The Energon Pub

Well, my hope now is that we get Road Caesar with the same Brainmaster style, and maybe a Commander class Powermaster Prime and a leader class Godbomber

They got this funded pretty quickly, compared to other projects like Unicron. With Unicron it seemed like they had to drag people, kicking and screaming, to get all the donations they needed. I guess people just like "Victory Saber" better....

Price had a LOT to do with it as well. Unicron was 3X the price of the VS set. There is no doubt that Unicron is universally a more well known character in TF Fiction than VS. But sometimes less is more.

DeathReviews wrote:They got this funded pretty quickly, compared to other projects like Unicron. With Unicron it seemed like they had to drag people, kicking and screaming, to get all the donations they needed. I guess people just like "Victory Saber" better....

It also has to do with the price. Unicron was more than three times more expensive than Victory Saber. People find it easier to drop $180 than $600, especially when there's no $500 Masterpiece Optimus Prime from Takara toy to purchase at the same time.

Sabrblade wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:They got this funded pretty quickly, compared to other projects like Unicron. With Unicron it seemed like they had to drag people, kicking and screaming, to get all the donations they needed. I guess people just like "Victory Saber" better....

It also has to do with the price. Unicron was more than three times more expensive than Victory Saber. People find it easier to drop $180 than $600, especially when there's no $500 Masterpiece Optimus Prime from Takara toy to purchase at the same time.

You can say that again. For ONE Unicron, you get more than 3 Victory Sabers. I shied away from Unicron but I didn't hesitate to back two Victory Saber sets.

Sabrblade wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:They got this funded pretty quickly, compared to other projects like Unicron. With Unicron it seemed like they had to drag people, kicking and screaming, to get all the donations they needed. I guess people just like "Victory Saber" better....

It also has to do with the price. Unicron was more than three times more expensive than Victory Saber. People find it easier to drop $180 than $600, especially when there's no $500 Masterpiece Optimus Prime from Takara toy to purchase at the same time.

I'd say pricewise it's somewhere in the range of more to everything to do with it. Popular as Star Saber is in some circles, name recognition isn't even a contest.

Has there been any official announcement that the project ended? I haven't seen an email or anything on social media from hasbro. I am still even seeing ads saying to support it.

Nothing from Hasbro in the form of an email, but on Pulse it has move into In Production status, which is essentially confirmation.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Nothing from Hasbro in the form of an email, but on Pulse it has move into In Production status, which is essentially confirmation.

My card also got charged. I'm sure I'm not alone.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Nothing from Hasbro in the form of an email, but on Pulse it has move into In Production status, which is essentially confirmation.

My card also got charged. I'm sure I'm not alone.

Two of my cards got charged. I think 20 some thousand other people got charged too.

Well I did go in for a second Victory Saber, so knowing my luck this will be the absolute worst figure ever made in the HISTORY of Transformers, and these will only be worth pennies on the dollar on the aftermarket.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Well I did go in for a second Victory Saber, so knowing my luck this will be the absolute worst figure ever made in the HISTORY of Transformers, and these will only be worth pennies on the dollar on the aftermarket.

Dont put that stuff in the atmosphere, man.

sol magnus wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Well I did go in for a second Victory Saber, so knowing my luck this will be the absolute worst figure ever made in the HISTORY of Transformers, and these will only be worth pennies on the dollar on the aftermarket.

Dont put that stuff in the atmosphere, man.

Oh God, what have I done?

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Well I did go in for a second Victory Saber, so knowing my luck this will be the absolute worst figure ever made in the HISTORY of Transformers, and these will only be worth pennies on the dollar on the aftermarket.

I don't think it ill be a bad figure.
But I do think we won't reap the same aftermarket margins we saw with Unicron. Because this was a much cheaper set, buying another (or a third) to later sell and offset the costs was a common strategy. I see more people that did that than people who did not. So that means there will be a lot on the aftermarket.

This still remains a limited figure, so it will always have that going for it and there are people who will want it then that arent even collecting now. I'm sure we will all be able to sell ours, but I don't think it will be at the margins some were hoping. I'm thinking maybe $300 on the aftermarket in terms of going rate (ie, "sold" on e-bay).

My goal is indeed just to have a "free" Victory Saber in the end by buying two. I really don't plan to get a house with it or something.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Well I did go in for a second Victory Saber, so knowing my luck this will be the absolute worst figure ever made in the HISTORY of Transformers, and these will only be worth pennies on the dollar on the aftermarket.

Dont put that stuff in the atmosphere, man.

Oh God, what have I done?

You spoke negativity into existence, main man. In life (not just Haslab figures) that just limits you. In addition to collecting Transformers I dabble in philosophy.

As has been said above, while it probably won't reach Unicron levels of absurdity, it will likely always yield you a good bit on the aftermarket. Some timing may be required as there will be a lot of em out there, but I'm betting you can always expect to have your keeper version paid for, which is the main reason people got more than one.

In a less pragmatic idea, the various modes and configurations of the figure for a dedicated Victory Saber display would require you to buy more than the 5 you're even allowed to buy, but I'm sure it would be a cool display in someone's collection.

They must have added the TakaraTomy Mall orders since the number has jumped up to 27,372.

Sabrblade wrote:They must have added the TakaraTomy Mall orders since the number has jumped up to 27,372.

Damn!

It would be nice if they'd throw in a special bonus. Maybe a full color collector box and hardcover full color instructions booklet with clear and detailed illustrations? Akin to what Lego do with their Idea and Architecture sets.

Anything as an additional *Thank you* would be nice for sure. I'm glad it all worked out, and I understand the logistics of tallying up orders from many other sources especially from other countries is a challenge that would take some time. However I wonder if Hasbro had a backup plan? Or at least a way to estimate the # of TT orders quicker.

I mean, lets say for the sake of argument, time ended with only 19,500 backers. Some fans would be pretty upset (perhaps not realizing that TT orders hadn't been counted yet), and to leave them all in the dark for 2 days could have been bad.

I mean I'm pretty sure Transformers are the only Haslab projects that include TT (Honestly, I have no idea who has the license to Star Wars or Marvel toys in Japan, but I'm guessing not a lot of other Haslab projects had as high demand in Japan as the 2 Transformers ones) But Marvel and Star Wars are so big in NA alone, let alone the res of the world, it more than makes up for it.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:They must have added the TakaraTomy Mall orders since the number has jumped up to 27,372.

Damn!

It would be nice if they'd throw in a special bonus. Maybe a full color collector box and hardcover full color instructions booklet with clear and detailed illustrations? Akin to what Lego do with their Idea and Architecture sets.

For all we know the packaging may already be special and colorful.

sol magnus wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Well I did go in for a second Victory Saber, so knowing my luck this will be the absolute worst figure ever made in the HISTORY of Transformers, and these will only be worth pennies on the dollar on the aftermarket.

Dont put that stuff in the atmosphere, man.

Oh God, what have I done?

You spoke negativity into existence, main man. In life (not just Haslab figures) that just limits you. In addition to collecting Transformers I dabble in philosophy.

As has been said above, while it probably won't reach Unicron levels of absurdity, it will likely always yield you a good bit on the aftermarket. Some timing may be required as there will be a lot of em out there, but I'm betting you can always expect to have your keeper version paid for, which is the main reason people got more than one.

In a less pragmatic idea, the various modes and configurations of the figure for a dedicated Victory Saber display would require you to buy more than the 5 you're even allowed to buy, but I'm sure it would be a cool display in someone's collection.

I think it was just a cute little goof, not meant to be taken as actual negativity. (Of course I don't want to speak for Mr.Chuck.)

Chriphord wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Well I did go in for a second Victory Saber, so knowing my luck this will be the absolute worst figure ever made in the HISTORY of Transformers, and these will only be worth pennies on the dollar on the aftermarket.

Dont put that stuff in the atmosphere, man.

Oh God, what have I done?

You spoke negativity into existence, main man. In life (not just Haslab figures) that just limits you. In addition to collecting Transformers I dabble in philosophy.

As has been said above, while it probably won't reach Unicron levels of absurdity, it will likely always yield you a good bit on the aftermarket. Some timing may be required as there will be a lot of em out there, but I'm betting you can always expect to have your keeper version paid for, which is the main reason people got more than one.

In a less pragmatic idea, the various modes and configurations of the figure for a dedicated Victory Saber display would require you to buy more than the 5 you're even allowed to buy, but I'm sure it would be a cool display in someone's collection.

I think it was just a cute little goof, not meant to be taken as actual negativity. (Of course I don't want to speak for Mr.Chuck.)

I just suffer from Murphy's law. By the way, since somebody asked, everyone has the rights to Star Wars in Japan. Bandai, Takara, and Hot Toys all make figures and such.