross over to a parallel dimension.

While the stories I read weren’t as deep as The Silent Interlude or the Snake-Eyes Trilogy, they hold up very well. Fun self contained action thrillers in each issue. I think Larry Hama has said that while writing GI Joe, he knew the conflict the heroes will face but didn’t know how they’ll get out until he actually wrote the story. I definitely feel it as there are mini-cliffhangers at almost every turn.

While I know the later books focused on Snake-Eyes’ ninja abilities, it’s neat to see his humble beginnings as team’s elite commando. Then as the issues progress, Hama slowly hints at his origin.

Prior to reading the GI Joe comics, I was reading Marvel’s Godzilla comics which Herb Trimpe also drew. He did a great job telling a story but his art improved so much by the time he got to GI Joe. Plus it’s very apparent he has a knack for drawing military fantasy. It really makes me wish Marvel had GI Joe crossover SHIELD in the 1980’s with Herb Trimpe drawing.

Great read. I cannot wait to start Volume 2.

Side note, while reading up on the early comics I learned that #1 had a back up story called “Operation: Hot Potato” that wasn’t collected in the Marvel or IDW reprint. Bummers. Then again, I did buy #1 recently so I don’t mind that much. I hope that at some point IDW reprints this story along with those Yearbook stories.

"Hot Potato" hasn't been reprinted in the IDW trades, the comic packs, or even the Tales of G.I. Joe #1 reprint from the '80s. It's a very well done story that shows most of the team working together, Scarlett's leadership skill, and the courage of the Joes. #1 also had character and technology profile pages (which really showcase the characters' personalities) that weren't reprinted in trades/comic packs, and Tales of G.I. Joe #1 doesn't even have them all.

If I had a scanner, I would hook you up with the Hot Potato story and bonus content, no problem. As it stands, the most I can do is be a total tease:



If you want, I could photograph the pages from the book so you can see them. Scarlett's profile page made me laugh hard because it features her practising her aim, and Clutch is involved.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Evil_the_Nub wrote:Are G.I . Joe's suffering from the same distribution problems that Transformers are? I rarely see any PoC figures anywhere and most places only have the first two waves. I still haven't seen Shadow Tracker or Destro.

Yes and no. They're being stocked but slowly. Most stores that I go to have on average 3 to 4 rows of pegs overflowing with ROC figures which only leaves two rows of pegs for POC. In my TRU's the space has been shrunk further for the new Pirates of the Caribbean movie. Keep in mind that if it's a troop builder or the figure comes with a desired accessory a person will buy several at once leaving the undesired figures on the shelf. Most stores won't open a new box unless they have to and definitely not at the customers request. I will say we will see all the POC figures on shelves before the final waves of Generations and RTS.

Some of the Walmarts I've been to don't have any Joes at all, the rest only have RoC figures. TRU is the only place I've seen wave 3, but now they're restocking RoC stuff.

Evil_the_Nub wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Evil_the_Nub wrote:Are G.I . Joe's suffering from the same distribution problems that Transformers are? I rarely see any PoC figures anywhere and most places only have the first two waves. I still haven't seen Shadow Tracker or Destro.

Yes and no. They're being stocked but slowly. Most stores that I go to have on average 3 to 4 rows of pegs overflowing with ROC figures which only leaves two rows of pegs for POC. In my TRU's the space has been shrunk further for the new Pirates of the Caribbean movie. Keep in mind that if it's a troop builder or the figure comes with a desired accessory a person will buy several at once leaving the undesired figures on the shelf. Most stores won't open a new box unless they have to and definitely not at the customers request. I will say we will see all the POC figures on shelves before the final waves of Generations and RTS.

Some of the Walmarts I've been to don't have any Joes at all, the rest only have RoC figures. TRU is the only place I've seen wave 3, but now they're restocking RoC stuff.

It was revealed at Joe Con that some Walmart's dropped the Joe line due to weak sales. Hasbro is working on this.

Supreme Convoy wrote:I’ve mentioned this before but I’ve only read a handful of the GI Joe books from the Marvel era. The earliest book I think I’ve read is #21. I’ve been buying IDW’s reprints as they come out but haven’t had a chance to read them until yesterday.

Volume 1 collects #1 through #10, featuring an unfamiliar cast to me. I know Hawk, Stalker, Scarlett, Snake-Eyes, Rock 'n Roll, Cobra Commander, and The Baroness. However, I’m not too familiar with Clutch, Breaker, Flash, Steeler, Short-Fuse, Grunt, Grand Slam, and Zap. I think the only story I know that features Steeler, Clutch, and Grunt is that two part episode in the cartoon where they cross over to a parallel dimension.

While the stories I read weren’t as deep as The Silent Interlude or the Snake-Eyes Trilogy, they hold up very well. Fun self contained action thrillers in each issue. I think Larry Hama has said that while writing GI Joe, he knew the conflict the heroes will face but didn’t know how they’ll get out until he actually wrote the story. I definitely feel it as there are mini-cliffhangers at almost every turn.

While I know the later books focused on Snake-Eyes’ ninja abilities, it’s neat to see his humble beginnings as team’s elite commando. Then as the issues progress, Hama slowly hints at his origin.

Prior to reading the GI Joe comics, I was reading Marvel’s Godzilla comics which Herb Trimpe also drew. He did a great job telling a story but his art improved so much by the time he got to GI Joe. Plus it’s very apparent he has a knack for drawing military fantasy. It really makes me wish Marvel had GI Joe crossover SHIELD in the 1980’s with Herb Trimpe drawing.

Great read. I cannot wait to start Volume 2.

Side note, while reading up on the early comics I learned that #1 had a back up story called “Operation: Hot Potato” that wasn’t collected in the Marvel or IDW reprint. Bummers. Then again, I did buy #1 recently so I don’t mind that much. I hope that at some point IDW reprints this story along with those Yearbook stories.

I only picked up a few issues of Joe when I was a kid and didn't like it because it wasn't the Joe I knew from the show. I have a lot of the trades and I'm slowly working my way through them. Some of it, like the dissension in Cobra, felt rushed and I'm not a big fan of death used as plot devices. For the first two years of Joe the comics were the only source of story and character development. This is also where the divinity of the original 13 comes from.

1337W422102 wrote:If you want, I could photograph the pages from the book so you can see them. Scarlett's profile page made me laugh hard because it features her practising her aim, and Clutch is involved.

It's cool. I mentioned in the post that I recently bought #1. I think I posted it here but it was a beat up copy that I found for $2. It's the OCD nerd in me that wants everything collected in one spot.

And if we're showing off Hama autographs...





(I had more stuff signed but #21 was a highlight for me)

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I only picked up a few issues of Joe when I was a kid and didn't like it because it wasn't the Joe I knew from the show.

Same here. I was more familiar with the cartoon than comic.

Supreme Convoy wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I only picked up a few issues of Joe when I was a kid and didn't like it because it wasn't the Joe I knew from the show.

Same here. I was more familiar with the cartoon than comic.

Deep down I really hope that at some point hasbro makes a Cobra Commander with a removable helmet and cowl that shows a mutant head underneath.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Supreme Convoy wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I only picked up a few issues of Joe when I was a kid and didn't like it because it wasn't the Joe I knew from the show.

Same here. I was more familiar with the cartoon than comic.

Deep down I really hope that at some point hasbro makes a Cobra Commander with a removable helmet and cowl that shows a mutant head underneath.

Get the eff out.

1337W422102 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Supreme Convoy wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I only picked up a few issues of Joe when I was a kid and didn't like it because it wasn't the Joe I knew from the show.

Same here. I was more familiar with the cartoon than comic.

Deep down I really hope that at some point hasbro makes a Cobra Commander with a removable helmet and cowl that shows a mutant head underneath.

Get the eff out.

Did you watch my video? I made it for you.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Deep down I really hope that at some point hasbro makes a Cobra Commander with a removable helmet and cowl that shows a mutant head underneath.

If Hasbro can do ex-car dealer Cobra Commander exclusive, I'm sure they can make a primordial Cobra Commander Comic-Con exclusive.

LMAO at that picture!

Love it. It looks like "Late night, time share infomercial C.C."

Supreme Convoy wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Deep down I really hope that at some point hasbro makes a Cobra Commander with a removable helmet and cowl that shows a mutant head underneath.

If Hasbro can do ex-car dealer Cobra Commander exclusive, I'm sure they can make a primordial Cobra Commander Comic-Con exclusive.

What the frak? Is he giving a commencement speech at Cobra University? That's the funniest CC I've seen yet.

adamassc wrote:

Supreme Convoy wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Deep down I really hope that at some point hasbro makes a Cobra Commander with a removable helmet and cowl that shows a mutant head underneath.

If Hasbro can do ex-car dealer Cobra Commander exclusive, I'm sure they can make a primordial Cobra Commander Comic-Con exclusive.

What the frak? Is he giving a commencement speech at Cobra University? That's the funniest CC I've seen yet.

He was the SDCC exclusive a few years ago. There were two versions one in a brown suit and the variant shown above in the Cobra Country Club jacket. Except for the head the figure is made from an Indiana Jones body.

That's the convention-exclusive propaganda-speech Cobra Commander. The cardback was fantastic. The head is new and the body was made for the [eventually cancelled] Donovan figure from the Indiana Jones line.

The Cobra Commander Tribute issue came out today. While I knew it had a reprint of #12, the solicitations claimed it would have "new insights from major Cobra and G.I. Joe players on what the demise of the Commander might mean for them and the world, creator interviews, and more, along with classic Cobra Commander tales from the past! Contains bonus poster of the Kill Shot!"

In actuality, it only had a few pages of character profiles, reacting to the death of Cobra Commander. The other 3/4 of the book was dedicated to three Marvel issues. The lack of poster wasn't an issue but I really wanted to read creator interviews. There was only three new pages of content.

It also included a profile on Cobra Commander with an image drawn by Neal Adams... when did he draw GI Joe material?

Supreme Convoy wrote:

The Cobra Commander Tribute issue came out today. While I knew it had a reprint of #12, the solicitations claimed it would have "new insights from major Cobra and G.I. Joe players on what the demise of the Commander might mean for them and the world, creator interviews, and more, along with classic Cobra Commander tales from the past! Contains bonus poster of the Kill Shot!"

In actuality, it only had a few pages of character profiles, reacting to the death of Cobra Commander. The other 3/4 of the book was dedicated to three Marvel issues. The lack of poster wasn't an issue but I really wanted to read creator interviews. There was only three new pages of content.

It also included a profile on Cobra Commander with an image drawn by Neal Adams... when did he draw GI Joe material?

And this is another reason why I don't read comics anymore. That's utter garbage that what was solicited wasn't delivered. I am curious though about the new Larry Hama continued ARAH series. Does anyone know if it picks up directly in the 1990's?