The Energon Pub

by **Overwatch** » Sun May 13, 2018 12:36 am

Psychout wrote:
Those should totally be a reward so people can 'purchase' **** like altmodes and the like once they've saved up enough of them.

When I'm sober again, I'll see if that idea still makes sense.

Brilliant idea. Hand them out as CFC rewards at tye end of a round to the winners. Then set a value for alts/weapons to redeem them for. Ie 3 points for a custom alt character, 7 points for a custom named weapon, etc

News Credits: 42 · by **Psychout** » Sun May 13, 2018 1:36 am

Drunk me has the best ideas.

Wingz wrote:Congratulations, winners!

turbomagnus wrote:Scary part; it actually makes sense.

Sad part; I don't see any way it could be implemented without one of... you know, those 'programmer' guys... (which I strongly suspect are simply a myth perpetuated by old HMWers to play with the minds of newcomers...)

It's actually a phenomenal idea, in my opinion

I imagine it'd be implemented the same way Burn gave away the sharkticon alt modes So I doubt a mythical numberlord would be needed for that part. The list of rewards wouldn't be very large without a programmer, but it'd be doable.

Overwatch nailed what I was getting at.
We'd have to keep a list of who won what privately to prevent asshattery, but we do that anyway.
I'll look into it properly later this week.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sun May 13, 2018 2:14 am

You guys keep going on about a programmer but what language is the game written in? Also I think the points idea is great and might encourage more participation but we have to make sure the don't offer really unfair advantages. Otherwise those who don't play these tournaments will start complaining. That said, points will be given out to 2nd and 3rd places yes?

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sun May 13, 2018 3:16 am

ZeroWolf wrote:those who don't play these tournaments will start complaining.

Gotta be in it to win it.

It's pretty much the nature of games these days. You want to win something? You gotta participate.

News Credits: 42 · by **Psychout** » Sun May 13, 2018 5:28 am

Burn wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:those who don't play these tournaments will start complaining.

Gotta be in it to win it.

It's pretty much the nature of games these days. You want to win something? You gotta participate.

Exaxtly. The Campaign game is specifically written for forum posters only. Those who don't sign up get nothing.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sun May 13, 2018 6:09 am

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for this idea, I just tend to err on the side of caution from time to time.

News Credits: 42 · by **Psychout** » Sun May 13, 2018 6:56 am

Eh, we lost that years ago. If they want to join in then everyone is welcome. If they don't... their loss. :lol:

by **Wingz** » Sun May 13, 2018 6:27 pm

Essentially, this game is based around the community, and the CFC games are a fun medium for said community to interact and expand. Those who have no sense of community wouldn't be rewarded with a currency implemented for that purpose (to promote activity).

If I'm understanding your concern correctly, Zero, you're thinking of the shy/ultra-reclusive players or players without a lot of time to spend recording that would gladly sign up if they felt comfortable/free enough to do so (and not necessarily people who don't want to sign up). The response is that this is why there is such variation with the games. People without a desire to post much or who don't have the time to check logs might not want to play in an alt hunt like Sharkticonado or May the Fourth Be With You, but all they'd have to do to participate in a scalp hunt is sign up so kills from their characters count

It'll be slower for them, but not impossible.

Also, the more events people sneak into, the more comfortable they'll likely feel with joining more, so a reward system is good incentive all around, in my honest opinion.

by **S.o.L.** » Sun May 13, 2018 8:23 pm

Lvl. 0 bully :KREMZEEK:

Good job Phasewing and High Command, level 2 came down to the wire.

ZeroWolf wrote:A weeks worth of sending 6 level 1s and I only ever took down one bot ah well, what can you do? Got a full team of lvl 1s to whip into shape now before the next event.

The Deceptiwolves grow stronger... :-s

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Mon May 14, 2018 3:29 am

@Servant of light: ...and they are getting stronger all the time ;-)

Feral Eyes is quite near lvl 2 now.

@Wingz yeah but also the players who don't want to do these things but expect there to be a level playing field for those who don't participate versus those that do. Now the good news is I suspect the percentage of players who would act like this to be miniscule. I mean I think a large amount probably didn't know the tournaments were on! Isn't there a way to send messages out so it appears on the page were your recent mission results are? There is a heading there for different messages.

As I said before, I think this is a great idea and I wonder if there is other ways to expand it as well...aside from end of year awards :lol:

by **Overwatch** » Mon May 14, 2018 4:00 am

ZeroWolf wrote:
@Wingz yeah but also the players who don't want to do these things but expect there to be a level playing field for those who don't participate versus those that do. Now the good news is I suspect the percentage of players who would act like this to be miniscule. I mean I think a large amount probably didn't know the tournaments were on! Isn't there a way to send messages out so it appears on the page were your recent mission results are? There is a heading there for different messages.

The simple way to do it would be award a point for signing up, regardless of your result.

Also, the rewards would not create an uneven playing field. I mean you can buy weapons that are equal or better to the customs, it's just a name change. Likewise, pasting a new picture over an alt class doesn't change the alt - a tank class with a plane picture, for example, works the same as any other tank.

Also the tournaments are posted to the News section for the whole site to see.

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Mon May 14, 2018 6:42 am

The whole point of these is to get people to engage. If they don't engage, then they don';t get anything.

by **Phasewing** » Mon May 14, 2018 8:29 am

Thanks SoL! Wasn't honestly expecting to win a bracket because felt like my characters would just act like bricks and do nothing at times. lol.

ZeroWolf wrote:Isn't there a way to send messages out so it appears on the page were your recent mission results are? There is a heading there for different messages.

I think the news section on the HMW home page has been borked for a good long time. Hence why the seib news crew does pieces instead.

News Credits: 7 · by **High Command** » Mon May 14, 2018 9:50 am

Servant of Light wrote:Lvl. 0 bully
Good job Phasewing and High Command, level 2 came down to the wire.

It was damn close!

Pleased to see another win for team Con. Shame about the wider issue at hand which is the lack of targets Bot players. I know timezones are always an issue but I'm certain I didn't fulfill the 12 hour timeout limit, despite my best efforts! Evenings for me are usually fine for opposition but deploying before work of a morning is often all empty missions.

Good to see people take all the 503 errors and alt modes not displaying obstacles in their stride though.

Answers on the back of a postcard for how to get more new players or old ones out of retirement...

by **turbomagnus** » Mon May 14, 2018 10:13 am

High Command wrote:Answers on the back of a postcard for how to get more new players or old ones out of retirement...

I presume bribery, blackmail, kidnapping and such are out of consideration as usual? >:oP

News Credits: 7 · by **High Command** » Mon May 14, 2018 10:59 am

turbomagnus wrote:
High Command wrote:Answers on the back of a postcard for how to get more new players or old ones out of retirement...

I presume bribery, blackmail, kidnapping and such are out of consideration as usual?

Hah, Bots and their rules...

by **Bun-Bun** » Mon May 14, 2018 11:09 am

High Command wrote:
turbomagnus wrote:
High Command wrote:Answers on the back of a postcard for how to get more new players or old ones out of retirement...

I presume bribery, blackmail, kidnapping and such are out of consideration as usual?

Hah, Bots and their rules...

Those options are considered automatically implied.

We're looking for other options on top of those.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Mon May 14, 2018 11:27 am

The points and rewards system I think is the best bet outside of mind control, which I think the cia still have the patent on (obviously using to the full effect of making people believe certain countries actually exist)

by **sumowrestler** » Mon May 14, 2018 11:57 am

When I first came back a couple weeks ago, I thought about mass PM to any former of my Bots friends from way back when would they been AWC or Maximal. The problem is there are probably several who don't pay attention to PM anymore. Then there are those who do play because I see them in the missions but don't ever post for whatever the reason. General Incursion is one of those Bot players who I see often in my missions but as far as I know has yet to post in these forums. With summer time coming, it is totally possible we see an uptick in activity due to those students will be out of school.

by **Phasewing** » Mon May 14, 2018 7:58 pm

sumowrestler wrote:When I first came back a couple weeks ago, I thought about mass PM to any former of my Bots friends from way back when would they been AWC or Maximal. The problem is there are probably several who don't pay attention to PM anymore. Then there are those who do play because I see them in the missions but don't ever post for whatever the reason. General Incursion is one of those Bot players who I see often in my missions but as far as I know has yet to post in these forums. With summer time coming, it is totally possible we see an uptick in activity due to those students will be out of school.

No harm in sending out a mass pm to oldies, it's better than standing around hoping someone comes back.

Like steve2275 on Facebook · by **steve2275** » Mon May 14, 2018 8:27 pm

i just hope they dont feel forced to play

by **Phasewing** » Mon May 14, 2018 8:43 pm

steve2275 wrote:i just hope they dont feel forced to play

Pretty much like this: if they want to come back, they come back. They don't want to, they don't.

Force play is severely suboptimal...

News Credits: 2 · by **Zordon** » Wed May 16, 2018 2:39 pm

I've just come back in that last few weeks and I'm just enjoying setting up and sending in my team as and when I can. As for campaign and tournaments I'll probably sign up for the next one but I'll just run support for now.

As for prizes and rewards I'm easy either way as Burn, Psychout and others have said you have to be in it to win it. If I'm not signed up it's my loss, I'd still kick Decepticon but ;p

News Credits: 42 · by **Psychout** » Wed May 16, 2018 3:47 pm

It's good to have you back dude.

Fr the rest of you guys waiting for the closing of the tourney, apologies but I've been unable to put anything down as yet, my RL is chaotically busy (in a good way!) Hopefully I'll have a bit of time to create something fun for you all at the weekend with a nice twist thrown in to prepare you all for the huge event we have planned for June!

Until then, clear you schedules for mid June... there's a birthday coming!