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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:56 pm

Nemesis Maximo wrote:I always knew there'd be a reason to hold on to that RID Megatron figure.


YUP!!!! Time to take him out of his RiD box(tub in storage) and put him on the classics/IDW shelf with pride.

I don't know why some people are asking for a new classics/generations figure. He's the same as the damn original toy. Go get him off eBay. He's cheap.
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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:41 am

This series is pretty good starting off. It's not world building like the others which is not what it's intending to do. It's just a mini series. I enjoy Shane McCarthy for the most part. Just as long as he doesn't do anymore interviews. Good guy just says the wrong stuff and comes off as a jerk.
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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby jogunwarrior » Fri Dec 05, 2014 9:26 am

I should really go track down a RID Megatron/Gigatron figure on eBay now.

Also, I would love for Hasbro to retool Drift into Deadlock, he looks awesome like that.
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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:07 am

jogunwarrior wrote:I should really go track down a RID Megatron/Gigatron figure on eBay now.

Also, I would love for Hasbro to retool Drift into Deadlock, he looks awesome like that.


I'd even spend the money on a tfcc recolor of deadlock. I like Drift. Always have. I never joined the bandwagon of hate all because McCarthy, Hasbro and IDW over sold him but he was a big deal! New character in G1. That was a thing. He's never done anything wrong in the stories and I don't hold it against him for over commercializing him.

I liked Drift from the beginning and his figure was one if the coolest from 2010 generations to me. Need to get my hands on the SG Deadpool recolor
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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Dec 05, 2014 2:27 pm

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To be fair he wasn't the first new character in G1 and there's been far better additions like Rung and Tailgate. I'm cautious about this series, all hail Megatron beat that into me.

Oh and the best drift writer is James Roberts.
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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby JazZeke » Fri Dec 05, 2014 2:31 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:To be fair he wasn't the first new character in G1 and there's been far better additions like Rung and Tailgate. I'm cautious about this series, all hail Megatron beat that into me.

Oh and the best drift writer is James Roberts.

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IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone #2 Full Preview

Postby Va'al » Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:35 am

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The mystery of the Empire of Stone continues, as Drift and Ratchet face an old but new threat in this week's second issue of the mini-series - check out a full preview below, and come back later this week for the Seibertron.com review!

Transformers: Drift—Empire of Stone #2 (of 4)
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ONCE A DECEPTICON! DRIFT’s past comes back to haunt him, as RATCHET tries to drag him back to the Lost Light. But alone on a far-off world, DRIFT’s honor demands he stand his ground!
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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby Optimizzy » Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:33 am

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Still no name given on Megatron/Gigatron in the comic. And how many times is Drift going to have to say he's not Deadlock? Erg.

Giga-whatsit-tron: "So Deadlock, is the war over" (important question)

Drift: "I told you I'm not Deadlock" (ignores)
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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:41 am

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Optimizzy wrote:Still no name given on Megatron/Gigatron in the comic.


Second panel on the first page, Turmoil calls him Gigatron! :D
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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby jogunwarrior » Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:57 am

I'm liking this preview better than the last. Gigatron looks sweet! Despite my initial reservations, I'll pick this up in trade.
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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby Optimizzy » Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:59 am

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Va'al wrote:
Optimizzy wrote:Still no name given on Megatron/Gigatron in the comic.


Second panel on the first page, Turmoil calls him Gigatron! :D


Ah! I missed that! Thank you.

Good, now it's official.
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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby Samsonator » Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:29 am

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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby Optimizzy » Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:56 pm

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Yeah. But this art makes it look way better than it is IMO.
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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby SW's SilverHammer » Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:27 pm

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I'ght, so I just thought of something, looking through windblade #4. What if, bear with me, ratchet Drift and Gigatron, are near one of the lost colonies mentioned in windblade #4, because I think, there was a colony of micromaster combiners mentioned.
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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby Shuttershock » Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:08 pm

Gigatron: "Muhahaha! With this hidden cache of Rock Lords at my beck and call, I shall conquer the UNIVERSE! What do you think of that, Deadlock?"

Drift: "I'm not Deadlo-"

Gigatron: "SILENCE!"
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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:52 pm

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SW's SilverHammer wrote:I'ght, so I just thought of something, looking through windblade #4. What if, bear with me, ratchet Drift and Gigatron, are near one of the lost colonies mentioned in windblade #4, because I think, there was a colony of micromaster combiners mentioned.


They were indeed, and I am pointing that out in the review too! :D
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IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone #2 Review

Postby Va'al » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:03 pm

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..And Whose Army?
(Spoiler free-ish)



Synopsis
ONCE A DECEPTICON! DRIFT’s past comes back to haunt him, as RATCHET tries to drag him back to the Lost Light. But alone on a far-off world, DRIFT’s honor demands he stand his ground!

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Pfft, honor


Story

You now, Drift - was Deadlock, but would rather not be reminded; was a Decepticon, see above; part of the Lost Light, then self-exiled; feels guilty about everything since pretty much forever, so heads off to be the Batman/Robin Hood of the galaxy. Why am I repeating this? We are not being allowed to forget what Drift's past is, nor his own guilt.

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You tell him, Ratchet


In this second issue, though, what I am left wondering is - will the retreading of Shane McCarthy's initial pitch, with the layers of characterisation given to Drift since All Hail Megatron, actually lead to something other than unspoken guilt, unreasonable bravado and a penchant for lost causes?

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Even Gigatron gets it


Don't get me wrong, there are some very good interactions in the issue, and some of characters have a fair deal of personal creation and minor development - but there is a constant feeling of something still missing in a series that is promising so much to start with, and already in the middle of its run.

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Do you?


I don't mind the dialogue, though I'd like to see more of it, and I like most of the characters that McCarthy is setting up in the miniseries, from the Stone whatevers to the Micromasters (mentioned in Windblade, too), the brief return of Turmoil and the magnificence of Gigatron. But it needs more to keep us in.


Art

Now, the art is great. It was good, if not entirely apt, when the team of Guido Guidi and Steve Baskerville were working together on ReGeneration One, but it's really good in this contemporary setting - there's a sense of grit, chunky big hulks of rock in the designs of the blockier types of characters we've encountered, and that's before we even see a Stone Army.

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And faces..


Of course, the feeling of dust, dirt and stone would not be complete without the magnificently painted work of JP Bove. If the bulk of the rocky art comes from the pencils and inks, the layer of grit and sand is definitely in the colours. And it's tasty grit with crunchy bits thrown in for good measure, and great lighting as the icing on top.

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..all the faces


And Tom B. Long gives us a double-whammy this week, by showing his fingers in the fonting, lettering and sounding of the pages of McCarthy's script, and giving some gravitas to the dialogue where needed. The two covers are also quite a thing to look at, dealing with the duality of Drift's character in the main Guidi/Josh Burcham one, and his conscience in the Alex Milne/Josh Perez variant (thumbnail).


Thoughts
Spoilerish ahead

Much like its preceding issue, Empire of Stone is taking its time to really kickstart its proper plot, and might get on the bad side of some readers used to the tighter stories of the two current ongoings. The stories that are there don't have more than some references, but the characters' different voices ad their interactions can, for some, make up for it.

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I am hopeful


On the visual side, we have a similar concentration of silent action sequences (and pretty good ones too) to the first issue in the miniseries, and probably something we should expect for the following two issues. Fortunately, the artistic team is magnificent at conveying the ruggedness of this side of the galaxy, and we can revel in the eye candy.

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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:28 pm

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I'm sorely tempted to get this, simply because of Gigatron. But Drift is a big thing that I have trouble getting past. If the finale is mind blowing, it may be worth it. I hope it is - I want McCarthy to make me like Drift.

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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:06 am

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Nemesis Maximo wrote:I hope it is - I want McCarthy to make me like Drift.


That is exactly my feeling. I want to like this series, the writing, the characters. I want it to be impactful, I want it to relate back to the main story in MTMTE somehow meaningful.

So far, it's not doing it. But it hasn't screamed that it won't at all.

So, like Natalie Imbruglia, I am torn.
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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:47 am

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I have a question though, didn't spotlight: Night beat kinda hint that the micromasters were the creation of Jihaxus?
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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:48 am

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I have a question though, didn't spotlight: Night beat kinda hint that the micromasters were the creation of Jihaxus?
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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:03 am

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I believe the Windblade colony explanation sort of overrides that. As it overrides the 'Arcee is only non-male character'. Jhiaxus may as well have created *some*, but there are more out there that are 'naturally' occurring.

I think.
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