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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:And if that wasn't enough, the Primes said that Optimus was their last descendent in the same scene.
and what message do you think that delivered to the lay person?
lets evaluate what was seen on screen in the segment,
boy running for his life, explosions everywhere, boy get seriously injured, soljers work despratly to save boys life.
We see them stop trying, they all see to say, he's dead.............and then we see a heavenly landscape, clouds and clear blue skys......theres a surreal aspect to what we are viewing.
Then we see the Primes.........the primes said early to be dead for thousands of years, they speak of things beyond basic understanding, they impart great wisdom and knowledge on the boy,tell him it was always his destiny to find a "holy" like sacred item, they tell the boy how to return life to an other.......
and then send him back to the real world.
It looks and sounds like a holy myth and a heaven story.
SlyTF1 wrote:I still don't see the problem with that...
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
Burn wrote:cotss2012 wrote:Burn wrote:I can't believe even this thread has devolved into "let's pick apart the flaws of the TF movies".
Yeah, it's not like I mentioned a few of them in the OP or anything
Yes but you were also discussing "Cars", and some where along the line that disappeared and became nothing more than another thread to take apart the Bay movies. Because we can never have enough of them apparently.
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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Dead Metal wrote:My friends I went to go see it with, who have no idea of Transformers and keep asking me questions about meaningless crap in these films, they didn't see robot heaven. They saw a vision of the dead Primes Sam had.
sorry, I just dont believe you, largely because you said they kept asking questions about "stupid stuff".Yes, people would view the dead Primes as angels, if they had the memory of a goldfish and forgot about the many times they where brought up and shown in the movie up to that point.
I have no idea what point your trying to make here.No mater how many times they mentioned a down/upload from the alspark, that vision lacked any sign of the technological and looked far to spiritual.Also I replied to your post, which to me, sounded like you questioned the thing about Sam having the knowledge of the Allspark. Upon reading the full post again, I see that you questioned the vision being a vision.
no, I didnt question any of it.I considered the possibility it was an allspark vision right from the start.
What I'm saying is that they failed to presented it that way.The scene was, visually, far to vague and open to interpretation.
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
Dead Metal wrote:who's up for a 3rd Cars movie?
Dead Metal wrote:who's up for a 3rd Cars movie?
RiddlerJ wrote:Each one will come with an autographed picture of Michael Bay sitting on top of a huge pile of money.
Dead Metal wrote:Examples of stupid questions:
Who's that silver car?
Who does that red guy have no legs?
Who are those guys that turn into the icecream truck?
Is that Jetfire guy from the cartoons?
Is Optimus going to stay dead?
Why is that scorpion alive again?
What is that cube?
Why can't the yellow car talk?
Whoa, that thin sharp guy is awesome, what's his name and what does he do?
Is that yellow car Hot-Shot?
Who's that small robot?
Also, I'm not going to discuss this any further with you, since you just shut out everything someone else says and you don't agree with.
And I'm sick of that.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
RiddlerJ wrote:Each one will come with an autographed picture of Michael Bay sitting on top of a huge pile of money.
SlyTF1 wrote:First of all, I'm sick and damn tired of TF fans playing stupid to magnify the absurdity of a simple moment. This "robot heaven" is called the Well of Allsparks. Sam didn't go to the Well. All the knowledge from the Allspark that had embedded itself in Sam's brain, which held the collective wisdom of the first 13 (or 7)produced a VISION in his damn brain. What the Primes knew was in HIS HEAD. And apparently he began to understand what the Allspark was trying to tell him all along, damnit!
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