ZeroWolf wrote:I see, thanks for the explanation d-max as for getaway...death is too good for him, I really hope he breaks down and realises he's beat by someone better than him.
ZeroWolf wrote:I see, thanks for the explanation d-max as for getaway...death is too good for him, I really hope he breaks down and realises he's beat by someone better than him.
ZeroWolf wrote:I agree, I like relatable villains but some times, we do need irredeemable scumbags who are in it just for themselves. They all can't be "I only did these mean things because some one else told me to do it"
Randomhero wrote:That’s the point. Thunderclash is a joke. He’s Ace Rimmer. Everyone talks about how amazing he is but you don’t see how great he is. He is literally a gag character.
Why would you think scorponok wouldn’t return? He’s behind so much with the Cog machinations .
AlphaBass wrote:Other minor issue - guess this means Defensor's death is real.
ZeroWolf wrote:AlphaBass wrote:Other minor issue - guess this means Defensor's death is real.
True but we'll just mark that down now as wanting to make star saber a legitimate threat. Besides no one will be alive in this continuity soon
ZeroWolf wrote:Don't let allnewsuperrobot hear you say that, he thinks unicron needs to be allowed to destroy everything so he can be seen as a proper threat. My other post is in jest though a little as I can't see them not honouring the end of the animated movie and the marvel comics run. I also wonder still if they could segue from unicrons destruction to the new continuity ala transformers cybertron
Randomhero wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Don't let allnewsuperrobot hear you say that, he thinks unicron needs to be allowed to destroy everything so he can be seen as a proper threat. My other post is in jest though a little as I can't see them not honouring the end of the animated movie and the marvel comics run. I also wonder still if they could segue from unicrons destruction to the new continuity ala transformers cybertron
I’ve thought about that too. Not unlike what DC dieting new 52 where the universe gets remade.
It’s like I’ve joked before “EVERYONE INTO THE FUNCTIONALIST UNIVERSE! MEGATRON HAS BEEN PREPPING IT FOR US!”
There’s gotta be plans to bring him back to the comics someday. Years down the road he shows back up. It even make a miniseries of his tales there. If it wasn’t all concluding I would have liked to see James do that after LL ended.
AlphaBass wrote:Randomhero wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Don't let allnewsuperrobot hear you say that, he thinks unicron needs to be allowed to destroy everything so he can be seen as a proper threat. My other post is in jest though a little as I can't see them not honouring the end of the animated movie and the marvel comics run. I also wonder still if they could segue from unicrons destruction to the new continuity ala transformers cybertron
I’ve thought about that too. Not unlike what DC dieting new 52 where the universe gets remade.
It’s like I’ve joked before “EVERYONE INTO THE FUNCTIONALIST UNIVERSE! MEGATRON HAS BEEN PREPPING IT FOR US!”
There’s gotta be plans to bring him back to the comics someday. Years down the road he shows back up. It even make a miniseries of his tales there. If it wasn’t all concluding I would have liked to see James do that after LL ended.
I'd be very curious to see and Optimus/Megatron team up - even if it's set in the Functionist universe, I'm intrigued about them and how easily they could take over the galaxy. Maybe Prime decides Megatron's pacifist ways aren't enough to get things done and pushes Megs to a shades of grey area where it seems like the ends justify the means.
Randomhero wrote:The closer we get to the end the more apparent I think it was that the first arc of LL was just to get Megatron off a book he was never intended to be in. As great as he was in MTMTE he left zero impact except for Dying of The Light. Getaway was already planning the mutiny before megatron was announced as coming on board as co-captain with him already being unimpressed with rodimus’s leadership and him and atomizer already concocting a fake list to blackmail Rodimus.
Seeing as how things are being played out it just seems more and more James wanted him on the book with season two and to get back on track he needed to find a way to remove him.
Megatron has some amazing moments and it’s argued on him being the best version of Megatron ever but when you look at MTMTE/LL as a whole you do see his inclusion was a side step in it all.
AlphaBass wrote:Randomhero wrote:The closer we get to the end the more apparent I think it was that the first arc of LL was just to get Megatron off a book he was never intended to be in. As great as he was in MTMTE he left zero impact except for Dying of The Light. Getaway was already planning the mutiny before megatron was announced as coming on board as co-captain with him already being unimpressed with rodimus’s leadership and him and atomizer already concocting a fake list to blackmail Rodimus.
Seeing as how things are being played out it just seems more and more James wanted him on the book with season two and to get back on track he needed to find a way to remove him.
Megatron has some amazing moments and it’s argued on him being the best version of Megatron ever but when you look at MTMTE/LL as a whole you do see his inclusion was a side step in it all.
The most interesting I found him was slaughterhouse. The interactions between him and Ravage, him and the rest of the team, I thought it could've been explored a lot more in detail.
Him going back in time, for example, and seeing how beautiful Cybertron once was (instead of Cyclonus) could've been a really interesting arc for him - knowing what he's known and been through, was it worth it? Could there have been a different way?
And I wasn't suggesting SG Prime, but more of a Prime that acted like Prowl.
AlphaBass wrote:Randomhero wrote:The closer we get to the end the more apparent I think it was that the first arc of LL was just to get Megatron off a book he was never intended to be in. As great as he was in MTMTE he left zero impact except for Dying of The Light. Getaway was already planning the mutiny before megatron was announced as coming on board as co-captain with him already being unimpressed with rodimus’s leadership and him and atomizer already concocting a fake list to blackmail Rodimus.
Seeing as how things are being played out it just seems more and more James wanted him on the book with season two and to get back on track he needed to find a way to remove him.
Megatron has some amazing moments and it’s argued on him being the best version of Megatron ever but when you look at MTMTE/LL as a whole you do see his inclusion was a side step in it all.
The most interesting I found him was slaughterhouse. The interactions between him and Ravage, him and the rest of the team, I thought it could've been explored a lot more in detail.
Him going back in time, for example, and seeing how beautiful Cybertron once was (instead of Cyclonus) could've been a really interesting arc for him - knowing what he's known and been through, was it worth it? Could there have been a different way?
And I wasn't suggesting SG Prime, but more of a Prime that acted like Prowl.
Quint wrote:False dichotomy there.
In-story, they were clearly wrong to let him go.
Judged as a narrative, there were still other opportunities to see Megatron brought to justice prior to his escape. It's a little facile to compartmentalise Megatron into schisms of before/after putting on the Autobrand. Repentance is not equivalent to justice in of itself... and even then, has Megatron even shown genuine contrition? He's said that he's changed, but has he sought forgiveness? As far as I'm aware, he hasn't.
It actually doesn't even require a depiction of punishment, just an acknowledgement that justice has not been served to the billions of lives he was responsible for ending.
Quint wrote:I don't think Roberts/IDW know how to deal with a criminal of that magnitude, a murderer on that scale. So concerned are they by the minutiae of one-on-one relationships they've kind of checked out of processing the consequences of someone who could order a planet's by inches.
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