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Theories on Transformers' reproduction

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Postby Tramp » Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:48 am

Auto Bot wrote:Maybe he's talking about digital "genetic" codes.
That is exactly what I am talking about.
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Postby Deadpool. » Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:55 am

Tramp wrote:Thunder Thruster has a point. That was a huge debate on the subject which was never resolved after 30 pages.


Looks like this might end up dragging that long too.
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Postby Tramp » Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:57 am

optronix91 wrote:
Tramp wrote:Thunder Thruster has a point. That was a huge debate on the subject which was never resolved after 30 pages.


Looks like this might end up dragging that long too.


I don't believe that is Damolisher's intention. He simply wants the thread locked out right. I just want to get back to the main topic and either hear more theories or discuss the theories already on the table.
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Postby Auto Bot » Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:55 am

Tramp wrote:
optronix91 wrote:
Tramp wrote:Thunder Thruster has a point. That was a huge debate on the subject which was never resolved after 30 pages.


Looks like this might end up dragging that long too.


I don't believe that is Damolisher's intention. He simply wants the thread locked out right. I just want to get back to the main topic and either hear more theories or discuss the theories already on the table.


We're halfway there. Just 30 pages more, and we can nail it!
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Postby Malicron » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:50 am

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The “gene” theory is sound. DNA is nothing more than a biological blue print and the equivalent of that would HAVE to be in a Transformer’s self repair systems, or else an arm would grow where a leg used to be. I think that these same nano-bots could combine and create a new Transformer, a combination of the donor robots, or parents.
I don’t see how this could be done INSIDE a robot, however. I also don’t think having a physically immature robot would make sense.
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Postby Counterpunch » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:05 am

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Whiner-tron wrote:The “gene” theory is sound. DNA is nothing more than a biological blue print and the equivalent of that would HAVE to be in a Transformer’s self repair systems, or else an arm would grow where a leg used to be. I think that these same nano-bots could combine and create a new Transformer, a combination of the donor robots, or parents.


Ok, here's the thing...all of this is plausable.

I acknowleged this with my earlier posting.

However, none of it is canonical. That being said, it's still plausable. The crux of the issue, is that in no credible media is this theory supported or reinforced.

What we do know about TF life, is that it originates at the Spark. Sparks are a part of the Matrix, Primus, Vector Sigma, and/or the AllSpark depending on the series. While TFs could replicate organisms which are similar to themselves, without this higher devine presence, their is nothing to grant the 'Spark of life' to the creation. It would not be a Transformer in the same way that a Spark endued robot is a Transformer.
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Postby Auto Bot » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:24 am

It's like every new bot is a new Adam. All created originally from the AllSpark.
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Postby Counterpunch » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:26 am

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Auto Bot wrote:It's like every new bot is a new Adam. All created originally from the AllSpark.


Epiphany!
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Postby Mkall » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:50 am

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Wow Damolisher, And here I thought that the 3 day ban would've put some sense into you. Consider this another warning. If I have my math right, one more and you'll be gone a lot longer than a few days

Tramp, while you've done nothing Warning-worthy that I can see, your posting style does have a nasty habit of winding up the other posters, case and point: see above. As a friendly suggestion which you may choose to follow or not, I'd suggest leaving this thread alone for the next day or so just to let things finally cool down

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Postby Auto Bot » Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:42 am

The Transformers universe is much bigger than just Cybertron. There's the Junkion planet, Sharkticon planet, Kranix's planet (that became dinner for Unicron), and so much more out there.

I have the opinion that each "race" of robots from different planets, may have their own different methods of procreation.

Based on tv series and movie alone, i don't recall seeing any kid bot in Cybertron. Wheelie is considered a "teenager" type of bot. So maybe on Cybertron alone, there's no "parenting" or bot sex. Just life creation from a spark.

On Kranix's planet, there's lots of kids. They even seem to have differing bot genders. So "parenting" can apply here.

On Junkion, it's probably bots creating bots. From the junk.

And a variety of other setups in the other planets.
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Postby Counterpunch » Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:04 pm

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Auto Bot wrote:The Transformers universe is much bigger than just Cybertron. There's the Junkion planet, Sharkticon planet, Kranix's planet (that became dinner for Unicron), and so much more out there.

I have the opinion that each "race" of robots from different planets, may have their own different methods of procreation.

Based on tv series and movie alone, i don't recall seeing any kid bot in Cybertron. Wheelie is considered a "teenager" type of bot. So maybe on Cybertron alone, there's no "parenting" or bot sex. Just life creation from a spark.

On Kranix's planet, there's lots of kids. They even seem to have differing bot genders. So "parenting" can apply here.

On Junkion, it's probably bots creating bots. From the junk.

And a variety of other setups in the other planets.


I'm still waiting on a reference to show Lithone being a TF or TF relative planet. "Transformer-like" =/= Transformer
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Postby Auto Bot » Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:17 pm

Lithone?

From what series?
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Postby Zombie Starscream » Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:18 pm

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The old Tf movie, I think.
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Postby ThunderThruster » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:02 pm

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unfortunatly Lithone has never been offically stated as being a TF colony or anything of the sort, but it is a popular theory that it is!
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Postby Zombie Starscream » Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:00 pm

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I wonder if any Lithones escaped the destruction of their planet?

Hmm.. as a secondary question, since in this thread it is assumed that a Tf can reproduce sexually, how does the male Tf know when the female Tf is attracted to him? I know with animals and possibly people, pheromones are used, but what of a Tf? Does he/she have to rely solely on body language (flrting, a smile) or is there a pheromone equivelant? Or does a male Tf just suddenly say to a female Tf "I love you, lets get married?" and thats it?
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Postby Tangent » Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:04 pm

Didnt only one escape? Then get eaten? Unlucky.
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Postby Damolisher » Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:31 pm

Zombie Starscream wrote:I wonder if any Lithones escaped the destruction of their planet?

Hmm.. as a secondary question, since in this thread it is assumed that a Tf can reproduce sexually, how does the male Tf know when the female Tf is attracted to him? I know with animals and possibly people, pheromones are used, but what of a Tf? Does he/she have to rely solely on body language (flrting, a smile) or is there a pheromone equivelant? Or does a male Tf just suddenly say to a female Tf "I love you, lets get married?" and thats it?


I'd assume they're built specifically for each other, with matching personalities, etc. Well, with the exception of Arcee, who I'd believe was an exception to that rule. If you take the UK Comic's example of what Arcee was built for, she was an attempt at warding off claims of sexism from females by the Autobots. But keep in mind that Elita and Optimus were built with a similar computer interface system, and are therefore boyfriend/girlfriend in the Cybertronian way, and Ironhide and the male Autobots and those other femmes aren't really in love, they're just old friends, since there's no conclusive evidence Chromia, Moonracer or Firestar were ever in love with Ironhide, Powerglide or Inferno. They're just close friends who must've worked or fought alongside one another at some time, going by their reactions.

And we saw the deal with Silverbolt and Blackarachnia.
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Postby Zombie Starscream » Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:43 pm

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That idea is interesting :-?
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Postby Damolisher » Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:52 pm

Well, it's kinda like, you've got certain types of VCR which only go with certain kinds of TV, for example. Same brand goes with same brand. It's why I think the whole "Courtship: thing Tramp keeps going on about being total and utter BS, because with a race of warring robots, and every robot being made is being used in the war, you'd have certain robots being compatible with others. That's like the whole "Sideswipe and Sunstreaker brothers" thing. I reckon they're made on similar technology. Same with "Fathers" and "Mothers." It's whoever builds you.
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Postby AUTOBOT STITH » Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:02 pm

Lighten up will you it is just a question.Dont be crule.
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Postby Malicron » Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:23 pm

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Damolisher wrote: That's like the whole "Sideswipe and Sunstreaker brothers" thing. I reckon they're made on similar technology. Same with "Fathers" and "Mothers." It's whoever builds you.


While I personally don’t agree with you, That IS a very good theory, I could quite easily see it being the case.
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Postby Damolisher » Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:27 pm

Well, I mean, it's like Quickswitch, right? The TV Commercial calls him Sixshot's son" and "Determined to make good where his Decepticon father went bad!", being that Quickswitch was from the 1988 line, and Sixshot was from the 87 line, coupled with the fact that they're both 6 changers, you could say that Quickswitch was built using similar technology to Sixshot, BY Sixshot, or that he's Sixshot Version 2.0, for example, like you get with computers, you've got software updates, etc.
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Postby Cyber Bishop » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:03 pm

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Ok, here is the deal.

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This bullshit has got to stop now.

Tramp you need to be more subjective and stop playing this "know it all" attitude because I am sick of getting complaints about it (and I do mean plenty of pm complaints). Mkall pointed it out correctly as your arrogant posting style riles up everyone..

Damolisher, if you see Tramp post then since you know that he riles you up simply stay away from his posts.

I get complaints about you two arguing all the time.

Damolisher come on, you are a seibs vet, do not let this pull you down.
Tramp yes you are rather new and everyone needs to be treated with respect HOWEVER when you post in a manner as you do, no respect comes to you.

Last warning for the both of you..
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Postby Damolisher » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:09 pm

Alright, man, fair call.
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Postby AUTOBOT STITH » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:27 pm

See its all good.Now who wants a cookie?
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