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cruizerdave wrote:I bet that makes Retroblasting’s blood boil!
Epsilon Delta wrote:william-james88 wrote:Epsilon Delta wrote:I'm just thinking, if it was a Bumblebee or an Optimus Prime under $50, I could understand marketing to the parents. The fact that it's around $200 (after taxes) of an unrecognizable character (to a parent that would be "shoppinging off the ads" to find a gift for their child), it just really doesn't make sense. I would be very interested to know how many parents with no affinity for Transformers backed this because they were looking for a gift for their kid that likes Transformers. I need stats Hasbro
What makes no sense to me is that this toy comes out in 2022 and we don't have a sure date.
Parents do make big purchases for their kids, but it's usually for special events and it,s of things they know they want then. Asking parents to spend 200$ for a toy released sometime next year with no guarantee that their kid will still be into it then? Just feels like a charade to make it seem like they are still a fully family friendly company and are not dedicating themselves to just fans, for even this particular product.
I didn't even think about it not coming out until next year. Kids' tastes are very fickle. My son is going from Transformers, to Beyblades, to Power Rangers, to Pokemon and back again. It changes weekly. You can't buy anything unless you plan on giving it to them right away because you wait too long and they might not be into it anymore.
I too want to know who the parents are throwing $200 around because they read an ad, and see if they want to adopt me. They really should word it "Parents, collectors, enthusiasts..." Are they just trying to fool... I'm not sure... Themselves?
-Kanrabat- wrote:Once the TT and 3P orders flood into the total, I'll be surprised if the number end at below 20k backed units.
Sabrblade wrote:Not cool, man.william-james88 wrote:Unless Hasbro is talking to parents of 30 year olds who still live with them in the basement.
cruizerdave wrote:I bet that makes Retroblasting’s blood boil!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
william-james88 wrote:cruizerdave wrote:I bet that makes Retroblasting’s blood boil!
Any chance on keying me in on what this refers to?
Emerje wrote:So I ended up ordering a second one, number 18,221, and shortly after it was already up to 18,264. It's going to be an interesting weekend. I just hope that at some point they don't pull a Unicron and change the number "20,000+".
Emerje
Flashwave wrote:Epsilon Delta wrote:william-james88 wrote:Epsilon Delta wrote:I'm just thinking, if it was a Bumblebee or an Optimus Prime under $50, I could understand marketing to the parents. The fact that it's around $200 (after taxes) of an unrecognizable character (to a parent that would be "shoppinging off the ads" to find a gift for their child), it just really doesn't make sense. I would be very interested to know how many parents with no affinity for Transformers backed this because they were looking for a gift for their kid that likes Transformers. I need stats Hasbro
What makes no sense to me is that this toy comes out in 2022 and we don't have a sure date.
Parents do make big purchases for their kids, but it's usually for special events and it,s of things they know they want then. Asking parents to spend 200$ for a toy released sometime next year with no guarantee that their kid will still be into it then? Just feels like a charade to make it seem like they are still a fully family friendly company and are not dedicating themselves to just fans, for even this particular product.
I didn't even think about it not coming out until next year. Kids' tastes are very fickle. My son is going from Transformers, to Beyblades, to Power Rangers, to Pokemon and back again. It changes weekly. You can't buy anything unless you plan on giving it to them right away because you wait too long and they might not be into it anymore.
I too want to know who the parents are throwing $200 around because they read an ad, and see if they want to adopt me. They really should word it "Parents, collectors, enthusiasts..." Are they just trying to fool... I'm not sure... Themselves?
I always assumed its a required legal disclaimer. We have kids rhat browse this site , see the postings, this is one of those "ask your parents..." Type things that Hasbro has to include
CyclonusG1 wrote:Even more so here with Star Saber being so obscure that there's a contingency of adult fans who have grown up with Transformers since the 80s who have no idea who Star Saber is.
sol magnus wrote:Emerje wrote:So I ended up ordering a second one, number 18,221, and shortly after it was already up to 18,264. It's going to be an interesting weekend. I just hope that at some point they don't pull a Unicron and change the number "20,000+".
Emerje
They didn't do it for Galactus...I think we're good.
-Kanrabat- wrote:sol magnus wrote:Emerje wrote:So I ended up ordering a second one, number 18,221, and shortly after it was already up to 18,264. It's going to be an interesting weekend. I just hope that at some point they don't pull a Unicron and change the number "20,000+".
Emerje
They didn't do it for Galactus...I think we're good.
I don't get it.
You mean they displayed the number of backed units as "number+" instead of showing the precise amount?
TF-fan kev777 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:sol magnus wrote:Emerje wrote:So I ended up ordering a second one, number 18,221, and shortly after it was already up to 18,264. It's going to be an interesting weekend. I just hope that at some point they don't pull a Unicron and change the number "20,000+".
Emerje
They didn't do it for Galactus...I think we're good.
I don't get it.
You mean they displayed the number of backed units as "number+" instead of showing the precise amount?
Go on Pulse and look for yourself under the Haslab tab. Galactus shows they had 31520 not 30000+
Emerje wrote:o.supreme wrote:You are not the only one. I wanted to know as well. Will was doing some research. The numbers were just guesstimated (It would be nice if Hasbro actually told us), but I think we were guessing somewhere in the neighborhood of 50K units for a Titan, and 100K for a CC. Of course those would probably vary slightly depending on how well the previous one sold. Having to do a 2nd (even if much smaller) run like Omega Supreme and Scorponok is a good sign as opposed to going on clearance like Fort Max or Trypticon (*though to be fair I think Tryp was more of a distribution issue. If Walmart and Target chose to carry it at the time , not just TRU, it probably wouldn't have ended up at Ollies for $40)
Yeah, a lot of Trypticon's problems came from TRU closing. Everyone in the industry, including Hasbro, thought other retailers would step in to pick up the slack. There were reports of stores that don't have toy sections starting new ones, traditional retailers expanding their toy aisles and Amazon taking in more orders. Probably that last one was the only one that happened as they ended up with a glut of Trypticons, but Hasbro didn't get the B&M orders they needed for casual buyers, impulse buyers and parents and had to liquidate their stock which must have been pretty excessive. Hasbro's new plan to reduce the initial stock, monitor demand and then restock nearly a year later if needed is probably the right move for them.
Now, that said.
STAND UNLOCKED! currently sitting at 17,550!
Emerje
william-james88 wrote:Epsilon Delta wrote:I'm just thinking, if it was a Bumblebee or an Optimus Prime under $50, I could understand marketing to the parents. The fact that it's around $200 (after taxes) of an unrecognizable character (to a parent that would be "shoppinging off the ads" to find a gift for their child), it just really doesn't make sense. I would be very interested to know how many parents with no affinity for Transformers backed this because they were looking for a gift for their kid that likes Transformers. I need stats Hasbro
What makes no sense to me is that this toy comes out in 2022 and we don't have a sure date.
Parents do make big purchases for their kids, but it's usually for special events and it's of things they know they want then. Asking parents to spend 200$ for a toy released sometime next year with no guarantee that their kid will still be into it then? Just feels like a charade to make it seem like they are still a fully family friendly company and are not dedicating themselves to just fans, for even this particular product.
Unless Hasbro is talking to parents of 30 year olds who still live with them in the basement.
Flashwave wrote:00:24:33 left to get 893 more backers. C'mon people, I NEEDZ MY SHIELD.
-Kanrabat- wrote:Are Japan's and 3P orders even counted yet? Because I'm sure we are already WAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY past the 20K mark at this point.
Also, for those on the fence... DAFOK ARE YOU WAITING FOR?
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