The Energon Pub

News Credits: 10 · Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:39 am

Well, since we're past the point of this movie ever being rightfully considered a G1 adaptation, I say bring Tidal Wave on!

News Credits: 1082 · Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:42 am

I do think there should be a triple changer, and a car carrier in the future of the movie, but not an aircraft carrier TF, at least, I'm not having good ideas with it.

News Credits: 1 · Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:44 am

It would be interesting that in each film a different generation gets its focus. He's done G1, maybe BW somehow? (Dinobots have already been mentioned), BM? RID? Any of the Unicron Trilogy? This carrier being Tidal Wave would fit it as a U.T reference

Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:45 am

Phenotype wrote:
Ultra Magnus wrote:Bottom Line is, as much as much as those like myself consider Generation 1 the Alpha and Omega of Transformers Lore, there are plenty of those that did not grow up with G1, and thus view it as archaic and cheezy.

I grew up with G1 and while I don't neccessarily consider it archaic and cheesy I am definitely ready for something new. I don't see why anyone would want different incarnations of the same characters over and over and over again. I've had enough G1. I really felt like the Classics line was a nice way to cap off that whole era, it was a great homage, now time for something new. I'm sorry, I know you guys think that TF's has to follow certain rules and blah blah blah but I'd really like to see a TF series with absolutely NO G1 characters at all, not even Prime. At the heart of TF's we have good characters, you don't have to have Prime to have a strong leader and you don't have to have Starscream to have a cunning villian.

HELLO HELLO I am only 21 original G1 watchers have at the very least 10 years on me. I am from the beast wars era and guess what, it suct! one time they had an episode where rinox farted through the whole thing he ate some berrys that gave him gas it was so retarded. G1 was the best it beats everything the voices were better the charaters had more personallity it simply was better have you ever even listened to the voices on the show Energon they all sound like they are talking through tin cans its horrible it sucks. I was so pumped when the classics line dropped it was the bomb! the movie line is disappointing I bought a couple of movie figures and they are not as good I have barricade and brawl they are lame figures. G1 Forever!!!! as for new charaters yeah i am all about that but do it in the G1 fashion unless you like those neon colored and tin can voiced transformers...yuk

Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:47 am

Oh I have an idea.follow the original storyline and just make a movie with characters i know, translated to live action! If were talking big give me metroplex or omega supreme

News Credits: 5 · Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:47 am

nahh!!! it'd be way too big and way too silly....

I do like the whole beast wars thing though.. I think it would be the coolest thing ever to see a beast wars Optimus primal and Megaton or Waspinator in the new Movie design look, plus screw king Kong, Optimus Primal would totally rule!!!

Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:00 am

The production cost must be more than the movie budget if that happens, but you know Tom De Santo (one of the executive porducers) would like have Grimlock & the Dinobots slagging the Contructicons.

Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:13 am

Ericus Prime wrote:I wanted to bring this up here.

"IGN, being cynical cretins by nature, questioned why Bay thought Transformers wasn't a toy movie since, last we checked, it's about a line of toys and was created with support from Hasbro - a toy manufacturer.

"Transformers is essentially a movie based around a line of toys - but there's a lot of violence and mature content in the film aimed presumably at adults. Was it hard to strike a balance?"

Suddenly, the charming smile slipped from Bay's face and things went very quiet. He didn't lose his composure, but we definitely hit a nerve of some kind - pride, maybe?"

Very interesting. Any thoughts?

Good Post!

Bay's a warmonger, thats why the military likes working with him, he makes war glamorous. Depending on the news you read, we (US) have plans on being in the middle east for decades.

The MPAA originally rated the movie 'R', until Speilberg got involved and he said he got it down to a 'PG-13'.

Most parents nowadays remember the PG-13 movies from when they were growing up and figure that this rating would make it ok for children under 13 to see.

Let's see: a long war, minimal adult support for it, recruitment is down, TF makes the military look fun, it's rated so children will see it and have heroic impressions of military service...

For those that didn't catch on above:Uncle Sam gives Bay full access to make a flick that would attract the next generation of bullet-catchers to join in the never ending 'War of Terror'.

That is why I despise American culture nowadays. It's not culture, it's propaganda. Wake Up People!

News Credits: 2 · Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:27 am

I'd put money down that the name wouldn't be either Tidal Wave or Broadside- it'll be Devastator; that just seems to be the way things are going in this series. It would be a great way to bring in the Dinobots/Dynobots however; a special crack commando Autobot team brought in specifically to deal with a giant Decepticon carrier-bot. It also would potentially serve as a base for the 'cons and could be a way to bring in the Seekers too.

As for G1 vs non-G1...grow up people! Both have their positives and negatives. The G1 is the most endearing, but was cheesy and had way too many characters. The new series are cheesy and have way too much human influence. Beast Wars was a new idea, but some of the ideas and storylines were too complicated for the target audience. Beast Machines was the same...nothing is perfect, just preferred. Neither is better than the other. They're all fun. So please just grow up...please?

Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:46 am

Carriers are too vulnerable to attacks by supersonic warriors. If they're going to make one, it should have some kind of defence, like going underwater like a submarine, being really fast like a speedboat, being super stealthy or having a big force field.

News Credits: 1 · Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:50 am

snavej wrote:Carriers are too vulnerable to attacks by supersonic warriors. If they're going to make one, it should have some kind of defence, like going underwater like a submarine, being really fast like a speedboat, being super stealthy or having a big force field.

Or it could just be made of the same stuff as the other Transformers and be able to take a monumental beating before breaking down.

And as for the transformation...imagine Tidal Wave transforming while people, transformers and everything are on top of it! It would be like Shadow of the Colossus, and the camera work alone on it would be intense. Maybe a little nauseating, but intense.

Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:53 am

I absolutely loved what they did with tidal wave in the playstation 2 transformers armada game so i reckon it would effen rock in transformers 2 movie. Keep him really stupid though...

News Credits: 1 · Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:57 am

hhmm tidalwave i hope this would be in scale and a leader

News Credits: 49 · Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:59 am

Micromaster Flattop! HURRAY!

Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:33 am

OK, so what would get to fight this monster?
Maybe the spawn of Godzilla could arise from the deep and kill two sequels with one bad idea?
Or perhps it could try swinging from the top of the Sears Tower while the aerialbots buzz it?

News Credits: 59 · Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:42 am

Insurgent wrote:TIDAL WAVE over Broadside anyday.

That would have been so freaking SWEET! Look forward to it in a later movie.

Like I said so long ago: I dislike the robot designs* but Michael Bay will make a great action movie with a decent plot.

*After seeing the designs in action, that opinion has changed.

BRING ON JULY 27TH!!!!! (Yes, that long till the UK gets this )

i dont understand that, we get it july 5th (because movies open on thursdays here i guess, 4th is a wednesday) here in portugal :/

News Credits: 15 · Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:13 pm

Tidal Wave would be COOOOOOL. He'd be HUGE! You would need an Autobot to match him, who could that be?

News Credits: 8 · Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:19 pm

The plus for TW is the Seekers. Would be cool

News Credits: 8 · Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:25 pm

Handbanana wrote:
Ericus Prime wrote:I wanted to bring this up here.

"IGN, being cynical cretins by nature, questioned why Bay thought Transformers wasn't a toy movie since, last we checked, it's about a line of toys and was created with support from Hasbro - a toy manufacturer.

"Transformers is essentially a movie based around a line of toys - but there's a lot of violence and mature content in the film aimed presumably at adults. Was it hard to strike a balance?"

Suddenly, the charming smile slipped from Bay's face and things went very quiet. He didn't lose his composure, but we definitely hit a nerve of some kind - pride, maybe?"

Very interesting. Any thoughts?

Good Post!

Bay's a warmonger, thats why the military likes working with him, he makes war glamorous. Depending on the news you read, we (US) have plans on being in the middle east for decades.

The MPAA originally rated the movie 'R', until Speilberg got involved and he said he got it down to a 'PG-13'.

Most parents nowadays remember the PG-13 movies from when they were growing up and figure that this rating would make it ok for children under 13 to see.

Let's see: a long war, minimal adult support for it, recruitment is down, TF makes the military look fun, it's rated so children will see it and have heroic impressions of military service...

For those that didn't catch on above:Uncle Sam gives Bay full access to make a flick that would attract the next generation of bullet-catchers to join in the never ending 'War of Terror'.

That is why I despise American culture nowadays. It's not culture, it's propaganda. Wake Up People!

No. Just, No. We may not like our government, But the TFs have been fighting since BEFORE the War on Terror. This is not a new concept. It's the root of what we know. It's a conflict. A well known conflict, but one that works when trying to tell a story.

Just cause there's a parrelell there doesn't mean it's correct or neccecary to use it.

News Credits: 3 · Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:25 pm

The movie's out in the UK on the 27th because that's the first day of the English school holidays. That the Scottish school holidays start several weeks earlier is apparently immaterial.

I would totally support larger TFs/bases as time goes on. I was imagining Omega Supreme as a 747 just the other day, in fact. Of course, we could abandon all hope of ever getting figures that were in-scale.

-Nick

News Credits: 3 · Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:32 pm

MR Optimus Prime here...

Unites States is a propaganda machine huh Handbanana?

I'll remember that next time I pick up pieces of an Iraqi baby blown up by some terrorist!!!

News Credits: 322 · Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:34 pm

People please don't go off topic, this is a thread about the interview, carrier etc...

Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:15 pm

A "carrier" bot doesn't necessarily have to be obnoxiously huge. Besides, the whole concept is it's a "war" being fought and adapted to "our world." In the real world, we use carriers. They seem to be rather useful IMO. In regards to their usefulness to TFs, well, not every Decepticon or Autobot has the ability to fly from one end of the globe to the other...