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News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:51 pm

Maybe this is a little bit easier to read.

Sep. 19th: 134
Sep. 20th: 141
Sep. 21st: 150
Sep. 22nd: 160
Sep. 23rd: 170
Sep. 24th: 187
Sep. 25th: 201
Sep. 26th: 219

The current increase in backers a day needed is between 15 and 20.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:53 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
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Counterpunch wrote:At the moment of posting this, approximately 134 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 141 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 150 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 160 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 170 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 187 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 201 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 219 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

Is all that overquoting really necessary?

Is there any need for your off-topic post? Just scroll on, it's what a lot of us have to do with your posts.

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:34 pm

Burn wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:At the moment of posting this, approximately 134 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 141 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 150 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 160 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 170 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 187 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 201 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 219 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

Is all that overquoting really necessary?

Is there any need for your off-topic post? Just scroll on, it's what a lot of us have to do with your posts.

K

News Credits: 4 · by **Chriphord** » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:17 pm

Sabrblade wrote:This Allsparker's post expresses my sentiments about the deco almost exactly (click the pic for full size):
I wish the colors looked more like this.

Idk which one I like more. I definitely like the G1 accurate colors, but the pale yellow has grown on me. I definitely think we need to see some paint detailing they added on the chompy mouth though.

News Credits: 1 · by **Gauntlet101010** » Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:46 pm

Yeah, I can't explain the yellow either.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:06 pm

Comparison of the two decos (click each for full size):

Personally, I'd make a few minor tweaks here and there to the deco of the digibash, but on the whole, that digibash is much closer to how I'd prefer the deco to be.

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:28 pm

Got the 2010 Takara Unicron way back then for cheap. I didn't like how VIVID that orange was so I sold him at cost to a fallow Seibertronian just some weeks after I got it.

That's why I prefer the default Haslab colors compared to the digibash.

But the colors I like the most are the ones on the Amazon Unicron.
His orange is just right and his gray have that "premium" sheen to it.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:39 pm

I have a somewhat relevant scale-related question. In the animated movie, was Unicron officially the same size as Cybertron?

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:45 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:I have a somewhat relevant scale-related question. In the animated movie, was Unicron officially the same size as Cybertron?

From the movie itself:

Unicron is much smaller. That is, in bot mode. No idea how he was in planet mode.
Because scale in altmode =/= scale in bot mode in the G1-verse.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:48 pm

Immortal Starscream wrote:hasbro pulse just updated their splash page to put unicron back on top. its the pic of him eating galvatron again. Whats different this time is that the banner claims unicron weighs 19 lbs

They updated it a few days ago. It also has a new sense of urgency, especially the button.

And I much prefer the orange and gray over the yellow and blue.

Emerje

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:38 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:I have a somewhat relevant scale-related question. In the animated movie, was Unicron officially the same size as Cybertron?

From the movie itself:

Unicron is much smaller. That is, in bot mode. No idea how he was in planet mode.
Because scale in altmode =/= scale in bot mode in the G1-verse.

In planet mode, Cybertron's moons were big enough to fit into the full space of Unicron's maw just like Lithone did, making those moons probably about as big as Lithone was.

But what's more, while Unicron was smaller than Cybertron, Cybertron was much tinier than the Earth, as seen in "The Ultimate Doom", meaning that Unicron in the cartoon was probably even smaller than our very own Moon! :shock:

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:39 am

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:I have a somewhat relevant scale-related question. In the animated movie, was Unicron officially the same size as Cybertron?

From the movie itself:

Unicron is much smaller. That is, in bot mode. No idea how he was in planet mode.
Because scale in altmode =/= scale in bot mode in the G1-verse.

So if by some miracle this Unicron gets made, and there was a Cybertron/Primus to follow, would that figure be somewhat in scale with the Armada Unicron mold, if going by the scale from the movie?

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:59 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:So if by some miracle this Unicron gets made, and there was a Cybertron/Primus to follow, would that figure be somewhat in scale with the Armada Unicron mold, if going by the scale from the movie?

I'd like to see that. A brand new Cybertron mold. Because let's face it, the original Cybertron toy is far from perfect toy-wise and is pretty small compared to Armada Unicron.
It would need an update for sure.

I wonder what bot mode will it have though, in order to be "G1"?

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:16 am

Wouldn't the bot mode be based on the sketches that were made for the original drafts of the movie?

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:02 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:So if by some miracle this Unicron gets made, and there was a Cybertron/Primus to follow, would that figure be somewhat in scale with the Armada Unicron mold, if going by the scale from the movie?

I'd like to see that. A brand new Cybertron mold. Because let's face it, the original Cybertron toy is far from perfect toy-wise and is pretty small compared to Armada Unicron.
It would need an update for sure.

I wonder what bot mode will it have though, in order to be "G1"?

Well in the G1 comics Primus did resemble Rodimus a lot, even if his face looked like a rainbow in "planet mode."

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:03 pm

So, it would be COMICS Primus.

If it would kickstart making toys based on the Marvel G1 comics, it would be wicked cool. Enough Sunbow toons. Enough IDW. Give G1 Marvel some love!

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:44 am

I didn't realize there was a Primus in the G1 cartoon...

Speaking of Marvel, it would be amazing if this Unicron came with legends figures of Hook, Line, and Sinker.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:26 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:I didn't realize there was a Primus in the G1 cartoon...

Who said there was?

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:43 am

Primus didn't even have a body until the Unicron Trilogy. The creation myth only existed in the Marvel Comics. From which "Primus" was a silhouette in a brief montage of an abstract battle and a face on a wall. He never existed as a G1 figure. Even calling him a "character" prior to UT, is charitable.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:22 am

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Primus didn't even have a body until the Unicron Trilogy. The creation myth only existed in the Marvel Comics. From which "Primus" was a silhouette in a brief montage of an abstract battle and a face on a wall. He never existed as a G1 figure. Even calling him a "character" prior to UT, is charitable.

He became physically embodied temporarily when his spirit took possession of Emirate Xaaron and addressed the Cybertronians directly in Marvel G1 issues 74-75.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:55 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:I didn't realize there was a Primus in the G1 cartoon...
Who said there was?

The way -Kanrabat- emphasized the comics earlier made me think he thought I was talking about Primus from the cartoon, which I wasn't, because there isn't one. Maybe I misunderstood...?

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:58 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Primus didn't even have a body until the Unicron Trilogy. The creation myth only existed in the Marvel Comics. From which "Primus" was a silhouette in a brief montage of an abstract battle and a face on a wall. He never existed as a G1 figure. Even calling him a "character" prior to UT, is charitable.

He was a character in the comics as much as Unicron or any other Transformer was.

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:00 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:I didn't realize there was a Primus in the G1 cartoon...
Who said there was?
The way -Kanrabat- emphasized the comics earlier made me think he thought I was talking about Primus from the cartoon, which I wasn't, because there isn't one. Maybe I misunderstood...?

You did. I know no one talked about the cartoon. At best, there would have been concept art that was scrapped. The Marvel G1 comics is their own universe. Maybe there was something in there? There's also lots of story arks and original bots that would be nice to be made, like Zombie Starscream.

It's unfortunate that Primus was not even in the comics. At least, in a concrete form. That's why the "G1" bot mode of the 2010 Takara Primus is just a made-up OC.

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:19 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Primus didn't even have a body until the Unicron Trilogy. The creation myth only existed in the Marvel Comics. From which "Primus" was a silhouette in a brief montage of an abstract battle and a face on a wall. He never existed as a G1 figure. Even calling him a "character" prior to UT, is charitable.
He became physically embodied temporarily when his spirit took possession of Emirate Xaaron and addressed the Cybertronians directly in Marvel G1 issues 74-75.
He was a character in the comics as much as Unicron or any other Transformer was.

Yes, we all know this but there is a difference between having dialogue and being a character. Primus has vaguely one story, as Sabrblade noted, to his credit. Unicron in contrast had numerous Comic Book stories to flesh him out. Even someone like Scrounge had more characterisation in the Comics, than Primus ever did. He wasn't a non-entity like The Last Autobot, but he wasn't too far off.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:34 pm

Here we are, September 29th, the end of the month. In exactly 1 week, on October 6th, Haslab Unicron's deadline will come to a close, and it will be at that point that we find whether or not Unicron will go into production, or proceed on his way to oblivion.

So where does he stand right now?

Well, as of this story, Unicron stands at 5,753 backers. This number puts him currently about 2,247 shy with 7 days left in the campaign, meaning he needs an average of 321 backers a day to make his deadline, or he needs to have a very heavy influx of backers over the course of the New York Comic Con, which is next weekend.

Now, the current number of 5,753 backers appears to include approximately 4,200 backers who have committed from Hasbro Pulse, and approximately 1,500 who were added right before the original August 31st deadline that may have been from other online outlets such as BigBadToyStore, TFsource, and others. So this might not even be the exact number at this point in time, as other online retailer sources might not have submitted their final numbers.

And also at this point, we are still uncertain as to what sources actually count towards the 8,000 goal. Hasbro representatives stated at San Diego Comic Con that sources outside Pulse did not count (answered in response to a question about Takara Tomy's offering and promotion), but since then, Kapow Toys has stated that it will be contributing to the 8,000 goal, so we cannot be certain what sources will count and when exactly those numbers will be added into the Pulse total.

Either way, at this point in time, Unicron still needs about 2,250 backers, with 1 week to go. And we will find out around this time next week if he will make it.

If you still haven't backed this project but would like to, you can go and commit on Hasbro Pulse, any of our sponsors, Kapow Toys if you are in the UK, and EB Games or Zing if you are Australia.