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News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:32 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:As for how it looks, I have never owned the Optimus Primal figure (a regret, I know) but they never totally appealed to me, because no matter how much the robot mode head was altered, it never looked like the design in the show. The toy was "realistic" and the shows was... not, for lack of a better word.
What about this smaller one?

WHOOPS, that was super my bad :oops:

I meant the BEAST mode was never accurate to the show, and as I watched that forever as a kid, it was really important to me that the beast mode at least resemble the character I loved growing up.

News Credits: 1 · by **Rodimus Minor** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:14 am

What kind of sorcery be this his beast mode is so clean I see no pannels on it so how does the Transformation work. I am Sold. Next give me MP Dinobot Megatron Airazer Tarantualas, Screw it give me an Entire MP BW cast

News Credits: 2 · by **munkimus prime** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:38 am

Rodimus Minor wrote:What kind of sorcery be this his beast mode is so clean I see no pannels on it so how does the Transformation work. I am Sold. Next give me MP Dinobot Megatron Airazer Tarantualas, Screw it give me an Entire MP BW cast

My wallet would kill itself if Takara did that. It would be an awesome way for it to go however.

News Credits: 1 · by **SkyWarpsGhost** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:10 am

This will be the first MP figure since MP-01 that I've absolutely no interest in. I'm not a fan of Beast Wars (many have tried to turn me lol) in any guise, and this is doing nothing to change that.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:23 am

Rodimus Minor wrote:What kind of sorcery be this his beast mode is so clean I see no pannels on it so how does the Transformation work

It could be a nontransforming preproduction model for the figure rather than a painted prototype.

Website · by **MartianSpyGirl1996** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:06 pm

I can FINALLY experience the Masterpiece excitement!!!

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:09 pm

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote::x
I can FINALLY experience the Masterpiece excitement!!!

1 through 24 not doin it for ya? :-?

Website · by **MartianSpyGirl1996** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:59 pm

shajaki wrote:
MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote::x
I can FINALLY experience the Masterpiece excitement!!!
1 through 24 not doin it for ya?

Hell no. I can't stand geewun

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:16 pm

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:
shajaki wrote:
MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote::x
I can FINALLY experience the Masterpiece excitement!!!
1 through 24 not doin it for ya?
Hell no. I can't stand geewun

Huh... odd since everything besides BW and BM is G1 or G1ish...

Website · by **MartianSpyGirl1996** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:23 pm

shajaki wrote:
MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:
shajaki wrote:
MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote::x
I can FINALLY experience the Masterpiece excitement!!!
1 through 24 not doin it for ya?
Hell no. I can't stand geewun
Huh... odd since everything besides BW and BM is G1 or G1ish...

Exactly, which is why I only collect beasts and fembots and am finally excited about a Masterpiece release (although technically Road Rage excites me, but not to the level of this). I do really enjoy RiD01, Animated, and some of Prime and the '07 movie, and the '86 movie is awesome but the show makes me want to blow my brains out. The Unicron Trilogy turned me off to vehicle forms altogether. Waiting for P2V2 of the IDW comics since it has so many Beastie nods and fembots, plus I like "gay" characters. So that will probably be a G1 I enjoy

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:57 pm

In all seriousness, I've just really been itching for a toy that just looks like the following ever since 1996:

So if this MP can finally give me that, I'll gladly accept it no matter how unrealistic the beast mode is.

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:I can't stand geewun

Then you'd probably love this thread.

Website · by **MartianSpyGirl1996** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:39 pm

Sabrblade wrote:

Damn, that mockup is spot ON to this picture

by **phantom1592** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:25 am

I really hope they work in the 'traditional Optimus' facemask too. I always preferred that battle mask look to the 'robo-lips' that was his standard model

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 4:13 am

phantom1592 wrote:I really hope they work in the 'traditional Optimus' facemask too. I always preferred that battle mask look to the 'robo-lips' that was his standard model

Forget it. the goal of the MP line, especially since MP-10, is to be 100% cartoon accurate. So, it will be robo-lips all the way.
Maybe it will have a battlemask gimmick like for Cybertron Leader or something.

by **phantom1592** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 4:20 am

-Kanrabat- wrote:
phantom1592 wrote:I really hope they work in the 'traditional Optimus' facemask too. I always preferred that battle mask look to the 'robo-lips' that was his standard model

Forget it. the goal of the MP line, especially since MP-10, is to be 100% cartoon accurate. So, it will be robo-lips all the way.
Maybe it will have a battlemask gimmick like for Cybertron Leader or something.

Battle mask IS cartoon Accurate. At least some of the time. Standard look was lips, but when the battle got rough he'd pop the... I don't know what's that's even called?? mouth guard? Visor? Whatever the opposite of robo lips would be.

I'm sure he'll have the 'standard' head... but Bumblebee got an extra face, so I'm hoping he does too.

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 4:36 am

phantom1592 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
phantom1592 wrote:I really hope they work in the 'traditional Optimus' facemask too. I always preferred that battle mask look to the 'robo-lips' that was his standard model

Forget it. the goal of the MP line, especially since MP-10, is to be 100% cartoon accurate. So, it will be robo-lips all the way.
Maybe it will have a battlemask gimmick like for Cybertron Leader or something.

Battle mask IS cartoon Accurate. At least some of the time. Standard look was lips, but when the battle got rough he'd pop the... I don't know what's that's even called?? mouth guard? Visor? Whatever the opposite of robo lips would be.

I'm sure he'll have the 'standard' head... but Bumblebee got an extra face, so I'm hoping he does too.

Like I said, I think they'll do the battelemask gimmick as seen on Leader OP from Galaxy Force.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:29 am

Mouthplate. It's a mouthplate.

Website · by **MartianSpyGirl1996** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 5:27 pm

I prefer his lips... made him stand apart a little more from Prime

News Credits: 119 · by **megatronus** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 7:05 pm

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:I prefer his lips... made him stand apart a little more from Prime

I agree. It's how I remember him being, most of the time.
Maybe we'll get multiple face/mask options.

News Credits: 10 · by **Arctorro** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:34 pm

megatronus wrote:
MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:I prefer his lips... made him stand apart a little more from Prime

I agree. It's how I remember him being, most of the time.
Maybe we'll get multiple face/mask options.

Yep. To be honest I've always felt he looked kinda weird with the mouthplate and wished the toy had lips. Besides, every time he used the mouthplate it was gone in the next shot, even in the middle of a battle.

by **phantom1592** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:25 pm

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:I prefer his lips... made him stand apart a little more from Prime

I was the opposite. I liked every and any throwback to G1 they could give us. Honestly I really didn't like season 1 at all as the 'robot' to 'flesh' gimmick seemed dumb to me, and the 'reboot/remake' of good vs evil crashing on the planet just annoyed me. Once the plot started incorporating G1 aspects and delved more into overall story... it made it more of a sequel then a remake... I REALLY started to get into it. Absolutely LOVED season 3!

But yeah, that season one, I loved the mouthplate.

This is another interesting concept... Masterpiece line has been 'trying' to stay in scale with itself... and there was a MASSIVE shift in size from Optimus Prime and Optimus Primal... I really think masterpiece Beast Wars HAS to be it's own thing doesn't it??

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:32 pm

phantom1592 wrote:This is another interesting concept... Masterpiece line has been 'trying' to stay in scale with itself... and there was a MASSIVE shift in size from Optimus Prime and Optimus Primal... I really think masterpiece Beast Wars HAS to be it's own thing doesn't it??

If Primal would be in scale with MP-10 and the rest, he should be at most Cyberverse commander size or scout.

That's why MP-BW should be it's own thing.

Website · by **MartianSpyGirl1996** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:03 pm

phantom1592 wrote:
MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:I prefer his lips... made him stand apart a little more from Prime

I was the opposite. I liked every and any throwback to G1 they could give us. Honestly I really didn't like season 1 at all as the 'robot' to 'flesh' gimmick seemed dumb to me, and the 'reboot/remake' of good vs evil crashing on the planet just annoyed me. Once the plot started incorporating G1 aspects and delved more into overall story... it made it more of a sequel then a remake... I REALLY started to get into it. Absolutely LOVED season 3!

But yeah, that season one, I loved the mouthplate.

This is another interesting concept... Masterpiece line has been 'trying' to stay in scale with itself... and there was a MASSIVE shift in size from Optimus Prime and Optimus Primal... I really think masterpiece Beast Wars HAS to be it's own thing doesn't it??

I like Beast Wars for its own story to tell. I didn't need G1 to enjoy it. Same goes for Beast Machines... I don't need BW to enjoy it, but so many people compare it to that instead of appriciating it for what it has to say on its own. I can definitely say the same thing about BW in relation to G1.
And yeah, the MP-BW figures will be their own thing, but will they really stay in scale to one another? If they ever did a Blackarachnia, she'd be tiny, and Optimal Optimus would be a Titan class

News Credits: 119 · by **megatronus** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:07 pm

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:
phantom1592 wrote:
MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:I prefer his lips... made him stand apart a little more from Prime

I was the opposite. I liked every and any throwback to G1 they could give us. Honestly I really didn't like season 1 at all as the 'robot' to 'flesh' gimmick seemed dumb to me, and the 'reboot/remake' of good vs evil crashing on the planet just annoyed me. Once the plot started incorporating G1 aspects and delved more into overall story... it made it more of a sequel then a remake... I REALLY started to get into it. Absolutely LOVED season 3!

But yeah, that season one, I loved the mouthplate.

This is another interesting concept... Masterpiece line has been 'trying' to stay in scale with itself... and there was a MASSIVE shift in size from Optimus Prime and Optimus Primal... I really think masterpiece Beast Wars HAS to be it's own thing doesn't it??

I like Beast Wars for its own story to tell. I didn't need G1 to enjoy it. Same goes for Beast Machines... I don't need BW to enjoy it, but so many people compare it to that instead of appriciating it for what it has to say on its own. I can definitely say the same thing about BW in relation to G1.
And yeah, the BW-MP figures will be their own thing, but will they really stay in scale to one another? If they ever did a Blackarachnia, she'd be tiny, and Optimal Optimus would be a Titan class

Beast Wars occurs in the same universe/timeline as G1. So, in my view, it's not that one is needed to enjoy the other; rather, each is stronger for the existence of the other.