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[Stargrave]

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[Chriphord]

What numbers are people thinking that we'll get from this news about EB Games and Zing? Does anyone think that once the word gets out that we'll get an significant number of backers (like an extra 2K) from Australia?

[DarthFoozar]

That's right, even better than the HasLab crowdfund itself! Here's the deal: the price is only $848 AUD which is about $575 USD, the same exact price as HasLab is asking at the current exchange rate. All that they asks for is a $100 AUD deposit (refundable if the crowdfund fails), while HasLab expects the full price upfront.

False. HasLab does not charge anything up front. There is no deposit, and no money is expected unless the crowdfund is completely fulfilled. It is right in the agreement. I am not sure if this is a misunderstanding on the part of the poster, but it needs to be noted. Of course, you might be referring to overseas sales only, in which case I apologize for misunderstanding you.

[william-james88]

That's right, even better than the HasLab crowdfund itself! Here's the deal: the price is only $848 AUD which is about $575 USD, the same exact price as HasLab is asking at the current exchange rate. All that they asks for is a $100 AUD deposit (refundable if the crowdfund fails), while HasLab expects the full price upfront.

False. HasLab does not charge anything up front. There is no deposit, and no money is expected unless the crowdfund is completely fulfilled. It is right in the agreement. I am not sure if this is a misunderstanding on the part of the poster, but it needs to be noted. Of course, you might be referring to overseas sales only, in which case I apologize for misunderstanding you.

By up front, he meant later this month if the project is a go. Australia doesnt have to pay more than 100$ until the toy is released (i think)

[Stargrave]

Found this on Twitter and thought it was funny;

[ZeroWolf]

That's amazing

[Emerje]

That's right, even better than the HasLab crowdfund itself! Here's the deal: the price is only $848 AUD which is about $575 USD, the same exact price as HasLab is asking at the current exchange rate. All that they asks for is a $100 AUD deposit (refundable if the crowdfund fails), while HasLab expects the full price upfront.

False. HasLab does not charge anything up front. There is no deposit, and no money is expected unless the crowdfund is completely fulfilled. It is right in the agreement. I am not sure if this is a misunderstanding on the part of the poster, but it needs to be noted. Of course, you might be referring to overseas sales only, in which case I apologize for misunderstanding you.

By up front, he meant later this month if the project is a go. Australia doesnt have to pay more than 100$ until the toy is released (i think)

Correct. Paying in full in August 2019 instead of at release in 2021 is paying upfront, there's mo other way to describe it.

Emerje

[Sabrblade]

Found this on Twitter and thought it was funny;

Heh, 100 years ago was also both the year after World War I ended, and nine years after the wizard went to Oz.

[william-james88]

Found this on Twitter and thought it was funny;

Heh, 100 years ago was also both the year after World War I ended, and nine years after the wizard went to Oz.

Wasnt the wizard already in Oz and Dorothy was the one who arrived?

[Burn]

So, we only have to put in $100 at first but then how does the rest get paid? Do we have to immediately after it gets funded?

Nope. Not until he's ready for release. So we have a good 18 months to put the money aside.
(I have already renamed an old account I wasn't using to "The Chaos Bringer")

PLUS, it's in partnership directly with Hasbro with any pre-orders going towards the overall 8,000 total required.

Is this confirmed anywhere? I want to be absolutely sure this is the case.

EB Games in partnership with Hasbro is giving you the opportunity to preorder the Cybertron Unicron figure locally, here in Australia, with all preorders counted towards the crowdfunding 'Backers' target. For this future to become a reality, Hasbro requires 8,000 backers worldwide and every order placed counts to this target! You have until August 31st so get your preorder today!

From here. Zing says the exact same thing, just changed the company name.

I thought the HasLab stuff was only available for funding in the US though?
IT almost looks like there are a number of places putting together orders for if the crowd funding goes through but aren't including in the crowdfunding.

EB Games/Zing have been building a relationship with Hasbro. They're the first non-US major retailer to come on board with HasLab so here's hoping other major retailers in other countries get in as well.
(Of course, Hasbro should have had this sorted BEFORE launching the campaign)

What numbers are people thinking that we'll get from this news about EB Games and Zing? Does anyone think that once the word gets out that we'll get an significant number of backers (like an extra 2K) from Australia?

lol ... no. I'd be surprised if we even contribute 1,000.

[Sabrblade]

Found this on Twitter and thought it was funny;

Heh, 100 years ago was also both the year after World War I ended, and nine years after the wizard went to Oz.

Wasnt the wizard already in Oz and Dorothy was the one who arrived?

She arrived after he did, as seen in the James Franco movie Disney made.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Australia definitely came out on the good end the deal, wow!

That's also awesome that they count towards the goal. Now if only other countries could get that kind of deal. If they did, we will make it for sure

[Percepter]

As mordhelm pointed out... The claim that you need Hasbro Pulse Premium to get free shipping is false. It is included in the 575 price.

-Percepter

[Burn]

FYI, a question was asked of EB Games. Their orders DO count towards the 8,000, BUT, they won't be giving those numbers to Hasbro until August 31st (AU time I imagine).

So Australian orders won't show up on the counter until the last day or so.

[Chriphord]

FYI, a question was asked of EB Games. Their orders DO count towards the 8,000, BUT, they won't be giving those numbers to Hasbro until August 31st (AU time I imagine).

So Australian orders won't show up on the counter until the last day or so.

So that is likely indicative of the other online retailers taking preorders for Unicron as well. Noice. It's a shame that it keeps us in the dark about the actual count, but still, Noice.

[Burn]

FYI, a question was asked of EB Games. Their orders DO count towards the 8,000, BUT, they won't be giving those numbers to Hasbro until August 31st (AU time I imagine).

So Australian orders won't show up on the counter until the last day or so.

So that is likely indicative of the other online retailers taking preorders for Unicron as well. Noice. It's a shame that it keeps us in the dark about the actual count, but still, Noice.

Not necessarily. EB Games/Zing are dealing directly with Hasbro, we know this for fact. The online retailers MAY be dealing with Hasbro, they may also just have individual employees ordering batches of five.

[Chriphord]

FYI, a question was asked of EB Games. Their orders DO count towards the 8,000, BUT, they won't be giving those numbers to Hasbro until August 31st (AU time I imagine).

So Australian orders won't show up on the counter until the last day or so.

So that is likely indicative of the other online retailers taking preorders for Unicron as well. Noice. It's a shame that it keeps us in the dark about the actual count, but still, Noice.

Not necessarily. EB Games/Zing are dealing directly with Hasbro, we know this for fact. The online retailers MAY be dealing with Hasbro, they may also just have individual employees ordering batches of five.

We know BBTS is. It can be assumed that TTM is as well, although I can't remember for sure on them.

[william-james88]

FYI, a question was asked of EB Games. Their orders DO count towards the 8,000, BUT, they won't be giving those numbers to Hasbro until August 31st (AU time I imagine).

So Australian orders won't show up on the counter until the last day or so.

So that is likely indicative of the other online retailers taking preorders for Unicron as well. Noice. It's a shame that it keeps us in the dark about the actual count, but still, Noice.

Not necessarily. EB Games/Zing are dealing directly with Hasbro, we know this for fact. The online retailers MAY be dealing with Hasbro, they may also just have individual employees ordering batches of five.

We know BBTS is. It can be assumed that TTM is as well, although I can't remember for sure on them.

We know BBTS is what? What was specifically said about bbts?

[chuckdawg1999]

What if they get more than 8,000 orders?

[Chriphord]

FYI, a question was asked of EB Games. Their orders DO count towards the 8,000, BUT, they won't be giving those numbers to Hasbro until August 31st (AU time I imagine).

So Australian orders won't show up on the counter until the last day or so.

So that is likely indicative of the other online retailers taking preorders for Unicron as well. Noice. It's a shame that it keeps us in the dark about the actual count, but still, Noice.

Not necessarily. EB Games/Zing are dealing directly with Hasbro, we know this for fact. The online retailers MAY be dealing with Hasbro, they may also just have individual employees ordering batches of five.

We know BBTS is. It can be assumed that TTM is as well, although I can't remember for sure on them.

We know BBTS is what? What was specifically said about bbts?

BBTS is working directly with Hasbro on this (sorry I thought context was enough to be non-specific in my English). I spoke to someone there a while back and they had said the product team at BBTS was working very closely with HasLab on this.

[william-james88]

FYI, a question was asked of EB Games. Their orders DO count towards the 8,000, BUT, they won't be giving those numbers to Hasbro until August 31st (AU time I imagine).

So Australian orders won't show up on the counter until the last day or so.

So that is likely indicative of the other online retailers taking preorders for Unicron as well. Noice. It's a shame that it keeps us in the dark about the actual count, but still, Noice.

Not necessarily. EB Games/Zing are dealing directly with Hasbro, we know this for fact. The online retailers MAY be dealing with Hasbro, they may also just have individual employees ordering batches of five.

We know BBTS is. It can be assumed that TTM is as well, although I can't remember for sure on them.

We know BBTS is what? What was specifically said about bbts?

BBTS is working directly with Hasbro on this (sorry I thought context was enough to be non-specific in my English). I spoke to someone there a while back and they had said the product team at BBTS was working very closely with HasLab on this.

But then why such a high premium on the toy compared to places that have actually announced are dealing directly with Hasbro? What you just wrote has enough ambiguity for me to doubt that its the same type of thing happening, if they were directly linked why wouldnt they write as such in their listing?

[Sabrblade]

What if they get more than 8,000 orders?

They will make and sell as many units as they get orders. Like, if they get 8,950 orders, they will make 8,950 Unicrons to fulfill those exact orders.

[Chriphord]

FYI, a question was asked of EB Games. Their orders DO count towards the 8,000, BUT, they won't be giving those numbers to Hasbro until August 31st (AU time I imagine).

So Australian orders won't show up on the counter until the last day or so.

So that is likely indicative of the other online retailers taking preorders for Unicron as well. Noice. It's a shame that it keeps us in the dark about the actual count, but still, Noice.

Not necessarily. EB Games/Zing are dealing directly with Hasbro, we know this for fact. The online retailers MAY be dealing with Hasbro, they may also just have individual employees ordering batches of five.

We know BBTS is. It can be assumed that TTM is as well, although I can't remember for sure on them.

We know BBTS is what? What was specifically said about bbts?

BBTS is working directly with Hasbro on this (sorry I thought context was enough to be non-specific in my English). I spoke to someone there a while back and they had said the product team at BBTS was working very closely with HasLab on this.

But then why such a high premium on the toy compared to places that have actually announced are dealing directly with Hasbro? What you just wrote has enough ambiguity for me to doubt that its the same type of thing happening, if they were directly linked why wouldnt they write as such in their listing?

I can't answer that, I can forward you the email response I got back from the customer support representative if you'd like. I don't have any idea as to why the markup would be so massive, but BBTS often does charge more than the average online retailer, but it is extreme.

[william-james88]

FYI, a question was asked of EB Games. Their orders DO count towards the 8,000, BUT, they won't be giving those numbers to Hasbro until August 31st (AU time I imagine).

So Australian orders won't show up on the counter until the last day or so.

So that is likely indicative of the other online retailers taking preorders for Unicron as well. Noice. It's a shame that it keeps us in the dark about the actual count, but still, Noice.

Not necessarily. EB Games/Zing are dealing directly with Hasbro, we know this for fact. The online retailers MAY be dealing with Hasbro, they may also just have individual employees ordering batches of five.

We know BBTS is. It can be assumed that TTM is as well, although I can't remember for sure on them.

We know BBTS is what? What was specifically said about bbts?

BBTS is working directly with Hasbro on this (sorry I thought context was enough to be non-specific in my English). I spoke to someone there a while back and they had said the product team at BBTS was working very closely with HasLab on this.

But then why such a high premium on the toy compared to places that have actually announced are dealing directly with Hasbro? What you just wrote has enough ambiguity for me to doubt that its the same type of thing happening, if they were directly linked why wouldnt they write as such in their listing?

I can't answer that, I can forward you the email response I got back from the customer support representative if you'd like. I don't have any idea as to why the markup would be so massive, but BBTS often does charge more than the average online retailer, but it is extreme.

I am glad you understand my doubt, I just wish to provide the best info when doing news and such. So yeah, you can copy paste the response you got and send it to me in a private message

[Stargrave]

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