The Energon Pub

Supercollider wrote:Or perhaps if all Alt-modes were made available for a fixed time after the weapons update. Then everyone could reset any "un-resetable" bots at the same time. I'm no programmer but that sounds easier than implementing alt-rotation.

Just a thought.

[EDIT] - which OS just answered...

I like that idea a lot better than "It's how it's gonna be so just suck it up and get slagged or change because I've forced you to."

Goodness gracious, I can tell that the "change is coming" approach very well could run me (among others) off.

Swell. And here comes the whole "QS is a bad-guy/jerk/ungrateful/etc." situation. I'm not afraid of change, I just think that in order to fix something the status quo doesn't need to be completely decimated just to FIX some weapon problems. Then again, what do I know? I don't program. I don't play at home. Heck, I'm not even part of a clan or a crew on here.

And before anyone gets their energon undies in a bunch, realize that I'm all for OS and anyone else that wants to work towards bettering the game whether that's programming, tourney creation, mission creation, alt modes, etc. etc. I welcome new blood--it allows for the betterment of the whole situation. However, I don't think the best approach for someone new is to come in and start spouting off things like "Evolve or Die" and "My way or the highway." Those things just do one thing--Completely piss off the loyal following. Just ask Dong Murphy.

Word.

Redimus wrote:

Thunderscream wrote:

Omega Sentinel wrote:

QuietStorm wrote:So with Punches/Kick being downsized, then the fact that I have high strength becomes a problem.

Yep

So how will this affect our character's ability to resist damage? I know END is supposed to do this more than STR, but STR also determines how much armor we can fit to our bots.

The way I understand it, it shouldnt be affected.

Correct.

Deadboy wrote:All sounds great to me, I've never cared much about which alt I used anyway, and the only unique one I have I would even remotely mind losing is permanently attached to my account...

Sounds to me like finding a good build is going to get a lot more complicated, which is for the good.

So is there going to be an announcement when the changes are made and are you willing to give us an ETA?

Thanks. It should be fun for everyone.

I was shooting for next week but I'm going to be out of town this weekend so I'm shooting for the week after next now.

I'm going to release a chart of the new weapons to replace the one in the "help" section one week before the change actually occurs so it won't be such a shock to everyone.

PS. I like the idea of opening up all the alt modes when the weapons are released. That will probably be how I handle that.

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Omega Sentinel wrote:

DISCHARGE wrote:Will weapons be listed as no, short, medium, long and extra long recharge?

No

So this means that recharge times won't be posted?

What about a weapons "damage range"? I personally wouldn't show those (since we don't see the protective range of armor), but that's just my opinion.

Omega Sentinel wrote:PS. I like the idea of opening up all the alt modes when the weapons are released. That will probably be how I handle that.

Phew.

QuietStorm wrote:Goodness gracious, I can tell that the "change is coming" approach very well could run me (among others) off.

I would argue the LACK of change over the past few years runs more people off than improving the game would.

QuietStorm wrote:Swell. And here comes the whole "QS is a bad-guy/jerk/ungrateful/etc." situation. I'm not afraid of change, I just think that in order to fix something the status quo doesn't need to be completely decimated just to FIX some weapon problems. Then again, what do I know? I don't program.

This isn't a FIX. It's a rewrite.

QuietStorm wrote: However, I don't think the best approach for someone new is to come in and start spouting off things like "Evolve or Die" and "My way or the highway."

That is hardly my stance. I am making my every move known to the HMW planning forum and they have input on how things are progressing. Some people will disagree with some things that are happening and I have no control over that.

If the game changes it will be "evolve or die" and I think the HMW community as a whole is ready for that.

crazyfists wrote:thats a good point. the problem is that with what had occurred some people were removed while others were not. i do remember you being removed originally, but im sorry that you were kept on the new roster. youll be made an honorary member like the other mods.

thats really my mistake that you were taken off on one record, but kept in during the final adjustments.

ps: also ep is mia, if you read this ep come back from the dead.

I've been back from the dead for a while. I have no internet connection at home so I can only play at school or work and both are becoming increasingly difficult to do so with my senior design project for my electrical engineering degree.

Psychout wrote:

Omega Sentinel wrote:PS. I like the idea of opening up all the alt modes when the weapons are released. That will probably be how I handle that.

Phew.

one question I have will the weapons we have be automaticaly changed to what the new weapon system is or do we need to sell them off are re buy them

Symbiote Spiderman14 wrote:

one question I have will the weapons we have be automaticaly changed to what the new weapon system is or do we need to sell them off are re buy them

I am clearing out the entire armory before the rollout.

Working on a script that will reimburse you the energon you paid for all your weapons.

Then you will need to go shopping.

Omega Sentinel wrote:Then you will need to go shopping.

Wal-Mart or Target?

Thunderscream wrote:

Omega Sentinel wrote:Then you will need to go shopping.

Wal-Mart or Target?

Depends on the quality you desire? :p

Really? You've got to be kidding me. Ha ha ha!

Unreal. Wow. Unbelievable. Well...



Word.

Omega Sentinel wrote:

Symbiote Spiderman14 wrote:

one question I have will the weapons we have be automaticaly changed to what the new weapon system is or do we need to sell them off are re buy them

I am clearing out the entire armory before the rollout.

Working on a script that will reimburse you the energon you paid for all your weapons.

Then you will need to go shopping.

*blink* *blink*

Thank goodness I'm sitting on 2.5 million energon. It'll make it easier to try out a bunch of different weapons.

Deadboy wrote:

Omega Sentinel wrote:I am clearing out the entire armory before the rollout.

Working on a script that will reimburse you the energon you paid for all your weapons.

Then you will need to go shopping.

*blink* *blink*

Thank goodness I'm sitting on 2.5 million energon. It'll make it easier to try out a bunch of different weapons.

Yeah, I think a lot of people are going to be glad for the money they're sitting on.

I'm seeing some potential problems here even with reimbursment.

1. So, basically, there will be a whole new range of weapons with new strengths and weaknesses?
2. Will they have all-new names, or will some names be re-used?
3. Will skill and firepower be the unlocking stats?
4. What kind of information will be provided on the weapons? Vague adjectives or specific percentages?

as a side-request/suggestion, could you keep Battle Blades kickass? They've developed quite the mystique. Even if you make them proportionately expensive (as I'm assuming your new armory will follow some rime or reason) I'd hate to see them "nerfed." (Maybe have a lower level weapon actually titled "Nerf Battle Blades" ... or if there's a copyright problem "Foam Battle Blades..."

OptimusPrive wrote:1. So, basically, there will be a whole new range of weapons with new strengths and weaknesses?

Yep

OptimusPrive wrote:2. Will they have all-new names, or will some names be re-used?

Yes and Yes

OptimusPrive wrote:3. Will skill and firepower be the unlocking stats?

Yes

OptimusPrive wrote:4. What kind of information will be provided on the weapons? Vague adjectives or specific percentages?

Descriptions of what they are and their abilities.

OptimusPrive wrote:as a side-request/suggestion, could you keep Battle Blades kickass? They've developed quite the mystique.

Battle Blades do what they do because the weapons don't work. The only god-like weapon on the new scale is the Fusion Cannon and you are going to have to earn it.

Oh dear, I'm getting thoroughly unnerved by this whole "changing the weapons" thing, though I agree that it is a necessity. I just hope *hint* that Megatron Battle Swords, Black Magic and Elemental Powers are still in there. I would use Elemental Powers, if only it worked better. It certainly sounds like the kind of thing that should be amazing...

Black Guardian wrote:I would use Elemental Powers, if only it worked better. It certainly sounds like the kind of thing that should be amazing...

I always thought so. The next best thing is Black Magic (which is amazing) but it doesn't sound right for an Autobot.

Anyway, will we be reimbursed the value of our used weapons? Or the value we originally spent?

Caelus wrote:Or the value we originally spent?

Originally spent.

OS, I'm going to play devil's advocate here with what you're saying about opening up all the alts during this time for testing. One thing I hope you will take into consideration are the very rare alts. I know you have to do what you feel is the most fair during this period of time but what about the guys that have the megatron alt which were given as a tournament prize long ago. Alts like that mean a lot to the players that have them and a lot of times they've suffered through a bad configuration for a whiel to hang onto it.

While I'm not sure what to do about this but I just wanted to throw that out there as something to kick around with the group behind the scenes.
Thanks.
CT

ChocolateThunder wrote:OS, I'm going to play devil's advocate here with what you're saying about opening up all the alts during this time for testing. One thing I hope you will take into consideration are the very rare alts. I know you have to do what you feel is the most fair during this period of time but what about the guys that have the megatron alt which were given as a tournament prize long ago. Alts like that mean a lot to the players that have them and a lot of times they've suffered through a bad configuration for a whiel to hang onto it.

While I'm not sure what to do about this but I just wanted to throw that out there as something to kick around with the group behind the scenes.
Thanks.
CT

If someone could compile me a list of these alts (preferrably with images) I'll see what I can do.

Might take some time to go through, but the alt mode index has notes about certain alt mode icons made available as tournament prizes and the like.

I would personally like to see all the alts made available to everyone for a very short period I think it would bring more enjoyment to more players but thats just me

All info found here

September 2004 - This mode was made available to the Decepticons for two weeks as a prize for winning the War of Self Identity tournament


September 2004 - This mode was made available to the Decepticons for two weeks as a prize for winning the War of Self Identity tournament.


September 2004 - This mode was made available to the Decepticons for two weeks as a prize for winning the War of Self Identity tournament.


September 2004 - This mode was made available to the Decepticons for two weeks as a prize for winning the War of Self Identity tournament.


August 2004 - This mode was made available to the Decepticons for one week as their prize for winning the Quest for Megatron tournament, and subsequently retired.(But has been available now for sometime now to the Decepticons.)

Omega Sentinel wrote:

ChocolateThunder wrote:OS, I'm going to play devil's advocate here with what you're saying about opening up all the alts during this time for testing. One thing I hope you will take into consideration are the very rare alts. I know you have to do what you feel is the most fair during this period of time but what about the guys that have the megatron alt which were given as a tournament prize long ago. Alts like that mean a lot to the players that have them and a lot of times they've suffered through a bad configuration for a whiel to hang onto it.

While I'm not sure what to do about this but I just wanted to throw that out there as something to kick around with the group behind the scenes.
Thanks.
CT

If someone could compile me a list of these alts (preferrably with images) I'll see what I can do.

Or you could just fix the damn alt mode rotater like I suggested you do! Told you this would happen but did you listen to me? Noooooo.