Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Hey, If Mindmaster survived then you should do just fine.
Sabrblade wrote:GROW UP, people!
Mindmaster wrote:Yeah, not understanding all the hate...
It's a new character, a new name, and a new vehicle. What is there to flame on?
Sabrblade wrote:A brand new character with a brand new name in a brand new form and a brand new identity? BLASPHEMY! TF4 should be crucified for ever daring to even consider doing something unique and original instead of recycling old existing names like we always get.
GROW UP, people!
MINDVVIPE wrote:New character, sweet car, nothing wrong here. Least they didn't do something stupid like make him Blurr, coz then the colours would be all wrong.
It's sad when the children act more like adults about their toys than the adults do.Kibble wrote:Sabrblade wrote:GROW UP, people!
He ironically said to a bunch of adults posting on a message board dedicated to children's toys...
Sorry, wasn't referring to your post, but the ones that were mad about his not being another recycled-name character. I'd imagine you'd still be cool with him being a new-named character if his name was different from "Stinger" but still new, right?Burn wrote:Sabrblade wrote:A brand new character with a brand new name in a brand new form and a brand new identity? BLASPHEMY! TF4 should be crucified for ever daring to even consider doing something unique and original instead of recycling old existing names like we always get.
GROW UP, people!
I don't like the name. It sounds silly. So I should GROW UP because of that?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
primematrix1986 wrote:I am about to turn into a Bayverse hater, if he doesn't stop trying to create his own cute little characters
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
PrymeStriker wrote:primematrix1986 wrote:I am about to turn into a Bayverse hater, if he doesn't stop trying to create his own cute little characters
So, what you're saying is...
Writers are not allowed to create their own characters, and must steal characters from everyone else's fiction in order to deliver the best story.
PrymeStriker wrote:primematrix1986 wrote:I am about to turn into a Bayverse hater, if he doesn't stop trying to create his own cute little characters
So, what you're saying is...
Writers are not allowed to create their own characters, and must steal characters from everyone else's fiction in order to deliver the best story.
primematrix1986 wrote:Yes, they are. I have been open to new change in the Bayverse, but I mean come on......seriously? Your going to make your own characters when the respective name of the movie is TRANSFORMERS? If your going to make your own characters, then make a different movie about it, so you don't take away from OUR vast universe of characters we love and know.
Yeah, and that was even at the expense of old characters, which doesn't seem to be the case here since we're still getting the likes of Optimus, Bumblebee, Hound, Grimlock, and more.MINDVVIPE wrote:primematrix1986 wrote:Yes, they are. I have been open to new change in the Bayverse, but I mean come on......seriously? Your going to make your own characters when the respective name of the movie is TRANSFORMERS? If your going to make your own characters, then make a different movie about it, so you don't take away from OUR vast universe of characters we love and know.
Don't be daft. The 1986 animated movie was almost all new characters, and it kicked ASS.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, and that was even at the expense of old characters, which doesn't seem to be the case here since we're still getting the likes of Optimus, Bumblebee, Hound, Grimlock, and more.MINDVVIPE wrote:primematrix1986 wrote:Yes, they are. I have been open to new change in the Bayverse, but I mean come on......seriously? Your going to make your own characters when the respective name of the movie is TRANSFORMERS? If your going to make your own characters, then make a different movie about it, so you don't take away from OUR vast universe of characters we love and know.
Don't be daft. The 1986 animated movie was almost all new characters, and it kicked ASS.
We get new characters all the time, primematrix1986. Ever since 1985, new characters just keep pouring in. Can you honestly think of any Transformers show, comic, or movie that didn't create their own new characters and only used old characters?
primematrix1986 wrote:I have been open to new change in the Bayverse, but I mean come on......seriously? Your going to make your own characters when the respective name of the movie is TRANSFORMERS?
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
PrymeStriker wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, and that was even at the expense of old characters, which doesn't seem to be the case here since we're still getting the likes of Optimus, Bumblebee, Hound, Grimlock, and more.MINDVVIPE wrote:primematrix1986 wrote:Yes, they are. I have been open to new change in the Bayverse, but I mean come on......seriously? Your going to make your own characters when the respective name of the movie is TRANSFORMERS? If your going to make your own characters, then make a different movie about it, so you don't take away from OUR vast universe of characters we love and know.
Don't be daft. The 1986 animated movie was almost all new characters, and it kicked ASS.
We get new characters all the time, primematrix1986. Ever since 1985, new characters just keep pouring in. Can you honestly think of any Transformers show, comic, or movie that didn't create their own new characters and only used old characters?
Exactly. Every Transformers show, comic, and movie included entirely new and original characters. Which makes this statement all the more ironic:primematrix1986 wrote:I have been open to new change in the Bayverse, but I mean come on......seriously? Your going to make your own characters when the respective name of the movie is TRANSFORMERS?
Making new characters is part of "Transformers." Padlock, Hot Shot, Airachnid, and Yoketron are prime examples, and Stinger is just another one of them.
primematrix1986 wrote:Yes, you are right. Trust me, I don't HATE the Bay movies, but I think they could be way better. In a comic or cartoon, they have time to develop that new character out. Plus, movies are visually better, even if the story like *cough ROTF cough* was bad, the eye candy was great. What my point is, that I want to see more original characters on the big screen so we can enjoy it more, rather than creating a NEW Transformer that could have been used as someone we actually know and relate to. That's like making The Avengers 2, but coming up with totally new characters, rather than giving us what we want - someone we know like Scarlet Witch, Ant-man etc. See my point?
Thing is, these movies give so little exposure to the robot characters as people instead of just as eye candy that there's little-to-no reason for us to care about any of them, regardless of whether they recycle existing names or have newly-created names. The robots are so disconnected from the audience on a personal and familiar level that there's hardly anything relatable about them. If one has only seen the films and hasn't read the Movieverse comics or novels yet (like myself), then there's not much for that person to get out of these Cybertronians aside from flashy special effects cool-sounding voices, and altmodes of varying tastes.primematrix1986 wrote:What my point is, that I want to see more original characters on the big screen so we can enjoy it more, rather than creating a NEW Transformer that could have been used as someone we actually know and relate to. That's like making The Avengers 2, but coming up with totally new characters, rather than giving us what we want - someone we know like Scarlet Witch, Ant-man etc. See my point?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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