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Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:10 am

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With recent revelations about the 14 ores, the 13 primes, and the 13 colonies and how they are supposed to be connected somehow, with the ores landing on the final resting places of the 13 primes and the colonies each being linked to a prime, I wrote up this list so we can attempt to make sense of the chaos. Comment below and let's talk!

The 13 Primes, the 13 Titans: How they line up.

Nexus Prime
*Titan: unknown, possibly the Earth Titan
*Artifact: Enigma of Combination
*Special type of Transformer related: Combiners
*Final Resting place: Cybertron (Earth for Enigma)

Onyx Prime
*Titan: Chela (Eukaris)
*Artifact: unknown
*Special type of Transformer Related: Beastformers from Beast Wars era
*Final Resting place: Killed by Shockwave on Cybertron in ancient times after Shockwave was pulled through the Dark Cybertron/Crystal City singularity. Shockwave then masqueraded as Onyx Prime throughout history.

Prima
*Titan: Emissary
*Artifact: Unclear (In Aligned Continuity, this was the Star Saber)
*Special type of Transformer Related: Not actually Transformers! Knights of the Solstar Order
*Final Resting place: Prima was killed by Megatronus on Tsiehshi, but Emissary crashed later on Elonia. Elonia has been consumed by Unicron.

Megatronus
*Titan: unknown
*Artifact: unknown
*Special type of Transformer Related: unknown
*Final Resting place: Killed by "Onyx Prime" (Shockwave) on Tsiehshi

Liege Maximo
*Titan: Vigilem/Carcer
*Artifact: unknown
*Special type of Transformer Related: unknown
*Final Resting place: Alive and Free

Solus Prime
*Titan: Caminus (Caminus)
*Artifact: Forge of Solus Prime
*Special type of Transformer Related: Camiens
*Final Resting place: unknown

Alpha Trion
*Titan: Metroplex
*Artifact: unknown
*Special type of Transformer Related: unknown
*Final Resting place: Apparent death occurred on Cybertron at the hands of "Onyx Prime" (Shockwave)

Alchemist Prime
*Titan: unknown
*Artifact: unknown
*Special type of Transformer Related: unknown
*Final Resting place: unknown

Micronus Prime
*Titan: Prion
*Artifact: unknown
*Special type of Transformer Related: Minicons
*Final Resting place: Microspace (abandoned his colony planet which was also named Prion, then went into or created Microspace)

Vector Prime
*Titan: unknown
*Artifact: unknown
*Special type of Transformer Related: unknown
*Final Resting Place: Maybe LV-117?

Amalgamous Prime
*Titan: unknown
*Artifact: unknown
*Special type of Transformer Related: unknown
*Final Resting place: unknown

Quintus Prime
*Titan: unknown
*Artifact: unknown
*Special type of Transformer Related: unknown (maybe Quintessons)
*Final Resting Place: Maybe LV-117? (Spotlight: Wheelie)

The Arisen
*Titan: unknown
*Artifact: unknown
*Special type of Transformer Related: unknown
*Final Resting place: unknown

Titans named but not associated with Prime Yet:
*Navitas (Velocitron)
*Devisium Planet Titan (micromasters)

Shockwave's Ores: The resting Place of the 13 Primes/13 colonies?
*Ore 1: Time (LV-117)
*Ore 2: Death AKA Alchemical Virus (Gorlam Prime)
*Ore 3: unknown
*Ore 4: unknown
*Ore 5: unknown
*Ore 6: Cold (Arduria)
*Ore 7: Change
*Ore 8: Destruction (Tsiehshi)
*Ore 9: unknown
*Ore 10: unknown
*Ore 11: unknown
*Ore 12: Name unknown, bonds to other lifeforms becoming a symbiotic suit of crystalline armor (Elonia)
*Ore 13: Super Power (Earth)
*Ore 14: Resurrection (Cybertron)

Ores that Match Primes
*Earth = Nexus Prime Artifact
*Maybe LV-117 = Quintus Prime? (Spotlight: Wheelie) or Vector Prime?

Other anomalies at this point
*Carcer/Vigilem registered as Tempo to Metroplex, so what happened to Tempo?
*Antilla, The rust colony. Titan and people rusted out. Titan and Prime unknown
*Micronus Prime in microspace. Where did Shockwave's ore go for him then? Or is ore the entropy cloud consuming microspace?
*Elonia(ROM) - could be ore location/colony?
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Re: IDW The 13 Primes, Titans, and Colonies

Postby Va'al » Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:50 am

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A good resource, and one that we're bound to be re-exploring VERY VERY SOON.

Nice work D-Max! :APPLAUSE:
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Re: IDW The 13 Primes, Titans, and Colonies

Postby ScottyP » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:03 pm

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Primes that don't work:
*Alpha Trion: stayed on Cybertron (Ore 14 doesn't count)
*Micronus Prime: hidden in Microspace, not on a planet
Alpha Trion's Titan is indeed Metroplex (The Metroplex, not the Metrotitan on Earth that looks a ton like him. Hooray for that very quick backtrack on their part!) We learn this implicitly in the Ironhide mini-series, and also that A3 left after the swarm invasion - though I could be misremembering that latter part at the immediate moment. His whole schtick has always been that he stuck around though, so it definitely could work. Plus, with some of the goings on out in places like the Sea of Rust, it's very possible there's some kind of ore doing something on Cybertron.

As for Micronus Prime, I'd bet LV-117 has something to do with that and not some of the other places mentioned. Maybe the Quints were there at one point, but doubtful it was a home or artifact laden place. Why? Because he's got stuff going on with Microspace and Time Is All Things ;)
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Re: IDW The 13 Primes, Titans, and Colonies

Postby Va'al » Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:29 am

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ScottyP wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Primes that don't work:
*Alpha Trion: stayed on Cybertron (Ore 14 doesn't count)
*Micronus Prime: hidden in Microspace, not on a planet


As for Micronus Prime, I'd bet LV-117 has something to do with that and not some of the other places mentioned. Maybe the Quints were there at one point, but doubtful it was a home or artifact laden place. Why? Because he's got stuff going on with Microspace and Time Is All Things ;)


True, and they keep going on about that in the Micronauts series/annual, though Micronus is just sort of hanging in the background as creator (unless I've missed something crucial).
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Re: IDW The 13 Primes, Titans, and Colonies

Postby ScottyP » Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:51 pm

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Va'al wrote:True, and they keep going on about that in the Micronauts series/annual, though Micronus is just sort of hanging in the background as creator (unless I've missed something crucial).
You're correct on that. He's only alive if you go back in time through Titan Cityspeaker magic to talk to him while being tortured by Shazraella, I suppose.
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Re: IDW The 13 Primes, Titans, and Colonies

Postby ScottyP » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:43 pm

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I think Ore 7 might have gone to Elonia, and I'd bet that it'll have something to do with Amalgamous Prime. Alternately, Gage and Ryall chose a word in the Rom Annual that has me confused, and it's all just happenstance.
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Re: IDW The 13 Primes, Titans, and Colonies

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:57 pm

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ScottyP wrote:I think Ore 7 might have gone to Elonia, and I'd bet that it'll have something to do with Amalgamous Prime. Alternately, Gage and Ryall chose a word in the Rom Annual that has me confused, and it's all just happenstance.

So you're thinking the Dire Wraiths are products of Ore 7? I can see ore 7 and amalgamous definitely
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Re: IDW The 13 Primes, Titans, and Colonies

Postby ScottyP » Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:43 pm

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ScottyP wrote:I think Ore 7 might have gone to Elonia, and I'd bet that it'll have something to do with Amalgamous Prime. Alternately, Gage and Ryall chose a word in the Rom Annual that has me confused, and it's all just happenstance.

So you're thinking the Dire Wraiths are products of Ore 7? I can see ore 7 and amalgamous definitely
No. Maybe. Maybe?

Rom and the other Solstar Order Space Knights though, well, Ill just leave this here: https://twitter.com/chris_ryall/status/ ... 3939793920
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Re: IDW The 13 Primes, Titans, and Colonies

Postby Va'al » Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:03 pm

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Here's a thing I will post in the Annual 2017 thread once spoiler time is allowed. For now, I'll park it here!

Ok, I feel it's been long enough since the book came out to discuss this beast of a point: Onyx Prime.

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Yes, that's the Cosmic Rust poem. Which is also found on the Torchbearers in toy form.
Who are not from Cybertron, per se. And Pyra Magna is fighting for the Matrix... :-?

BUT!

Let's relate Onyx's presence to the wider IDW universe. Blackrock, we were told by Galvatron, is Sovereign, an emissary of Onyx Prime to Earth. He is currently doing things in Revolutionaries, but most importantly, was responsible for Galvatron's almost takeover of Earth, and still probably has most of Earth's technology accessible through a million backdoors.

[Note: Micronus is also in this universe, by showing up in his own universe with Micronauts, on the run from something. And something - the Entropy Cloud - is destroying the Microverse. :-? ]

Then we get this panel, in the Annual:

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That is one of the Marauders attacking Pyra's predecessor, Praesidia. Who does it look like?
Perhaps the 'King of Eukaris' - Onyx Prime's colony away from Cybertron - Optimus Primal?
The herald of a new Era of Beasts?

The winner of Power of the Primes, rising from the Chaos roster?
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But I found myself doing :-? a lot as I was looking at stuff today. Join me in the :-?
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Re: IDW The 13 Primes, Titans, and Colonies

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:13 pm

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Definitely interesting Va'al :-?

I didn't think anything of the gorilla, but it is possible it could represent Primal.

Although, what if the vote wasn't for the IDW next prime after Optimus, but rather for the identity of the 13th Prime, the Arisen? What if Optimus Primal is meant to be the 13th Prime?

Also, thanks for the bump as it gave me the chance to update my original list some, meaning Micronus now fully works, the rust colony Antilla was added, and the Vigilem/carcer/tempo mystery added
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Re: IDW The 13 Primes, Titans, and Colonies

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Although, what if the vote wasn't for the IDW next prime after Optimus, but rather for the identity of the 13th Prime, the Arisen? What if Optimus Primal is meant to be the 13th Prime?

That's kind of interesting and kind of makes me wish Star Saber won now.

"Oh, ****, The Arisen is this asshole. We're doomed."
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Re: IDW The 13 Primes, Titans, and Colonies

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:30 pm

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Just because I thought of this going back through, what if Shockwave found Micronus' resting place as microspace, and the entropy cloud is the ore consuming that dimension?
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Re: IDW The 13 Primes, Titans, and Colonies

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:50 pm

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Also, Scotty: so I was looking back through Dark Cybertron and I noted something important: Ore-2 AKA the death ore, was named an "alchemical virus" by Swerve. Maybe Gorlam Prime was the resting place of Alchemist Prime? slight nod there?

Also, what if Nexus was discharged off world or Alpha Trion went off world for a while? If Nexus' body was discharged into space and landed somewhere else, it would explain the 14th ore being on Cybertron with Alpha Trion, so there would be an ore for his artifact and for his body. Or, Alpha went off world and the 13th ore landed there, as I don't think Shockwave seeding an ore on Cybertron was meant as part of his 13 primes resting place ore locations gig
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Re: IDW The 13 Primes, Titans, and Colonies

Postby Va'al » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:59 am

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Kurona wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Although, what if the vote wasn't for the IDW next prime after Optimus, but rather for the identity of the 13th Prime, the Arisen? What if Optimus Primal is meant to be the 13th Prime?

That's kind of interesting and kind of makes me wish Star Saber won now.

"Oh, ****, The Arisen is this asshole. We're doomed."


To be entirely honest though, we don't know what Primal is like other than the official Hasbro bio:

Courageous, Unconventional
keep fighting no matter how big the odds are against him
'..sometimes crazy works'

This sounds a lot like your generic Hot Rod/Shot/Spot/Bee, minus the Brand Awareness. :-?
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Re: IDW The 13 Primes, Titans, and Colonies

Postby Kurona » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:08 am

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Va'al wrote:
Kurona wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Although, what if the vote wasn't for the IDW next prime after Optimus, but rather for the identity of the 13th Prime, the Arisen? What if Optimus Primal is meant to be the 13th Prime?

That's kind of interesting and kind of makes me wish Star Saber won now.

"Oh, ****, The Arisen is this asshole. We're doomed."


To be entirely honest though, we don't know what Primal is like other than the official Hasbro bio:

Courageous, Unconventional
keep fighting no matter how big the odds are against him
'..sometimes crazy works'

This sounds a lot like your generic Hot Rod/Shot/Spot/Bee, minus the Brand Awareness. :-?

Heck, not even considering what he'll be like in IDW - Victorion and Windblade for instance seemed to turn out very different and original in IDW compared to whatever ideas Hasbro themselves might have had, beyond of course the superficial elements.
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Re: IDW The 13 Primes, Titans, and Colonies

Postby ScottyP » Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:49 pm

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:shrug: I still think PotP isn't IDW. Maybe they pick up something out it for some synergistic harmony but I think we're focusing entirely too much on it. They've been seeding Onyx for what, three years? Wouldn't have been able to write even a cameo in for Primal in time.

All that said, I like the idea of Primal as the 13th and not our more familiar Optimus Prime. Would be unexpected and different!

Not a bad idea wrt Ore 2. Alchemist is one of the worst developed of The Thirteen even in Aligned so it'd be quite fun to see more.

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Re: IDW The 13 Primes, Titans, and Colonies

Postby Big Grim » Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:42 am

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This is an awesome thread. Read through it. Posting to keep up to date with it!
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Re: IDW The 13 Primes, Titans, and Colonies

Postby ScottyP » Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:42 pm

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That Primal from the Annual is looking a bit like the one from Synerg,er, Earth Wars. Could be something there after all!
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Re: IDW The 13 Primes, Titans, and Colonies

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:50 pm

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ScottyP wrote:That Primal from the Annual is looking a bit like the one from Synerg,er, Earth Wars. Could be something there after all!

I'm really hoping so!

I could see IDW taking a clever twist from a toyline to the comics, much how like Titans Return was only slightly tied to toys yet was a great story arc
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Re: IDW The 13 Primes, Titans, and Colonies

Postby ScottyP » Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:21 am

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I think we can update that first post after OP 17 :)
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Re: IDW The 13 Primes, Titans, and Colonies

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:34 pm

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ScottyP wrote:I think we can update that first post after OP 17 :)

Yeah, this super needs updating!

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Re: IDW The 13 Primes, Titans, and Colonies

Postby ScottyP » Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:57 am

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
ScottyP wrote:I think we can update that first post after OP 17 :)

Yeah, this super needs updating!

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Re: IDW The 13 Primes, Titans, and Colonies

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:45 pm

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ScottyP wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
ScottyP wrote:I think we can update that first post after OP 17 :)

Yeah, this super needs updating!

Adding to my list of things to do here along with write a few top 5s
I can abuse use my admin powers to edit your first post if you need a hand :)

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Re: IDW The 13 Primes, Titans, and Colonies

Postby ScottyP » Wed May 09, 2018 4:55 pm

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This is a revision of D-Maximal_Primal's earlier list with a slightly different structure. I started by editing his post but quickly realized the narrative didn't fit the structure to his original (and correct based on what we knew at the time!) post's layout and I didn't want to completely go wreck the entire thing on him. That said, he deserves a ton of credit for being way ahead of the curve on this, and using his post as a starting point made this, well, possible! Probably would not have bothered without the head start so, hey, thanks D-Max ;)^

Oh, and hey, this is Spoiler packed for all of IDW Transformers but hopefully if you're browsing this thread you already knew that.

The assumption is that for each of The Thirteen original "Primes", there is an associated Titan, Colony world, and Regenesis Ore. Not everything matches up cleanly yet, and it remains to be seen if all of the associations will be revealed by the time the continuity ends. D-Maximal-Primal originally associated an "Artifact" with each Prime as that was what the Aligned Continuity did and, when the concept started to become more fleshed out in IDW, it appeared this would be the case as well. While it holds for some, it doesn't for others so this will only be noted when present/known and not for every Prime. I have followed this whittling down of information a little further and only called out any associated "special" types of Transformers related to a given Prime when this is known to exist.

The Thirteen

To begin with, here are the cases where we know a "full set" of information consisting of a Prime, Titan, Colony, and Ore - though some of the finer points may still be a mystery!

Prima
  • Titan: Emissary
  • Colony: Elonia
  • Regenesis Ore Number and Name: 12, name currently unknown
  • Regenesis Ore Power: Bonds to other lifeforms becoming a suit of armor. This armor can change shape by the will of the user (seen in the 2017 Rom: Annual) but this power has been rarely explored.
  • Artifact: The Star Saber, not to be confused with the Transformer of the same name. As the hilt of the sword was the Matrix of Leadership and Shockwave needed to ensure it was passed to Nova Prime, the sword has presumably been otherwise destroyed.
  • Related Transformers: In a special case this is not actually a group of Transformers, however for these purposes the Knights of the Solstar Order (which at one point did include the Transformer known as Stardrive) could be considered the related "type".
  • Prima's Status: Deceased. Prima was killed by Megatronus on Tsiehshi.
  • Emissary's Status: Deceased. When Emissary's Spacebridge tech unintentionally interfered with Wheeljack's array of devices intended to transport the Elonians off world during Unicron's attack on the planet, Arcee took initiative and killed Emissary by throwing her swords into his exposed brain module.
  • Elonia's Status: Consumed by Unicron.

The Arisen/Optimus Prime
(Assumed to be The Arisen out of convenience, but may not be!)
  • Titan: Metrotitan
  • Colony: Earth
  • Regenesis Ore Number and Name: 13, Power
  • Regenesis Ore Power: Whatever the plot dictates Ore 13 yields Ultra Energon that makes a Transformer super powerful for a limited amount of time. This power has been harnessed by other villains such as Baron Karza.
  • Artifact: Matrix of Leadership
  • Optimus Prime's Status: Fightin' round the world!
  • Metrotitan's Status: Deceased. Metrotitan was fatally shot by a blast from The Nemesis, Shockwave's spaceship, after returning to Cybertron to attempt to stop his plans in Optimus Prime #17.
  • Earth's Status: I don't know, man, that's kind of a loaded question. Unicron has not consumed it yet, at any rate.

Since we know the rest of the Primes, this next grouping shows several more of them where we know a decent amount of information.

Alpha Trion
  • Titan: Metroplex
  • Colony: It has been seen in a flashback but not named, only noted as the first world the Primes conquered outside of Cybertron.
  • Regenesis Ore Number and Name: Unknown
  • Regenesis Ore Power: Unknown
  • Alpha Trion's Status: Apparent death occurred on Cybertron at the hands of "Onyx Prime" (Shockwave) in Optimus Prime #16.
  • Metroplex's Status: Metroplex is in city mode on Cybertron and comprises a large part of Iacon.
  • No-name Colony's Status: Unknown

Liege Maximo
  • Titan: Vigilem
  • Colony: Carcer (We've been told this is just a moniker for Vigilem's spaceship/prison mode, but let's just go with it until we know better. Shockwave sent an ore somewhere, which would have been where he thought Liege Maximo went in this case.)
  • Regenesis Ore Number and Name: Unknown
  • Regenesis Ore Power: Unknown
  • Related Transformers: There is a small, outside chance the domesticated Roboids of Demus/Tarn's creation are in some way related. The only connection at this time is thematically through the similarities between these Roboids and the experiments the Aligned Continuity version of the character conducted on "The Farm".
  • Liege Maximo's Status: On Cybertron, whereabouts uncertain.
  • Vigilem's Status: Deceased. Brain module physically destroyed by Elita One. Brain/spark escaped through a connection into Windblade's body but was destroyed by Windblade with help from Starscream in a battle within her mind.
  • Carcer's Status: If a planet, unknown. If not, a flying spaceship corpse over Cybertron.

Megatronus
  • Titan: Unknown
  • Colony: Tsiehshi
  • Regenesis Ore Number and Name: 8, Destruction
  • Regenesis Ore Power: "Power" may be the wrong term here, as Ore 8 emits a radiation that makes Transformers hallucinate and eventually go insane.
  • Megatronus' Status: Deceased. Killed by "Onyx Prime" (Shockwave) on Tsiehshi after Megatronus killed Prima.
  • Tsiehshi's Status: Presumably intact but why would you want to go there?

Micronus Prime
  • Titan: Prion
  • Colony: Prion
  • Regenesis Ore Number and Name: Unknown
  • Regenesis Ore Power: Unknown
  • Related Transformers: Mini-Cons. Additionally, the inhabitants of Microspace (including the Micronauts, Baron Karza, the Pharoids, and several other alien species) could be considered to belong in this category.
  • Micronus Prime's Status: Deceased. It is unknown what destroyed Micronus Prime, however his body has been used as a portal between Microspace and "normal" space.
  • Prion's (Titan) Status: Presumably destroyed during Unicron's destruction of the planet of the same name, if anything of the Titan was still alive/functional at that point.
  • Prion's (Planet) Status: Consumed by Unicron.

Nexus Prime
  • Titan: Unknown
  • Colony: Unknown. It is only an assumption that Nexus Prime's Titan eventually fled and established a colony.
  • Regenesis Ore Number and Name: Unknown
  • Regenesis Ore Power: Unknown
  • Artifact: Enigma of Combination
  • Related Transformers: Combiners, Headmasters/Titan Masters
  • Nexus Prime's Status: Deceased. Killed by Galvatron during the War of the Primes.

Onyx Prime
  • Titan: Chela
  • Colony: Eukaris
  • Regenesis Ore Number and Name: Unknown
  • Regenesis Ore Power: Unknown
  • Artifact: Talisman
  • Related Transformers: Beastformers (Transformers with alternate modes, like the characters in Beast Wars. Not to be confused with Battle Beasts.)
  • Onyx Prime's Status: Apparently deceased. Based on information presented in Optimus Prime #18, Onyx Prime was killed by Shockwave on Cybertron in ancient times after Shockwave was pulled through the Dark Cybertron/Crystal City singularity. Shockwave then masqueraded as Onyx Prime throughout history.
  • Chela's Status: Deceased. Killed by Starscream who shot Chela's brain module when he visited Eukaris with Windblade.
  • Eukaris' Status: Consumed by Unicron.

Solus Prime
  • Titan: Caminus
  • Colony: Caminus
  • Regenesis Ore Number and Name: Unknown
  • Regenesis Ore Power: Unknown
  • Artifact: The Forge
  • Related Transformers: Camiens
  • Solus Prime's Status: Deceased. Killed by Megatronus while protecting Prima from Megatronus and Liege Maximo during a coup attempt.
  • Caminus' (Titan) Status: Functional on the planet of the same name.
  • Caminus' (Planet) Status: Intact, but revealed through upcoming solicitations to be a near-future target of Unicron.

To round out our Thirteen Primes, here are the rest where there's just not much to go on. There are good educated guesses to be made, but they're so flimsy they're not even noted here.

Alchemist Prime
  • Titan: Unknown
  • Colony: Unknown, but it has been stated there is one associated with this Prime.
  • Regenesis Ore Number and Name: Unknown
  • Regenesis Ore Power: Unknown
  • Alchemist Prime's Status: Unknown, possibly drunk.

Amalgamous Prime
  • Titan: Unknown
  • Colony: Unknown, but it has been stated there is one associated with this Prime.
  • Regenesis Ore Number and Name: Unknown
  • Regenesis Ore Power: Unknown
  • Amalgamous Prime's Status: Unknown

Quintus Prime
  • Titan: Unknown
  • Colony: Unknown, but it has been stated there is one associated with this Prime.
  • Regenesis Ore Number and Name: Unknown
  • Regenesis Ore Power: Unknown
  • Quintus Prime's Status: Unknown

Vector Prime
  • Titan: Unknown
  • Colony: Unknown, but it has been stated there is one associated with this Prime.
  • Regenesis Ore Number and Name: Unknown
  • Regenesis Ore Power: Unknown
  • Vector Prime's Status: Unknown

Colonies

If you kept count above, there are six, maybe seven colony planets not associated to a Prime. We know what all of these are (if there are only six), and if other information such as a Titan, Ore, or related type of Transformer is also known, it is shown below. If the story reveals it, eventually this information will be consolidated as appropriate with the list above.

Antilla
  • Titan: Unknown
  • Regenesis Ore Number and Name: Unknown
  • Regenesis Ore Power: Unknown
  • Antilla's Status: Intact, uninhabited

Arduria
  • Titan: Unknown
  • Regenesis Ore Number and Name: 6, Cold
  • Regenesis Ore Power: The cold ore has caused Arduria to be slowly drained of its heat energy to the point where it has cracked into several pieces.
  • Arduria's Status: Intact, kind of. All of the native species, the Rocs, have been killed.

Cybertron
While very obviously not a colony itself, this felt like an ok place to reference the final Regenesis ore since there's an odd one out.
  • Regenesis Ore Number and Name: 14, Resurrection
  • Regenesis Ore Power: The resurrection ore was used by Shockwave during Dark Cybertron to gain some undead minions. It didn't really work out for him - or did it?
  • Cybertron's Status: Intact, home to refugees, and seems to come under some kind of perilous danger all the darn time. Unicron's on the way now, too. Rough times, would not live there 1 star out of 10.

Devisiun
  • Titan: Devisiun
  • Regenesis Ore Number and Name: Unknown
  • Regenesis Ore Power: Unknown
  • Related Transformers: Binary-Bonded Spark pairs
  • Devisiun's (Planet) Status: Intact
  • Devisiun's (Titan) Status: Deceased. The Titan was destroyed upon its initial entry to the planet.

Gorlam Prime
  • Titan: Necrotitan
  • Regenesis Ore Number and Name: 2, Death
  • Regenesis Ore Power: Ore 2 kills Transformers, acting through what has been referred to as an "Alchemical Virus".
  • Related Transformers: Micromasters
  • Gorlam Prime's Status: Somehow both collapsed into the Dead Universe and was consumed by Unicron. It remains to be seen if this will be resolved or if it's just something we're not supposed to think about too hard.
  • Necrotitan's Status: Deceased. Necrotitan was destroyed after Megatron provided Metroplex with Ore 7's "Change" power in the Dark Cybertron finale.

LV-117
  • Titan: Unknown
  • Regenesis Ore Number and Name: 1, Time
  • Regenesis Ore Power: The time ore causes LV-117 to haphazardly jump through time. Robots in Disguise's pair of "Syndomica" issues, #s 6 and 10, demonstrate the chaos this can create.
  • LV-117's Status: Consumed by Unicron.

Velocitron
  • Titan: Navitas
  • Regenesis Ore Number and Name: 9, Space
  • Regenesis Ore Power: Teleportation
  • Related Transformers: Velocitronians, which are primarily Transformers with fast vehicular alternate modes.
  • Velocitron's Status: Consumed by Unicron.
  • Navitas' Status: Deceased. Presumably destroyed during Unicron's consumption of Velocitron.

Titans

There are six Primes where we aren't sure what Titan to match. Looking at the list of colonies, we can find three of these in Necrotitan, Devisiun, and Navitas. Of the other three mystery Titans, we know one name, leaving two as a complete mystery.

Tempo
  • Prime: Unknown
  • Colony: Unknown
  • Tempo's Status: Unknown

Ores

If you kept score this entire way, you'll notice that Ores 3, 4, 5, 7, 10, and 11 haven't been associated with a Prime, Colony, or even a Titan. Of these, we only know anything certain about two of them so far.

Ore 7
  • Regenesis Ore Number and Name: 7, Change
  • Regenesis Ore Power: This ore has been used once so far, by Metroplex, who used its powers to reattach a severed thumb and restore its functionality.

Ore 10
  • Regenesis Ore Number and Name: 10, Deception
  • Regenesis Ore Power: Mind control

Speculation

What follows is unconfirmed, speculative information about possible "matches" for any of the incomplete information above.

  • LV-117 is strongly suggested to have some connection to the Quintessons, themselves just by the nature of their name very possibly the descendants of Quintus Prime.
  • Based on mere wordplay alone, Vector Prime's Titan may be Tempo.
  • It is possible that the other two Titans have been seen in other flashback stories, in the background of More Than Meets The Eye as Lockdown's team recounts their exploits hunting Titans, or even in the Titan "Junkyard" on Luna 1. However, no names or associations have been mentioned for these that would lead to associations relevant for inclusion on this list.
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First thing due for an update: Ore 4 was put on Caminus with the "gravity" power. That's one more question answered!
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