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korisifu wrote:

Naked Magnus wrote:Wanted to preorder Ironhide and Ratchet, but $220 is a LOT of money for a figure to be released so far into the future. If history is any indicator, there will be delays, if not a cancellation. Would I get my money back if the figure fell through?

Anyone know the answer to this?

No idea, but I preordered the PP Seeker set back in Nov'11 and I'm still patiently awaiting the arrival of the last two figures. I knew it'd be a long wait, though, so I'm not saying anything negative.

korisifu wrote:

necr0blivion wrote:I love the prices on the minibots ($15 preorder), but not thrilled about the Ironhide/Ratchet prices ($110 preorder, $120 afterwards).

For that price, I've purchased their "Masterpiece" figures.

I agree whole heartily! Look at the quality and what you get with FansProject and PerfectEffect for cheaper. I know it sounds retarded but if it's true that they're cheaper now, I have an impulse to bite the bullet on these....even just to save $20+. Do we know for a fact they're at a discounted price right now?

Well, iGear could choose to change the prices at any time. I preordered Bee01 & 02 for the sale of $30, and now that they are released you can still get that price.

I'm curious though about getting it cheaper. TFSource has the 3 PP jets for a lot cheaper than iGear currently has it; however, I preordered them for even cheaper, but the shipping they charged was incredibly high. I'd probably have done better with TFSource preorder and shipping all 3 together, but TFS only opened this up a few months ago.

Think about this way. I think these figures are perfect for a Classics collection. They look a lot better than the Takara/Hasbro renditions, and come with TONS of cool looking accessories. If you did not get Takara/Hasbro versions when they came out, they can be had in the secondary market for almost similar prices to what iGear is asking now... it's a judgement call, sure. But I just need to plan to spend some serious cash on these guys.

$110. Yikes. I knew they'd be expensive but this is still a little surprising. They look really nice but I'm definitely not getting them. The minibots look cool too but I'd rather wait and see how competitive MakeToy will be.

Rated X wrote:I just noticed something else. On their pre order page they show Ironhide next to a G1 Optimus Prime. He towers over G1 Prime making him Voyager height. Universe Ironhide is actually shorter than G1 Prime. This kind of justifies the price, but the scale throws me off too much to purchase. Im trying to fill in gaps in my classics collection, not start a new supersized collection.

Good call, and thanks! I don't have G1 Prime out to compare to my Classics figures, but it's good to have a better approximation now. And now, better to justify prices.

Rated X wrote:I just noticed something else. On their pre order page they show Ironhide next to a G1 Optimus Prime. He towers over G1 Prime making him Voyager height. Universe Ironhide is actually shorter than G1 Prime. This kind of justifies the price, but the scale throws me off too much to purchase. Im trying to fill in gaps in my classics collection, not start a new supersized collection.

I have to agree with this. Keeping the figures in scale is pretty important to me. Sometimes more important than the price. The minibots are too small and Ironhide/Ratchet's too big...I'm sitting these out for the time being for these exact reasons. Plus there are still no coloured protos...

ya know what i take that back, seaspray and huffer are not that bad, i might be able to get them! ^_^

Those are pretty awesome, but $110 is kinda steep. Hopefully TFSource will have them for cheaper.

I got out my G1 Primer for ref and compared him to some other Generations guys

Kup - Kups head is about to the top of Prime cab (about a head height shorter overall)

Inferno - Reverse of Kup. Prime's head comes up to the top of Infernos cab, with Infernos head makining about 1" or so higher.

Most of the generations guys are way shorter unless you take into account doors/wings and missles.

necr0blivion wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I'd really like to see a size comparison before I order ANY of the upcoming 3rd party minibots.

They compare both of their minibots to the Legends class Optimus Prime on their site.

How big is legends Prime?

Mkall wrote:

Powermaster Jazz wrote:Those prices are absolute bulls***. Plus it's not like there will never be any more official figures of Ratchet and Ironhide

Considering that Ironhide and Ratchet will stand as tall (if not taller) than FansProiject's Defender, and contain much more accessories, I don't think the prices are too outrageous.

I agree with you. The price may be more than what people expected but it's not outrageous when all of their accessories and the amount of detail on the figures are taken into consideration. My only concern is QC. Some parts look a little fragile. I also wonder how well balanced they are. Are they going to fall over easily?

I like the scale of Ironhide and Ratchet. They will fit well in a MP collection. What are the chances that these figures will be on other sites for preordering?

tmk9883 wrote:Those are pretty awesome, but $110 is kinda steep. Hopefully TFSource will have them for cheaper.

I got out my G1 Primer for ref and compared him to some other Generations guys

Kup - Kups head is about to the top of Prime cab (about a head height shorter overall)

Inferno - Reverse of Kup. Prime's head comes up to the top of Infernos cab, with Infernos head makining about 1" or so higher.

Most of the generations guys are way shorter unless you take into account doors/wings and missles.

Lacking a G1 Prime and Inferno, I did my best comparing side by sides. But if my SWAG is right, they are just shy of City Commander. Ironhide being that big is pretty cool, but Prime was always bigger than him. Hopefully this will get me to quit messing with my budget.

Stormrider wrote:

necr0blivion wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I'd really like to see a size comparison before I order ANY of the upcoming 3rd party minibots.

They compare both of their minibots to the Legends class Optimus Prime on their site.

How big is legends Prime?

Mkall wrote:

Powermaster Jazz wrote:Those prices are absolute bulls***. Plus it's not like there will never be any more official figures of Ratchet and Ironhide

Considering that Ironhide and Ratchet will stand as tall (if not taller) than FansProiject's Defender, and contain much more accessories, I don't think the prices are too outrageous.

I agree with you. The price may be more than what people expected but it's not outrageous when all of their accessories and the amount of detail on the figures are taken into consideration. My only concern is QC. Some parts look a little fragile. I also wonder how well balanced they are. Are they going to fall over easily?

I like the scale of Ironhide and Ratchet. They will fit well in a MP collection. What are the chances that these figures will be on other sites for preordering?

I believe TFsource has carried all the previous iGear releases so I figure they will get these as well. I emailed them about them earlier, but probably won't heard back from them until tomorrow.

I really like Rager, I just wish he was bigger. I'm one of those that like what HasTak has done with Classics Powerglide and Seaspray, taking G1 mini-vehicles that SHOULD realistically be bigger, and making them bigger.

So since Huffer was a big rig, I'd really like it if Rager was bigger.

The other thing is, Spray and Rager may be close to Legends-size standing up, but Rager is WAY bigger than Legends Optimus in truck mode.

So they don't REALLY fit with other Legends. Maybe Legends Commanders, but not really Legion-Legends.

As for Weapons and Medical, I really like them, too. But in their case, I wish iGear would offer different price points. Like JUST the figures for $50, the figures and half the accessories for $80, and then the figures and all accessories for $110.

They all really are great looking figures, but Rager is too small for my tastes, and Weapons and Medical are out of my price range. I WOULD drop $50 or $60 just for the figures, though. There's no way I would ever need all those accessories.

-J-

I pre ordered Spray, and Rager.....

SPRAY is a pass. I just don't like how it looks with all the ribs on the skirt and his chest, aswell as the horizontal strips on his shins. Plus I already have both Hasbro's and Takara's HFTD Voyager Seasprays which I'm very happy with.

The SPECIALIST duo look friggin' awesome, although some clear plastic windows wouldn't have gone amiss. The level of detail (just look at the inside of those legs!!!) and the range of accessories I think fully justifies the price. However, scale is very important to me too and their size combined with their aesthetics to me means they'd definately look slightly out of place in a Classics collection; my primary focus. Begrudging pass x2.

RAGER is the winner for me. The smokestacks in vehicle mode are significantly oversized, but that may be downplayed once the figure is coloured with the prominent orange. Robot mode looks excellent. AND HE'S WEAPONISED!!! Yes, he's smaller than I'd like, but for ONLY $15 I think I can live with it. Besides it's not like we're drowning in Huffers.

Not Ironhide and Ratchet looks soooooooooooo good!

now if they would just do the guys that need to be done like snarl, sludge, sixshot and why not another wheelie.and a better galvatron.come on with it

I agree that $110 for Ironhide and Ratchet is a lot of cash but considering they are voyager sized and armed to the teeth, it is understandable.



I know this is a rough comparison but you get the general idea. $110 for 3rd party voyager sized figs is pretty good. Arcee was the same price and she is a Deluxe sized figure.

What sort of gets me is the duplication of accessories. Yes, when you take the accessory packages into account along with figure size, the prices don't seem too bad (although I still think they're too high and iGear's just trying to see how far they can push us). But they share a lot of the same stuff. If you're interested in just one figure that's great. If you want to get both, you're forking over a lot of cash for duplicate parts, even if they're color-coded for each figure. Why does not-Ratchet - you know, the "medical" specialist - need a combat knife? Or a tripod-mounted sniper rifle?

I love these, but 220 is way outside of my budget for the momment.

--B-- wrote:I love these, but 220 is way outside of my budget for the momment.

I know. I really really want a better Ironhide then what we got from Hasbro, but two factors are keeping watching on the sidelines for the moment. Price and size. I'm just really focusing on Classics/Generations, and with Ironhide being as big if not slightly bigger then the Classics Vger Prime, it would look a little weird.

But when Impactor comes out, That's the scale I do want him in. I hope that they make him THAT size.

I dont mind that Ironhide is a little big, i think it suits the character of an old tough warrior with thick armor. ratchet on the other hand should probably be smaller being a medic but hey, he shares the same protoform as 'Hide so what can you do.

im REALLY tempted to drop 220 on these guys, but i cant pull the trigger just yet. ill have to sell off some stuff before then, maybe get rid of the universe hide and ratchet before i ante up...

Edit: looks like Nightbird went down in price, maybe if we hold off PP05 will follow suit

I'm really liking the look of the figures. The Spray and Rager look very nice. I don't mind their diminutive size. They're homaging Minibots afterall. The Ironhide/Ratchet "specialist" figures look great to me. They're surprisingly slim at the torso from profile view. I like how the parts are configured in bot mode. The array of accessories is also quite nice. I don't know why but the cannons that resemble one of the Bayverse Ironhide's arm cannons amuses me.

I'm not someone who approves their mini copies of MP figures but I applaud iGear for their impressive looking foray into fully transformable toys that they've designed themselves.

I can see how some people balk at the $110 price tag of the Specialist figures but that's with free shipping. At least if you pre-order, you get a $10 discount.

ok so judge by this:


is it safe to say he in good proportion to Classics/Henkei Optimus?

I was really hoping the weapon and medical specialists are smaller so they can be a little bit cheaper, also better fit with the scale of Voyager Prime and other CHURG line deluxe. Yes, I also think the accessories are a little bit too much and they added up the price.

Astronopolis wrote:maybe get rid of the universe hide and ratchet before i ante up...

If you are going to, please let me know.

Trikeboy wrote:I agree that $110 for Ironhide and Ratchet is a lot of cash but considering they are voyager sized and armed to the teeth, it is understandable.



I know this is a rough comparison but you get the general idea. $110 for 3rd party voyager sized figs is pretty good. Arcee was the same price and she is a Deluxe sized figure.

trence5 wrote:ok so judge by this:


is it safe to say he in good proportion to Classics/Henkei Optimus?

Umm did you not see my post? It was only at the bottom of the last page.

I'm very tempted to get Ironhide and Ratchet. I like Seaspray and Huffer, but their size is deterring me. I wish they were a little bigger.

paul053 wrote: *snip*

Astronopolis wrote:maybe get rid of the universe hide and ratchet before i ante up...

If you are going to, please let me know.

i will keep you in mind


looks like i missed your post too Trikeboy. head height looks to be about the same as prime, I am well pleased