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[not_a_bot]

I felt the things both of them said were pretty much understandable, from their point of view.

Cyclonus is grieving and angry and pretty much blaming himself.


Chromedome had his partner pretty much skewered without reason right in front of his eyes, plus he does not know what happened to Tailgate yet - Whirl was the first to figure that one out - so from his point of view he too has a right to be angry, and he lashes out.

[snavej]

Tarn's 'speech power' won't hold against Shockwave, who is a master of electromagnetism and also extremely learned and experienced. He would have plenty of countermeasures against Tarn. He would know how to manipulate sound, especially when it is being transmitted via radio or similar.

Also, why is he using a hand-held 'phone when he has plenty of built-in communications equipment?!

[Va'al]

I felt the things both of them said were pretty much understandable, from their point of view.

Cyclonus is grieving and angry and pretty much blaming himself.


Chromedome had his partner pretty much skewered without reason right in front of his eyes, plus he does not know what happened to Tailgate yet - Whirl was the first to figure that one out - so from his point of view he too has a right to be angry, and he lashes out.

I get that, I do. But that line reveals more about himself and his attitude towards attachment than anything hurtful towards Chromedome. And that attitude is not very good.

[ScottyP]

Va'al's review led me to figuring our the meaning behind "Threadbare Space", as referenced in Lost Light 1 by Drift (among other places)


When Red Alert picks up the Necrobot's cloak, which is giving a view into the Benzene cluster of space, the wordplay gives it away:


Fun stuff, I'm quite interested to see where all this leads. There's something serious going on in that part of space, presumably separate from Unicron things since we know he's going to show up around Elonia first.

[ricemazter]

I felt the things both of them said were pretty much understandable, from their point of view.

Cyclonus is grieving and angry and pretty much blaming himself.


Chromedome had his partner pretty much skewered without reason right in front of his eyes, plus he does not know what happened to Tailgate yet - Whirl was the first to figure that one out - so from his point of view he too has a right to be angry, and he lashes out.

I get that, I do. But that line reveals more about himself and his attitude towards attachment than anything hurtful towards Chromedome. And that attitude is not very good.

I really don't know how I feel about it. On the one hand, it's a super screwed up way of seeing a relationship. On the other, it's a really interesting development that recontextualizes everything having to do with Cyclonus and Tailgate in a way that makes a really dark kind of sense.

It's crazy when Whirl, the king of being abusive towards people he supposedly likes, is the closest to seeing the pairing for what it is.

I kind of hope Roberts runs with this idea. It's really twisted, but makes things much more interesting.

[not_a_bot]

Va'al's review led me to figuring our the meaning behind "Threadbare Space"

Whow, I totally missed that.
Well spotted!

[snavej]

'Threadbare space' is right next to 'Foreshadowing space'!

[ScottyP]

"Morality Lock" seems to refer to what was seen at the end of Remain in Light, with Skids going through the portal to talk to planets or something. "Trapped Light" couldn't possibly be the ship, right?

[snavej]

'Morality lock' reminds me of the 'Justice field' in Red Dwarf where all criminal actions resulted in immediate punishment, e.g. setting fire to something was penalised by a fire starting in one's own possessions. Only very law-abiding people could avoid penalties.

[not_a_bot]

Could Trapped Light be Tailgate?

[ZeroWolf]

'Morality lock' reminds me of the 'Justice field' in Red Dwarf where all criminal actions resulted in immediate punishment, e.g. setting fire to something was penalised by a fire starting in one's own possessions. Only very law-abiding people could avoid penalties.

They introduce the successor of that in series 11 (the karma field...I think that's what it's called) where you do good deeds and good things happen while bad deeds result in heavy doses of bad luck.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

So, while reading MTMTE volume 8, I found this note:

With the preview for LL14 now out, it looks like the "schism" is Scorponok. More foreshadowing of where the story is going, and now we are getting deeper into Scorponok territory! I am loving it!

[ScottyP]

Could Trapped Light be Tailgate?

I think Tailgate is dead. I may be the only person on Earth that thinks this, but to me it was implied death in issue 7, confirmation in 13. That said, Chaos Theory provides precedent for him getting put back together if someone were to really try. Megatron has a (seemingly) throwaway line about being reduced to particles and stitched back together after being scraped off the walls - or something to that effect.

'Morality lock' reminds me of the 'Justice field' in Red Dwarf where all criminal actions resulted in immediate punishment, e.g. setting fire to something was penalised by a fire starting in one's own possessions. Only very law-abiding people could avoid penalties.

They introduce the successor of that in series 11 (the karma field...I think that's what it's called) where you do good deeds and good things happen while bad deeds result in heavy doses of bad luck.

This would jive with a few things: Roberts' fondness for Red Dwarf, Tyrest's killswitch being based off a type of Aequitech, and it feels Quintesson-esque. There are quite a bit of squid hints. I think this is where the story is going.

Also, "Morality Lock" could be a play or spin on the Quadrant Lock from Five Faces of Darkness (maybe that, or the Quint Journal episode? One of those s3 episodes with weird Quint plans!)

[ZeroWolf]

Could Trapped Light be Tailgate?

I think Tailgate is dead. I may be the only person on Earth that thinks this, but to me it was implied death in issue 7, confirmation in 13. That said, Chaos Theory provides precedent for him getting put back together if someone were to really try. Megatron has a (seemingly) throwaway line about being reduced to particles and stitched back together after being scraped off the walls - or something to that effect.

'Morality lock' reminds me of the 'Justice field' in Red Dwarf where all criminal actions resulted in immediate punishment, e.g. setting fire to something was penalised by a fire starting in one's own possessions. Only very law-abiding people could avoid penalties.

They introduce the successor of that in series 11 (the karma field...I think that's what it's called) where you do good deeds and good things happen while bad deeds result in heavy doses of bad luck.

This would jive with a few things: Roberts' fondness for Red Dwarf, Tyrest's killswitch being based off a type of Aequitech, and it feels Quintesson-esque. There are quite a bit of squid hints. I think this is where the story is going.

Also, "Morality Lock" could be a play or spin on the Quadrant Lock from Five Faces of Darkness (maybe that, or the Quint Journal episode? One of those s3 episodes with weird Quint plans!)

Putting red dwarf in the same breath as squid reminds me of the number 1 episode as voted by the fans, back to reality where there is a squid called the despair squid which uses an ink that drives people to utter despair and ultimately suicide...then back to earth introduced the female version of the species that produced bliss instead...though that for some reason makes me think of what's going on with getaway

[Va'al]

Via regular source for this type of news, the comics and media website Adventures in Poor Taste!, we have a full preview for next week's offering from IDW Publishing in their ongoing Transformers comics series Lost Light!

Issue #14 brings us away from Rodimus and his crew, and back to the Scavengers, Grimlock - and a flashback sequence we've seen before with Scorponok, Shockwave and Tarn / Damus / Glitch - plus new Commander Nickel. Check it out below, and join us for a review once the book is released next week!

MACGUFFIN QUEST! The Scavengers have never had it so good. The war is a receding memory, their patchy service records have been forgotten, and the five of them can roam the galaxy as they please. All’s well that ends well? Not quite. Because unbeknownst to Krok and Co., their next adventure… will be their last.

Bullet points:

· Variant cover by Brendan Cahill!

Transformers: Lost Light #14
Written by James Roberts
Art by Brendan Cahill
Color by Joana Lafuente
Cover by Jack Lawrence
FC • 32 pages • $3.99
Release Date February 7, 2018

[Randomhero]

Much like a lot of LL pay offs lately the Shockwave conclusion just seems like a “OH WRAP IT UP WRAP IT UP WRAP IT UP WE GOTTA MOVE ON!”

Shame

[Ironhidensh]

Much like a lot of LL pay offs lately the Shockwave conclusion just seems like a “OH WRAP IT UP WRAP IT UP WRAP IT UP WE GOTTA MOVE ON!”

Shame

It's a flashback. Thats it. The whole point was to show how Skorpinock got off Garrus 9.

I think it did it's job well, what more do you want?

[ScottyP]

Much like a lot of LL pay offs lately the Shockwave conclusion just seems like a “OH WRAP IT UP WRAP IT UP WRAP IT UP WE GOTTA MOVE ON!”

Shame

It's a flashback. Thats it. The whole point was to show how Skorpinock got off Garrus 9.

I think it did it's job well, what more do you want?

There's a portion of MTMTE readership that just won't ever be satisfied with the story again, no matter what gets written or drawn. I don't know how it got here, been too busy enjoying myself reading these comics.

[Randomhero]

Much like a lot of LL pay offs lately the Shockwave conclusion just seems like a “OH WRAP IT UP WRAP IT UP WRAP IT UP WE GOTTA MOVE ON!”

Shame

It's a flashback. Thats it. The whole point was to show how Skorpinock got off Garrus 9.

I think it did it's job well, what more do you want?

Considering Shockwave has always been 50 steps ahead of everyone and had a plan to literally destroy the universe that he spent 9 million years in the works you’d think he’d have a contingency plan on dealing with one of his former pupils other than shooting the phone.For god sake he probably had a hand(hehe) in upgrading the Djd into who they all are

[Randomhero]

Because I read comics. All kinds of comics. Not just “James Roberts who can do no wrong’s next masterpiece of comics”

Take off the rose tinted glasses he’s not that great of a story teller.

[misfire19d]

Much like a lot of LL pay offs lately the Shockwave conclusion just seems like a “OH WRAP IT UP WRAP IT UP WRAP IT UP WE GOTTA MOVE ON!”

Shame

It's a flashback. Thats it. The whole point was to show how Skorpinock got off Garrus 9.

I think it did it's job well, what more do you want?

There's a portion of MTMTE readership that just won't ever be satisfied with the story again, no matter what gets written or drawn. I don't know how it got here, been too busy enjoying myself reading these comics.

Really, you don't know how it got here. People have been telling you on these forums for the last few years and all they get is BS like" be respectful" "you're biased". Blah Blah Blah.

Deflecting, and projection isn't going to make me buy these books. They're too far gone.

Pick up a copy of Dark Knights Metal and compare it to any IDW TF book. The difference in the quality of plot and storytelling is the wasted potential for Transformers comics.


5749 and dropping.

[Crosscheck]

I have a couple theories on these recent issues. 1. Tailgate definitely isn't dead. He told FM to tell Rodimus that so Cyclonus wouldn't come back for him. 2. Skids is coming out of the smelting pool.

[ZeroWolf]

Or maybe you guys just don't like the story choices for some reason? Maybe this series isn't for you anymore and you should just part amicably, remember the good times as you seek pastures new.

Also comparing dark knights metal to tf is unfair as IDW would have to spend money they didn't have to get first tier marvel and DC writers and I bet that a lot of them would turn their noses up at the idea of writing transformers.

[Grimlocktimus]

Everyone is so quick to judge the newer issues but honestly we're lucky to have them... I know very few people in real life who like transformers and until I found seibertron I honestly thought the fandom was dying... the fact that people out there pour time and effort into creating these comics for the fandom is nothing short of fantastic.. you can have your opinion but you don't have to tear each other down over them... either enjoy the series or don't but don't have a conniption if someone disagrees (not that anyone in the current comments has but I see that as a running trend online these days).

[Grimlocktimus]

Personally I think the recent stories are hokey, but what says the series needs a serious tone at all times, I love that the characters can be explored in depth in a media type that allows time for these things... it's just fun.