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-Kanrabat- wrote:Autobot N wrote:Like those $170 Trainbots. Really wish they were cheaper, now they're out of my price range-Kanrabat- wrote:SpikeyTigertron wrote:https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810211686/
wonder why he costs so much more on TakaraTomy Mall
Because Japan.
ALL Transformers cost more in Japan for reasons.
Those don't count, being Japan exclusives. But if you compare the base prices of SS and WFC toys, they are more expensive in Japan...
....wait....
I may be talking out of my ass here. Japan display their prices WITH the sale tax included. That's why they seems more expensive. Furthermore, the base prices get cheaper when you checkout at Amazon.jp. The sales tax is removed.
So does that mean Mandarake is screwing foreign orders over?
SpikeyTigertron wrote:https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810211686/
wonder why he costs so much more on TakaraTomy Mall
william-james88 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Autobot N wrote:Like those $170 Trainbots. Really wish they were cheaper, now they're out of my price range-Kanrabat- wrote:SpikeyTigertron wrote:https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810211686/
wonder why he costs so much more on TakaraTomy Mall
Because Japan.
ALL Transformers cost more in Japan for reasons.
Those don't count, being Japan exclusives. But if you compare the base prices of SS and WFC toys, they are more expensive in Japan...
....wait....
I may be talking out of my ass here. Japan display their prices WITH the sale tax included. That's why they seems more expensive. Furthermore, the base prices get cheaper when you checkout at Amazon.jp. The sales tax is removed.
So does that mean Mandarake is screwing foreign orders over?
Mandarake is not a retailer in the proper sense that it gets a toy from the distributor (supplier), they are a collectible second hand store. So we can't apply the same principles. And this Victory Saber isn't sold at Japanese big box retail either so it's in it's own pricing category as well.
Emerje wrote:
Mandarake doesn't charge sales tax on foreign orders. In fact the physical stores don't either, they have special duty free procedures for tourists.
Emerje
MeGrimlock78 wrote:So here's a question I've been thinking of...they'll be making 15,000 (at least) Victory Sabers...how many Commander Class Sky Lynx or Titan Class Scorponok do you think Hasbro made?
I'm having a tough time estimating. TRU Canada has 85 stores...say 10 per store is 850, so round to 1K. Twice that for Walmart gets us to 3K, and double that again for the rest of Canada is about 6K for the country...that seems low to me...
william-james88 wrote:MeGrimlock78 wrote:So here's a question I've been thinking of...they'll be making 15,000 (at least) Victory Sabers...how many Commander Class Sky Lynx or Titan Class Scorponok do you think Hasbro made?
I'm having a tough time estimating. TRU Canada has 85 stores...say 10 per store is 850, so round to 1K. Twice that for Walmart gets us to 3K, and double that again for the rest of Canada is about 6K for the country...that seems low to me...
We've estimated about 100k total for Skylynx before. Not sure about Scorponok.
sol magnus wrote:william-james88 wrote:MeGrimlock78 wrote:So here's a question I've been thinking of...they'll be making 15,000 (at least) Victory Sabers...how many Commander Class Sky Lynx or Titan Class Scorponok do you think Hasbro made?
I'm having a tough time estimating. TRU Canada has 85 stores...say 10 per store is 850, so round to 1K. Twice that for Walmart gets us to 3K, and double that again for the rest of Canada is about 6K for the country...that seems low to me...
We've estimated about 100k total for Skylynx before. Not sure about Scorponok.
Plus Scorponok got rereleased.
o.supreme wrote:You are not the only one. I wanted to know as well. Will was doing some research. The numbers were just guesstimated (It would be nice if Hasbro actually told us), but I think we were guessing somewhere in the neighborhood of 50K units for a Titan, and 100K for a CC. Of course those would probably vary slightly depending on how well the previous one sold. Having to do a 2nd (even if much smaller) run like Omega Supreme and Scorponok is a good sign as opposed to going on clearance like Fort Max or Trypticon (*though to be fair I think Tryp was more of a distribution issue. If Walmart and Target chose to carry it at the time , not just TRU, it probably wouldn't have ended up at Ollies for $40)
Emerje wrote:o.supreme wrote:You are not the only one. I wanted to know as well. Will was doing some research. The numbers were just guesstimated (It would be nice if Hasbro actually told us), but I think we were guessing somewhere in the neighborhood of 50K units for a Titan, and 100K for a CC. Of course those would probably vary slightly depending on how well the previous one sold. Having to do a 2nd (even if much smaller) run like Omega Supreme and Scorponok is a good sign as opposed to going on clearance like Fort Max or Trypticon (*though to be fair I think Tryp was more of a distribution issue. If Walmart and Target chose to carry it at the time , not just TRU, it probably wouldn't have ended up at Ollies for $40)
Yeah, a lot of Trypticon's problems came from TRU closing. Everyone in the industry, including Hasbro, thought other retailers would step in to pick up the slack. There were reports of stores that don't have toy sections starting new ones, traditional retailers expanding their toy aisles and Amazon taking in more orders. Probably that last one was the only one that happened as they ended up with a glut of Trypticons, but Hasbro didn't get the B&M orders they needed for casual buyers, impulse buyers and parents and had to liquidate their stock which must have been pretty excessive. Hasbro's new plan to reduce the initial stock, monitor demand and then restock nearly a year later if needed is probably the right move for them.
Now, that said.
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Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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Epsilon Delta wrote:I'm just thinking, if it was a Bumblebee or an Optimus Prime under $50, I could understand marketing to the parents. The fact that it's around $200 (after taxes) of an unrecognizable character (to a parent that would be "shoppinging off the ads" to find a gift for their child), it just really doesn't make sense. I would be very interested to know how many parents with no affinity for Transformers backed this because they were looking for a gift for their kid that likes Transformers. I need stats Hasbro
King Kuuga wrote:These things always move fast at the last minute. You love to see it. I'm quite confident now we'll cross the 20k.
william-james88 wrote:Epsilon Delta wrote:I'm just thinking, if it was a Bumblebee or an Optimus Prime under $50, I could understand marketing to the parents. The fact that it's around $200 (after taxes) of an unrecognizable character (to a parent that would be "shoppinging off the ads" to find a gift for their child), it just really doesn't make sense. I would be very interested to know how many parents with no affinity for Transformers backed this because they were looking for a gift for their kid that likes Transformers. I need stats Hasbro
What makes no sense to me is that this toy comes out in 2022 and we don't have a sure date.
Parents do make big purchases for their kids, but it's usually for special events and it,s of things they know they want then. Asking parents to spend 200$ for a toy released sometime next year with no guarantee that their kid will still be into it then? Just feels like a charade to make it seem like they are still a fully family friendly company and are not dedicating themselves to just fans, for even this particular product.
Not cool, man.william-james88 wrote:Unless Hasbro is talking to parents of 30 year olds who still live with them in the basement.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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