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ScottyP wrote:I lived through Phase 1. One issue at a time. For every awesome moment like Stormbringer, there were times like New Avengers vs. Transformers. For every greatly cultivated continuity payoff like Devastation, there was a Spotlight: Blaster.Kurona wrote:ScottyP wrote:IDW is about as consistent with colors and designs as Sunbow was in the 80s.
Dude... those words are hurtful words.
There were also at least 85.3 regular artists working under a laissez faire editorial reign. This is greatly exaggerated, of course, but by that last year in 2011 there was 0 consistency anywhere.
I love Spotlight: Blaster. Fun story, neat twist, and my friend Robby Musso crushed it on the art. I was picking at it from the continuity perspective only, as nothing in it has ever been revisited - not even by John Barber!Kurona wrote:ScottyP wrote:I lived through Phase 1. One issue at a time. For every awesome moment like Stormbringer, there were times like New Avengers vs. Transformers. For every greatly cultivated continuity payoff like Devastation, there was a Spotlight: Blaster.Kurona wrote:ScottyP wrote:IDW is about as consistent with colors and designs as Sunbow was in the 80s.
Dude... those words are hurtful words.
There were also at least 85.3 regular artists working under a laissez faire editorial reign. This is greatly exaggerated, of course, but by that last year in 2011 there was 0 consistency anywhere.
Aww, man, now I have to defend my favourite Spotlight? You wound me. You wound me.
But you also said New Avengers vs. Transformers was bad, so it's only skin-deep! Wheeeee~
ScottyP wrote:I love Spotlight: Blaster. Fun story, neat twist, and my friend Robby Musso crushed it on the art. I was picking at it from the continuity perspective only, as nothing in it has ever been revisited - not even by John Barber!Kurona wrote:ScottyP wrote:I lived through Phase 1. One issue at a time. For every awesome moment like Stormbringer, there were times like New Avengers vs. Transformers. For every greatly cultivated continuity payoff like Devastation, there was a Spotlight: Blaster.Kurona wrote:ScottyP wrote:IDW is about as consistent with colors and designs as Sunbow was in the 80s.
Dude... those words are hurtful words.
There were also at least 85.3 regular artists working under a laissez faire editorial reign. This is greatly exaggerated, of course, but by that last year in 2011 there was 0 consistency anywhere.
Aww, man, now I have to defend my favourite Spotlight? You wound me. You wound me.
But you also said New Avengers vs. Transformers was bad, so it's only skin-deep! Wheeeee~
Transformers: Lost Light #6
James Roberts (w) • Jack Lawrence (a & c)
You know that sinking feeling you get when you witness the destruction of an entire planet? Rodimus and company are about to feel that. Hardcore.
FC • 32 pages • $3.99
Bullet points:
· Six issues in...the end of Lost Light?!
· OK, not likely. But a lot of people could die now!
· Variant cover by Marcelo Matere!
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
Kurona wrote:We're catching up with Getaway and the Lost Light in Issue 10. I kinda hope it involves Mirage's group coming back, First Aid going "what the ****" and two seconds later Defensor tearing up half the ship.
Kurona wrote:We're catching up with Getaway and the Lost Light in Issue 10. I kinda hope it involves Mirage's group coming back, First Aid going "what the ****" and two seconds later Defensor tearing up half the ship.
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
(W) James Roberts (A) Jack Lawrence (CA) Alex Milne
AFTERMATH! The war with the Functionalists is over-and Rodimus is left wondering whether he won or lost. It's the beginning of a new chapter for the displaced crew of the Lost Light, as decisions are made that will change their lives forever.
Me tooIronhidensh wrote:You know, I had really started to buy into ScottyP's theory of the Rung/Unicron connection. I'm quite disappointed it didn't play out.
I have three points.Randomhero wrote:To have Unicron show up proves primus is real which essentially says God is real and here he is, IDW has spent 12 years avoiding anything primus or Unicron as an actual thing.
ScottyP wrote:Me tooIronhidensh wrote:You know, I had really started to buy into ScottyP's theory of the Rung/Unicron connection. I'm quite disappointed it didn't play out.That is all I can say about that right now.
I have three points.Randomhero wrote:To have Unicron show up proves primus is real which essentially says God is real and here he is, IDW has spent 12 years avoiding anything primus or Unicron as an actual thing.
1 - Primus: More or less confirmed by the 2012 Annuals, but outside of that, they're clearly going towards the direction of having the 13 be a thing and it is very much looking like it's more-or-less direct from Covenant of Primus, backstory wise. This makes the 13 each a part of Primus. They are his divided self.
2 - Unicron: John Barber is on record (with our podcast) in saying that they almost teased him at the end of Dark Cybertron to go in that direction, they just weren't sure they were yet capable or ready to tell an effective story with him. His phrasing was "Where do you go?", so it's good they recognized they didn't think they had a fleshed out enough plan to move forward on it. I don't think they'll have a single reservation about bringing him in if they think the time is right and they have a good story.
3 - On IDW "avoiding" them: This was a Simon Furman thing at the start of the IDW run and it made complete sense at the time. Unicron was well worn by the shows at that point. However, since Transformers: Cybertron concluded, the only real Unicron material has been in TF: Prime and it was a little taste with the Gaia Unicron stuff (at the very, very beginning of the show, no less!) then some "meh" possession stuff in Beast Hunters. I don't think folks in general are worn out on Unicron/Primus/etc at all anymore, individual exceptions notwithstanding of course.
Fun debate!Randomhero wrote:The Annual proved nothing. Thats why there were different point of views from both. Cyclonus's which rewind says "ive never heard this version" there are several and in RID we saw a different one. there was never any proof that Primus existed. Thats why in the RID annual when Metrotitan is revealed Prowl "Theyre not religious icons, theyre just big guys"
Including the thirteen and basing them off the aligned doesnt make them straight children of Primus. In IDW They came after the Guiding Hand and the Knights of Cybertron. theyve based them off their appearance and a little bit of their back stories but not completely. Leige Maximo was killed in the covenant of Primus and hes very much alive. Onyx Prime stayed in Cybertons core and in IDW he bolted with almost all the others. they dont prove Primus exist or at least not yet.
Barber did say that but its not in the book so it doesnt matter. Margarid Scott just revealed everything she planned before TAAO was canceled but it doesnt matter now becuse it wont happen. its like the Matrix. Optimus claims its just a bauble, a piece of technology which it has been shown it is while other religious characters claim it to be Solomus and can create life which it also has. neither is right or wrong its personal interpretation.
It was Furman's thing but they've modified it. Simon Furman didnt want Primus to exist even by name. thats why in Stormbringer he used other names to swear by like Primacron. John decided to modifly the "no primus/no Unicron" when he took on writing and editing. He's included them but based them on real world mentality. you can believe in them but there is no proof.
ScottyP wrote:Fun debate!Randomhero wrote:The Annual proved nothing. Thats why there were different point of views from both. Cyclonus's which rewind says "ive never heard this version" there are several and in RID we saw a different one. there was never any proof that Primus existed. Thats why in the RID annual when Metrotitan is revealed Prowl "Theyre not religious icons, theyre just big guys"
Including the thirteen and basing them off the aligned doesnt make them straight children of Primus. In IDW They came after the Guiding Hand and the Knights of Cybertron. theyve based them off their appearance and a little bit of their back stories but not completely. Leige Maximo was killed in the covenant of Primus and hes very much alive. Onyx Prime stayed in Cybertons core and in IDW he bolted with almost all the others. they dont prove Primus exist or at least not yet.
Barber did say that but its not in the book so it doesnt matter. Margarid Scott just revealed everything she planned before TAAO was canceled but it doesnt matter now becuse it wont happen. its like the Matrix. Optimus claims its just a bauble, a piece of technology which it has been shown it is while other religious characters claim it to be Solomus and can create life which it also has. neither is right or wrong its personal interpretation.
It was Furman's thing but they've modified it. Simon Furman didnt want Primus to exist even by name. thats why in Stormbringer he used other names to swear by like Primacron. John decided to modifly the "no primus/no Unicron" when he took on writing and editing. He's included them but based them on real world mentality. you can believe in them but there is no proof.
We can agree to disagree, or place a friendly wager, perhaps
It looks like he's shaking someone's hand with Megatron facing away from them.Soundwave902 wrote:Either Magnus is holding Megatron's hand (Please not another love subplot) or Megatron is getting arrested by Magnus on account of the fact he has no cuffs.
Rodimus Prime wrote:It looks like he's shaking someone's hand with Megatron facing away from them.Soundwave902 wrote:Either Magnus is holding Megatron's hand (Please not another love subplot) or Megatron is getting arrested by Magnus on account of the fact he has no cuffs.
As for Primus and Unicron, not only do I hope they appear, I hope we get an extensive backstory on them that elaborates their origins and everything they did before the Transformers even came around. I'm not religious, but I always found this origin story of the Transformers fascinating. **** the Quintessons. Of course, it should be written by Barber and not Roberts.
Rodimus Prime wrote:It looks like he's shaking someone's hand with Megatron facing away from them.Soundwave902 wrote:Either Magnus is holding Megatron's hand (Please not another love subplot) or Megatron is getting arrested by Magnus on account of the fact he has no cuffs.
As for Primus and Unicron, not only do I hope they appear, I hope we get an extensive backstory on them that elaborates their origins and everything they did before the Transformers even came around. I'm not religious, but I always found this origin story of the Transformers fascinating. **** the Quintessons. Of course, it should be written by Barber and not Roberts.
Even so, that's a handshake.Soundwave902 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:It looks like he's shaking someone's hand with Megatron facing away from them.Soundwave902 wrote:Either Magnus is holding Megatron's hand (Please not another love subplot) or Megatron is getting arrested by Magnus on account of the fact he has no cuffs.
That's Megatron's hand though
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