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-Kanrabat- wrote:Well, Trump is a businessmen and he want a deal. So, people will have to negociate.
Stiiiiiilllll.....
I don't see why can't we follow the logic that's already printed on North American Transformers boxes (It's written "Longueuil, Québec" in the copyrights section) and import all Transformers pre-made parts in Canada. Then we build the toys and put the finishing touch, pack them here, and they become Canadian goods.
This could work for the USA too I think.
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Also, as I mentioned before, the US labor Unions would cause prices to shoot up worse than we're thinking now.
-Kanrabat- wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Also, as I mentioned before, the US labor Unions would cause prices to shoot up worse than we're thinking now.
This could be offset by cutting taxes drastically.
But would the government have the courage to do it?
-Kanrabat- wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Also, as I mentioned before, the US labor Unions would cause prices to shoot up worse than we're thinking now.
This could be offset by cutting taxes drastically.
But would the government have the courage to do it?
Hero Alpha wrote:I agree with the reciprocal tariffs
DISCHARGE wrote:By enacting tariffs on all other foreign countries and deriving income from tariffs, a tax, they will supposedly lower other forms of taxes.
Psychout wrote:Im not scared of a gender confused minibot!
Glyph wrote:DISCHARGE wrote:By enacting tariffs on all other foreign countries and deriving income from tariffs, a tax, they will supposedly lower other forms of taxes.
The thing that people have been repeatedly trying, and failing, to make his supporters understand is that tariffs are paid by the IMPORTER, not the EXPORTER. The idea of a tariff is to raise the price of imported X to encourage people to buy domestic X. This is a problem if, like the US, you don't or can't (profitably) produce X domestically.
DISCHARGE wrote:Companies like Hasbro may possibly get around such tariffs by splitting and creating: Hasbro, Canada, and having goods shipped directly to home ports.
That could bypass the U.S. ports and initial tariffs.
Dino-Snarl wrote:It may not be long before Hasbro starts canceling factory orders in Vietnam (hit with 46% tariffs), making it impossible to finish the lines that have been scheduled for this year and the upcoming years. This might be the death knell for production for Hasbro in Vietnam, but not for to TakaraTomy. Collectors may just switch over to them to finish the lines that have already been announced and then see what happens next. Japan has gone it alone in the past. When G1 ended in the rest of the world they continued with three more series in Japan with figures only Japan got.
william-james88 wrote:DISCHARGE wrote:Companies like Hasbro may possibly get around such tariffs by splitting and creating: Hasbro, Canada, and having goods shipped directly to home ports.
That could bypass the U.S. ports and initial tariffs.
This is where my mind went and its similar to what Kanrabat was getting at, rerouting trade routes to avoid higher tariffs.
Emerje wrote:Problem is the Generations line survives only as a partnership between Hasbro and Takara Tomy. If Hasbro pulls out I could see TT doing the same. As it is they only use that Vietnam factory because Hasbro does, all of their original stuff like Masterpiece is made in China. I think without Hasbro the factories would just shut down, or perhaps just become storage for molds. Here's the thing, Cocks does not want to make toys, as soon as they become unprofitable they'll just stop making them and under him they're never going back. I can't see a future where he goes back later. He's more likely to license out Transformers wholesale to another company to make. Like he did with Power Rangers he'd probably sell off any assets they have, sell off molds that other companies may be interested in and destroy the rest. I know it's a pessimistic view and a lot of doom and gloom, but it's entirely possible between a CEO that doesn't want to make toys and market that can't make them profitable.
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
ScottyP wrote:I am wholly unconvinced that any of this will ever materially benefit a single consumer, and sadly, that's probably the point.
Psychout wrote:Im not scared of a gender confused minibot!
Glyph wrote:Hero Alpha wrote:I agree with the reciprocal tariffs
For the avoidance of doubt, these are not "reciprocal tariffs". The EU, for example, does not have a blanket 39% tariff on US goods; Vietnam (where our toys are made) does not have a 90% tariff on US goods............etc.
Hero Alpha wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Also, as I mentioned before, the US labor Unions would cause prices to shoot up worse than we're thinking now.
This could be offset by cutting taxes drastically.
But would the government have the courage to do it?
As of right now, congress is being very slow or just not at all, working to pass the Trump tax cuts. Which would offset some of this. I agree with the reciprocal tariffs, but some of the others.....I believe/hope its part of Trump's "art of the deal" plan. So far quite a few big companies have newly invested hundreds of millions of dollars in US manufacturing(Apple, Nvidia etc.), so again, some hope. ALready a couple countries have dropped their tariffs in response.
Hero Alpha wrote:Yeah I know, thats why I said what I said in my post, which u clipped out. Never did I say these were all reciprocal.Glyph wrote:For the avoidance of doubt, these are not "reciprocal tariffs".Hero Alpha wrote:I agree with the reciprocal tariffs
Hero Alpha wrote:Yeah I know, thats why I said what I said in my post, which u clipped out.
DISCHARGE wrote:There is more going on with these tariffs than what is on the surface. I would personally be more acceptable of a flat federal sales tax than attempting to convince people tariffs "level the playing field".
Psychout wrote:Im not scared of a gender confused minibot!
I completely agree. These guys don't care about us - and I mean all of us, both their supporters and detractors. To paraphrase the late, great Mr. Carlin, it's a big club, and we ain't in it.Glyph wrote:Economically illiterate, obviously - just look at the markets and his reaction to the China reprisal - but I think he also has a contingent around him who know damn well they can pick up fire sale stocks in the crash and make a killing when things eventually recover.
ScottyP wrote:I completely agree. These guys don't care about us - and I mean all of us, both their supporters and detractors. To paraphrase the late, great Mr. Carlin, it's a big club, and we ain't in it.Glyph wrote:Economically illiterate, obviously - just look at the markets and his reaction to the China reprisal - but I think he also has a contingent around him who know damn well they can pick up fire sale stocks in the crash and make a killing when things eventually recover.
That club don't collect Transformers either ;_;
Glyph wrote:
Economically illiterate, obviously - just look at the markets and his reaction to the China reprisal - but I think he also has a contingent around him who know damn well they can pick up fire sale stocks in the crash and make a killing when things eventually recover.
Dead Metal wrote:Where is this idea that tariffs are the same as VAT come from?
This approach will be of comprehensive scope, examining non-reciprocal trade relationships with all United States trading partners, including any:
(a) tariffs imposed on United States products;
(b) unfair, discriminatory, or extraterritorial taxes imposed by our trading partners on United States businesses, workers, and consumers, including a value-added tax;
DISCHARGE wrote:Hero Alpha wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Also, as I mentioned before, the US labor Unions would cause prices to shoot up worse than we're thinking now.
This could be offset by cutting taxes drastically.
But would the government have the courage to do it?
As of right now, congress is being very slow or just not at all, working to pass the Trump tax cuts. Which would offset some of this. I agree with the reciprocal tariffs, but some of the others.....I believe/hope its part of Trump's "art of the deal" plan. So far quite a few big companies have newly invested hundreds of millions of dollars in US manufacturing(Apple, Nvidia etc.), so again, some hope. ALready a couple countries have dropped their tariffs in response.
I don't want to cut out any of your post.
Please list the countries that have dropped their tariffs on the U.S. due to reciprocal tariffs.
There are a few countries left off the list of tariffs due to existing sanctions like Russia, North Korea and Cuba. Countries we are not allowed to do business with due to horrific human rights abuse among a slew of other issues. Mexico is not being impacted due to existing trade agreements, and maybe other factors I won't speculate.
There is so much more happening, and about to happen using tariffs to gaslight society
Reducing government in the light of exposing fraud and abuse is a blindside to consolidate powers and have less people say "No, that's not legal or ethical."
Oh wow Apple is going to produce some iPhones in the U.S.
Well thats good because so many people who have been in place to efficiently run government services like the TSA, who's union contract has been torn up up null and void are losing their jobs.
Privatizing the post office is going to result in more people losing their jobs.. well it's great we'll have manufacturing jobs to fill that gap in the work environment. We are going to start ripping up our forests, national treasures of beauty and granduer, great we'll need loggers. I'm sure all these TikTokers are looking forward to that if they lose their payroll if that platform is banned. Yes that's a different issue but involves citizens that may lose their income and means of living. I've had factory jobs, they were droll and mind-numbing.
We are also moving quickly with advancements in A.I.. what then when robots are put in place to do the repetitive manufacuring jobs rendering human hands unnecessary? They are 3D printing houses. There will come a point when builders are not needed.
I could honestly see a future where Hasbro sells a license to print and you receive screws and pins through Amazon and build your own toys.
There is more going on with these tariffs than what is on the surface. I would personally be more acceptable of a flat federal sales tax than attempting to convince people tariffs "level the playing field". The government at the moment is trying to make money. Not collect funds to operate. The U.S. government is not a money making enterprise. It is by the people for the people.
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