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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby Blurrz » Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:32 pm

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In terms of the first four Celestial Being Mobile Suits - I'd have to say go for the 1/100 scale. If you got 1/144, you won't have Gundam Nadleeh, but if 1/100 you'll basically get everything. I think with 1/100, bigger pieces will help a beginner who is starting to make model kits. However it's up to you, if you don't want to spend that much, get the 1/144's + Nadleeh, or if you want to go big, then try 1/100. They're both masterpieces.
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:38 pm

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Blurrz wrote:In terms of the first four Celestial Being Mobile Suits - I'd have to say go for the 1/100 scale. If you got 1/144, you won't have Gundam Nadleeh, but if 1/100 you'll basically get everything. I think with 1/100, bigger pieces will help a beginner who is starting to make model kits. However it's up to you, if you don't want to spend that much, get the 1/144's + Nadleeh, or if you want to go big, then try 1/100. They're both masterpieces.


Besides size what's the difference? Detail, articulation? I watched a video on the 1/100 Virtue and was disappointed that the barrel on the GN Bazooka had to be painted.
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby Blurrz » Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:43 pm

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With size comes detailing and articulation. Comparing 1/100 Exia to 1/144 Exia.. the 1/100 blows it away. It comes with beam sabers for all of the mecha's swords. Ultimately, if you want the kits to have cartoon CGI, you're going to have to marker-detail them and paint them. With the 1/100, you don't even need to do anything and it still looks fine. The 1/144 exia almost looks like a tri-coloured McDonald's toy without panel lining and painting. Perhaps that's overexaggeration, but the only reason I go 1/144 is because there are enemy suits, basically I can actually have a nice display going with it, and can expand on it in the future.

The 1/100 suits do not too many Enemies suits to go along with it, so I feel that they are usually stand alone showcase pieces, and they do that very well. From what you're saying, it sounds like you want to have showcase pieces, instead of expanding your collection later on to have everything.
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:38 pm

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Blurrz wrote:With size comes detailing and articulation. Comparing 1/100 Exia to 1/144 Exia.. the 1/100 blows it away. It comes with beam sabers for all of the mecha's swords. Ultimately, if you want the kits to have cartoon CGI, you're going to have to marker-detail them and paint them. With the 1/100, you don't even need to do anything and it still looks fine. The 1/144 exia almost looks like a tri-coloured McDonald's toy without panel lining and painting. Perhaps that's overexaggeration, but the only reason I go 1/144 is because there are enemy suits, basically I can actually have a nice display going with it, and can expand on it in the future.

The 1/100 suits do not too many Enemies suits to go along with it, so I feel that they are usually stand alone showcase pieces, and they do that very well. From what you're saying, it sounds like you want to have showcase pieces, instead of expanding your collection later on to have everything.


Thanks for the info. It looks like I'll be picking up a couple of 1/100 scale models. I'm basically only looking for Dynamas and Kyrios since they don't have Robot Damashii versions... That I know of. I'd like to get some of the villain mechs but I'll be damned if I know their names.
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby pt206 » Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:00 am

Hobby Search is running a 50% of EMS shipping sale right now with paypal. They have PG GP01 in stock right now so it's a great chance to pick it up.
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:36 pm

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Well I ordered a 1/100 scale Dynamas and Kyrios Gundam kit. Since I've done that tomorrow Bandai will announce Robot Damashii versions of each. Yay me.
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Sat Jun 19, 2010 3:23 pm

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OMG! I just finished building the 1/100 scale Kyrios. I truly am in awe and fear of those that build the bigger sized kits. I did find it funny that the joint pieces were on a spruce from 1996. One thing I wasn't thrilled with was that there wasn't any tabs or pegs to hold the limbs in place when transformed. I also need to get better clippers and a file; any suggestions? On to Dynamas which is my favorite Gundam. Good thing nothing happens to him in the series.
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby pt206 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:38 am

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I also need to get better clippers and a file; any suggestions?


You can get a set of plastic files or rasps, use sandpaper, or buy cheap disposable finger nail files like I do.

Nippers are an area of debate. Some people think it doesn't matter which kind you use and some people prefer a pair of precision nippers. I use Tamiya's Sharp Pointed Side Cutter and highly recommend them.
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:04 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:I also need to get better clippers and a file; any suggestions?


You can get a set of plastic files or rasps, use sandpaper, or buy cheap disposable finger nail files like I do.

Nippers are an area of debate. Some people think it doesn't matter which kind you use and some people prefer a pair of precision nippers. I use Tamiya's Sharp Pointed Side Cutter and highly recommend them.


I happened to be in home Depot and bought a set of files designed for hobby work and a set of clippers and pliers. The clippers work really well as they have a slight springing action to them. They work so well I haven't had to use the files… yet. I do have a question about filing, how do you file away the burr without damaging the piece? Often I opted to use a hobby knife instead but I'm interested to hear other peoples techniques.

Right now I'm working on my Dynames kit. Glad I did Kyrios first as I'm having a much better go of it with Dynames. So I'm up to the part in 00 where they introduce the GN arms, is that the same as the 00 raiser? It's just for Exia right? Oh God, my wallet fainted.
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby pt206 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:57 pm

The hand full of kits I haven't painted I use a hobby knife and rub the nub mark with a finger nail to ease the discoloration. You can also use a color matched gundam marker (doesn't have to be exact.)
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby Blurrz » Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:04 pm

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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:12 pm

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so I'm almost done with Dynames and have been thinking about maybe, MAYBE finishing the set of 4 Gundams. I've heard that there's a 1/60 scale Exia but I'm not sure if I want to get it. Is it just bigger than the 1/100 or does it have extra features. If it has articulated hands I'm sold.
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby Blurrz » Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:20 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:so I'm almost done with Dynames and have been thinking about maybe, MAYBE finishing the set of 4 Gundams. I've heard that there's a 1/60 scale Exia but I'm not sure if I want to get it. Is it just bigger than the 1/100 or does it have extra features. If it has articulated hands I'm sold.


Check it out for yourself;

http://dalong.net/review/00/0601/0601_p.htm
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:35 pm

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Blurrz wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:so I'm almost done with Dynames and have been thinking about maybe, MAYBE finishing the set of 4 Gundams. I've heard that there's a 1/60 scale Exia but I'm not sure if I want to get it. Is it just bigger than the 1/100 or does it have extra features. If it has articulated hands I'm sold.


Check it out for yourself;

http://dalong.net/review/00/0601/0601_p.htm


Thanks for the link. By the way, I'm not crazy right, they do make kits with articulated hands?
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby Blurrz » Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:41 pm

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No, my MG Freedom has articulated hands.
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:13 pm

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Blurrz wrote:No, my MG Freedom has articulated hands.


And thanks to that link so does the 1/60 scale Exia. Sold. Sigh, I think I have another addiction; plastic crack is painful.
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby Gutter Bunny » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:22 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:Sigh, I think I have another addiction; plastic crack is painful.


Be scared...you'll be wanting to paint them soon enough.
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby Convotron » Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:27 pm

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Gutter Bunny wrote:Be scared...you'll be wanting to paint them soon enough.


It's worse when one enters the phase of customizing via kitbashing and/or scratchbuilding or perhaps the expensive world of resin conversion kits.
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:05 pm

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Gutter Bunny wrote:Be scared...you'll be wanting to paint them soon enough.


It's worse when one enters the phase of customizing via kitbashing and/or scratchbuilding or perhaps the expensive world of resin conversion kits.


Even if I reach that point I won't paint them. My hands shake doing detail work so I'd be to concerned about errant brush or marker strokes.

So I ordered the 1/60 Exia. I just hope to God they don't do other 00's in that scale, well maybe virtue. Speaking of 00, anybody know the name of the Gundam Sestsuna sees in the very beginning when he's still a child warrior?
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby Blurrz » Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:20 pm

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Convotron wrote:
Gutter Bunny wrote:Be scared...you'll be wanting to paint them soon enough.


It's worse when one enters the phase of customizing via kitbashing and/or scratchbuilding or perhaps the expensive world of resin conversion kits.


Even if I reach that point I won't paint them. My hands shake doing detail work so I'd be to concerned about errant brush or marker strokes.

So I ordered the 1/60 Exia. I just hope to God they don't do other 00's in that scale, well maybe virtue. Speaking of 00, anybody know the name of the Gundam Sestsuna sees in the very beginning when he's still a child warrior?


Well, they did make PG 00 Raiser. Even more hardcore than 1/60.

The Gundam Setsuna sees is 0 Gundam, only available in the 1/144 scale.
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:50 pm

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Gutter Bunny wrote:Be scared...you'll be wanting to paint them soon enough.


It's worse when one enters the phase of customizing via kitbashing and/or scratchbuilding or perhaps the expensive world of resin conversion kits.


Even if I reach that point I won't paint them. My hands shake doing detail work so I'd be to concerned about errant brush or marker strokes.

So I ordered the 1/60 Exia. I just hope to God they don't do other 00's in that scale, well maybe virtue. Speaking of 00, anybody know the name of the Gundam Sestsuna sees in the very beginning when he's still a child warrior?


Well, they did make PG 00 Raiser. Even more hardcore than 1/60.

The Gundam Setsuna sees is 0 Gundam, only available in the 1/144 scale.


Yeah I saw the 00 raiser but I'm not sure what size figure it'll fit. It's a bit pricey but if it fits the Exia I'll be down. Then again I got the Robot Damashii version of the riser and seven sword so I'm good there.
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:51 pm

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That 00 *twitch* it, it has lights and sounds *twitch* I I oh God, a GN III sword… *giggity, giggity* (cleans up mess) I have the Robot Damashii GN III and it doesn't fold, or am I missing something?
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby Blurrz » Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:58 pm

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While Damaashi's got better detail and articulation they lack playability. The Kits have everything though...
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:25 pm

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Blurrz wrote:While Damaashi's got better detail and articulation they lack playability. The Kits have everything though...


I assume then the sword doesn't fold? I gotta say the kits got about the same level of articulation. I don't know what the standard is for articulation in the action figure market but I feel whatever these kits don't have I don't need.
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby Convotron » Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:54 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:That 00 *twitch* it, it has lights and sounds *twitch* I I oh God, a GN III sword… *giggity, giggity* (cleans up mess) I have the Robot Damashii GN III and it doesn't fold, or am I missing something?


I saw photos of the GN Sword III(a Tamashii Web exclusive item) for the Robot Damashii 00 Gundam and it was shown in the folded rifle mode.

From my comparison of the Robot Damashii 00 Gundam, Cherudim, and GN-X III A-Laws Type figures to their HG counterparts, I was pleased to find that the HG models have better sculpted detail and nearly equal articulation. I have to say that the level of design in HG level kits starting from about 2007 or so seem to be bridging the gap between model kit and action figure.

Now I'm not downplaying RD figures, I just personally think that for Gundam, I prefer the HG kits(to keep comparisons on nearly the same size level as RD Gundam figures are slightly smaller than 1/144 scale) over the RD action figures. I have the Eva Unit 01 and Unit 02 RD figures and they're excellent action figures, probably the best NGE action figures within their price range.
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