Nathaniel Prime wrote:TR Sentinel Prime? Ok then, I guess
Nice art, but I feel like we had better art before.
ZeroWolf wrote:Can I ask for a sentinel prime of the middle ground or one more akin to his Animated incarnation?
william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Can I ask for a sentinel prime of the middle ground or one more akin to his Animated incarnation?
It would definitely help show that this is a new continuity and not just a redo of what we already got.
All the stuff with Shockwave/Onyx/whatnot still reeks of an eleventh hour pivot to simplify a more complex, pre-planned plot and move it towards a rushed conclusion to make way for the Unicron wrap-up event.Randomhero wrote:william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Can I ask for a sentinel prime of the middle ground or one more akin to his Animated incarnation?
It would definitely help show that this is a new continuity and not just a redo of what we already got.
Like a sentinel from Megatron Origin who was alluded to being a smug A-hole but because he had a duty and didn’t care about the politicians. I’d be fine with that.
I still enjoyed Sentinel Prime from IDW but now that it’s all said and done I see errors. He revealed that like Sovereign he was an agent of Nexus Prime and then Onyx Prime and was preparing for Onyx’s return. His plan was to bring an army of titans and wipe out everyone on Cybertron. colonists and planet born Cybertronians. When Onyx returned and Shockwave revealed himself, sentinel and the plan to use titans to go all attack on Titan and trample everyone is not mentioned and none of that seemed to gel with shockwaves plans. It didn’t make any sense in the end.
One big criticism I have for the end of IDW was a lot of things didn’t end up getting resolved. Mainly plots with sovereign and Centurion. No time. They just got dumped. Woulda been nice if we’d gotten some interaction with Shockwave and those 2
ScottyP wrote:All the stuff with Shockwave/Onyx/whatnot still reeks of an eleventh hour pivot to simplify a more complex, pre-planned plot and move it towards a rushed conclusion to make way for the Unicron wrap-up event.Randomhero wrote:william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Can I ask for a sentinel prime of the middle ground or one more akin to his Animated incarnation?
It would definitely help show that this is a new continuity and not just a redo of what we already got.
Like a sentinel from Megatron Origin who was alluded to being a smug A-hole but because he had a duty and didn’t care about the politicians. I’d be fine with that.
I still enjoyed Sentinel Prime from IDW but now that it’s all said and done I see errors. He revealed that like Sovereign he was an agent of Nexus Prime and then Onyx Prime and was preparing for Onyx’s return. His plan was to bring an army of titans and wipe out everyone on Cybertron. colonists and planet born Cybertronians. When Onyx returned and Shockwave revealed himself, sentinel and the plan to use titans to go all attack on Titan and trample everyone is not mentioned and none of that seemed to gel with shockwaves plans. It didn’t make any sense in the end.
One big criticism I have for the end of IDW was a lot of things didn’t end up getting resolved. Mainly plots with sovereign and Centurion. No time. They just got dumped. Woulda been nice if we’d gotten some interaction with Shockwave and those 2
ScottyP wrote:All the stuff with Shockwave/Onyx/whatnot still reeks of an eleventh hour pivot to simplify a more complex, pre-planned plot and move it towards a rushed conclusion to make way for the Unicron wrap-up event.Randomhero wrote:william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Can I ask for a sentinel prime of the middle ground or one more akin to his Animated incarnation?
It would definitely help show that this is a new continuity and not just a redo of what we already got.
Like a sentinel from Megatron Origin who was alluded to being a smug A-hole but because he had a duty and didn’t care about the politicians. I’d be fine with that.
I still enjoyed Sentinel Prime from IDW but now that it’s all said and done I see errors. He revealed that like Sovereign he was an agent of Nexus Prime and then Onyx Prime and was preparing for Onyx’s return. His plan was to bring an army of titans and wipe out everyone on Cybertron. colonists and planet born Cybertronians. When Onyx returned and Shockwave revealed himself, sentinel and the plan to use titans to go all attack on Titan and trample everyone is not mentioned and none of that seemed to gel with shockwaves plans. It didn’t make any sense in the end.
One big criticism I have for the end of IDW was a lot of things didn’t end up getting resolved. Mainly plots with sovereign and Centurion. No time. They just got dumped. Woulda been nice if we’d gotten some interaction with Shockwave and those 2
00Stargrave00 wrote:ScottyP wrote:All the stuff with Shockwave/Onyx/whatnot still reeks of an eleventh hour pivot to simplify a more complex, pre-planned plot and move it towards a rushed conclusion to make way for the Unicron wrap-up event.Randomhero wrote:william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Can I ask for a sentinel prime of the middle ground or one more akin to his Animated incarnation?
It would definitely help show that this is a new continuity and not just a redo of what we already got.
Like a sentinel from Megatron Origin who was alluded to being a smug A-hole but because he had a duty and didn’t care about the politicians. I’d be fine with that.
I still enjoyed Sentinel Prime from IDW but now that it’s all said and done I see errors. He revealed that like Sovereign he was an agent of Nexus Prime and then Onyx Prime and was preparing for Onyx’s return. His plan was to bring an army of titans and wipe out everyone on Cybertron. colonists and planet born Cybertronians. When Onyx returned and Shockwave revealed himself, sentinel and the plan to use titans to go all attack on Titan and trample everyone is not mentioned and none of that seemed to gel with shockwaves plans. It didn’t make any sense in the end.
One big criticism I have for the end of IDW was a lot of things didn’t end up getting resolved. Mainly plots with sovereign and Centurion. No time. They just got dumped. Woulda been nice if we’d gotten some interaction with Shockwave and those 2
Well said. I wanted to like Optimus Prime’s go at a title in his name and that whole 11th hour push/arc as you accurately called it but it was very busy and muddled then ooo inky Junkions then ooo lots of Aileron then oo Onyx and boom done. And Shockwave just didn’t feel like Shockwave. In retrospect I was left wanting a bit.
Having read the whole thing in a big whoosh like I did looking at it as a whole I think there were a lot of factors at play but nothing bored me more than the crossover stuff. Crap. Crossover crap. And I love each of those properties from my childhood dearly but it just was wrong it did not belong.
00Stargrave00 wrote:See I felt that too fortunately there was enough mention of and exposition to make that really tangible for me but as we’re all kind of echoing I guess it just felt squeezed in.
Every death in Unicron felt like saying goodbye in painful chunks to something I’d fallen in love with fast and hard like a teenager’s romance. You always wish you had more time.
You mentioned how Megatron evolved that’s like all you needed to say. When his canon turned into his med case I thought oh some people are gonna hate that but I love a well written villain turnaround I lost my fanboy s$&@ when he did that. He’s like the Doctor Doom type character teaming up with the FF I always geeked out for that stuff.
Randomhero wrote:00Stargrave00 wrote:See I felt that too fortunately there was enough mention of and exposition to make that really tangible for me but as we’re all kind of echoing I guess it just felt squeezed in.
Every death in Unicron felt like saying goodbye in painful chunks to something I’d fallen in love with fast and hard like a teenager’s romance. You always wish you had more time.
You mentioned how Megatron evolved that’s like all you needed to say. When his canon turned into his med case I thought oh some people are gonna hate that but I love a well written villain turnaround I lost my fanboy s$&@ when he did that. He’s like the Doctor Doom type character teaming up with the FF I always geeked out for that stuff.
Soundwaves death still gets to me so much when I got reread unicron and I do go back every couple months and read it again. He seriously became a shining gem in IDW and his death was very sad but he went out a hero. Nothing will probably ever trump IDW Shockwave as one of the best villains in transformers fiction but I don’t think anything will ever trump Soundwave either just as a character.
ZeroWolf wrote:You know what I would like to see in the future, comics based on other tf settings. IDW did a great job changing G1, could they do the same with G2? Or The Unicron Trilogy?
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