craggy wrote:I get why it's actionable, and why it must be. Except of course, I don't. Surely Hasbro could have done a deal with Asus to give away a free copy of War For Cybertron with each one, stick a Transformers: Prime advert on the box, and a sticker on it, and everyone profits?
FWIW I've got an ASUS mobo and gpu and don't have anything bad to say about them as a company, nor do I see this as Hasbro bullying another company, as I say above, I see it as a missed marketing opportunity.
Blackstreak wrote:Why name a laptop Transformer Prime anyways?
craggy wrote:there's a mobile phone here called "Optimus". wonder if they'll notice that?
Vicalliose wrote:And y'know what? I don't give a s**t about copyright anymore. Nope. Don't give a f**k who pirates what or steals the name of whatever. I hate all lawyers and politicians who fight for copyright laws. SOPA makes me want to steal s**t.
Forgotten wrote:Wonder if General Electric has ever given Hasbro crap about using transformers as a name for a franchise since it is the name of a staple component of the electric system.
rpetras wrote:Vicalliose wrote:And y'know what? I don't give a s**t about copyright anymore. Nope. Don't give a f**k who pirates what or steals the name of whatever. I hate all lawyers and politicians who fight for copyright laws. SOPA makes me want to steal s**t.
I kind of agree with this.
The nonsense that is modern copyright law just makes me not give a crap.
If anyone cares to read up on it, Lawrence Lessig's book "Free Culture" is all about this subject, and is freely available online. Not sure of the link to the book, but here is the link to his site http://www.lessig.org/
Sorry but I don't entirely agree with that. Loads of people create things without expectation of compensation. And copyright laws, as many will argue, only encourage piracy and the mindset that you need to make money off of everything. Either way s**t will get stolen. Personally, if I like a person's work I will buy it, because I want them to continue their work, someone who stole that work would be someone who didn't care about it enough to buy it to begin with, or they simply did not have the money, in which case they also never would have bought it anyway. Though granted creativity would be more scarce if people didn't think they could make tons of money off of it, but people in entertainment industries make far too much money anyway. Also a lack of certain "creative" people would almost be a good thing in my opinion, since "creativity" is really just doing the same thing over and over again these days. And someone who creates just for the money is not truly a creative person, a person who is creative must create things, they live and breath creativity. What you are talking about is just business, not creativity.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Another cold hard truth is that copyright protection promotes (or forces, take it as you will) creativity. Imagine a world without such protection. In a worst case scenario, creativity would be more dead than an animal's carcass that's been pulled along the road for over a thousand miles, run over by a steamroller, then left basking in the desert sun for 10 years before ultimately being flung into it hitting an asteroid along the way. People would lose motivation to create as their ideas will get stolen left and right, and thus not bother. No new product, economy will come to a screeching halt as it can not evolve anymore.
LiKwid wrote:Ok Ok someone has to say it...
"ASUS just got KO'd"
Whaaaaat?...too soon?
RiddlerJ wrote:Each one will come with an autographed picture of Michael Bay sitting on top of a huge pile of money.
Rated X wrote:Hasbro is just one big joke. They already got alot of hate for messing with KO toys. Hasbro if you want to make money, step up your game and make figures collectors want. Stop doing b***h s**t because it makes you loose much respect.
Burn wrote:Rated X wrote:Hasbro is just one big joke. They already got alot of hate for messing with KO toys. Hasbro if you want to make money, step up your game and make figures collectors want. Stop doing b***h s**t because it makes you loose much respect.
Consider your rant invalidated.
Rated X wrote:Burn wrote:Rated X wrote:Hasbro is just one big joke. They already got alot of hate for messing with KO toys. Hasbro if you want to make money, step up your game and make figures collectors want. Stop doing b***h s**t because it makes you loose much respect.
Consider your rant invalidated.
By who ???
If you are going to conduct a survey with a general opinion based on numbers rather than your own pro-Hasbro stance, then you can get on my level. Until then, the number of posters on this KO toys forum speaks otherwise...
See for yourself:
https://www.kotoys.com/forum/index.php/ ... 192.0.html
Are you implying these people dont really exist ???
Burn wrote:Rated X wrote:Burn wrote:Rated X wrote:Hasbro is just one big joke. They already got alot of hate for messing with KO toys. Hasbro if you want to make money, step up your game and make figures collectors want. Stop doing b***h s**t because it makes you loose much respect.
Consider your rant invalidated.
By who ???
If you are going to conduct a survey with a general opinion based on numbers rather than your own pro-Hasbro stance, then you can get on my level. Until then, the number of posters on this KO toys forum speaks otherwise...
See for yourself:
https://www.kotoys.com/forum/index.php/ ... 192.0.html
Are you implying these people dont really exist ???
What survey? I never said anything about a survey.
If Hasbro's profits are increasing by 10% this quarter, then clearly respect isn't dropping for them.
Or are you one of those people who think the "collectors" are all that matter to Hasbro?
Geminii wrote:It's just a flipping laptop. ASUS could go back to their marketing division and ask for fifty new names. Considering some of the nonsense syllables which have been assigned to laptop brands over the years, who'd notice.
My bet is that ASUS did it deliberately so Hasbro would be forced to sue them and ASUS could then piggyback from the publicity associated with the Transformers movies. It's a way to get their name and mention of their product on every geek site on the internet. Once they've achieved maximum awareness, my bet is that they'll change the name - and they'll then get a second round of free advertising in their target markets as the news about the change propogates through the same channels.
Tidalwavex wrote:(1)IMHO,It's plainly obvious this ASUS named their tablet/laptop after a transformers toy line on purpose. Asus is clearly in the wrong here. as asus is the equivelant of a internet troll. who starts trouble un-provoked.gets in your face & upsets you.
(2)I agree with "Gemini",ASUS could have clearly chosen billions of other names to call their product.
(3)IMHO,Some who are upset with hasbro over the Asus law suit. are only upset because of kotoys.com. IMHO, Some are further upset with hasbro suing Asus because they think hasbro will go on a wild rampage & start closing down & suing all the other 3rd party TF toy companies.
(4)I find it ironic that Hasbro goes after a smaller fish in the pond called ASUS. But hasbro has never gone after the bigger fish in the pond called USA Bandai,for using the "Transforming/Transforms" words of their Power rangers toys packaging for over 16+ years. Bandai could have used billions of words to describe the change process of one mode to the next. bandai clearly used the "Transforming/transforms" words to bypass the loop holes in the Patent/trademark rules, upset & troll hasbro.
(5)Both Asus & USA Bandai are clealy using loop holes in the patent/trade marks laws to troll & upset hasbro. Hasbro can't trademark nor patent the words transforming/transforms because it's a adjective used to describe a movement of action. Hasbro doesn't have a legal lawsuit case with Asus because Hasbro can only patent/trade mark stuff in catergories they use like toys.
patent's/trade marks expire if you don't use them in certain category. Even though Asus is trolling hasbro,asus has the right to use the TF Prime name because their in the computer category & hasbro is in the toy category. hasbro never bothered to patent/trade mark anything called Transformers Prime in the computer category,asus did. so therefore asus has full right to the use of the TF Prime names.
(6)Like I said above. hasbro is getting free advertisemt from asus with the transforming prime words on their tablet/lap top.
because everytime people buy or see the TF Prime words on the asus tablet.they'll think Transformers toys & head down the toy aisle to buy their kids/self Transformers toys. I guess hasbro doesn't like free advertisement.
kirbenvost wrote:I just hope this doesn't lead to 3rd parties getting shut down. I guess that makes me a little hypocritical, but a lot of them stay within the rules and are trying to do it for the fans.
Asus is another huge megacorporation which is clearly trying to gain extra profits by creating the appearance of association with Hasbro's products.
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