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News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:31 pm

No matter what personality, though, the new toy certainly looks good and captures the look far better than the previous Leader.

News Credits: 37 · by **SlyTF1** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:45 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
Zeedust wrote:
1984forever wrote:Looks more like Alpha Trion than Optimus Prime. I guess this is part of the movement to make Transformers more relatable to people by humanizing them more.

AoE was the worst. I don't even own it.

You know what would be a better way to make Transformers more relatable to people? Maybe you should let them have actual personalities.
Freakin' Rescue Bots gets that right, and it's meant to be accessible by Preschoolers. And yet the big-money summer blockbuster series either doesn't understand or doesn't care that the Transformers are the main characters in most versions.

And yeah, I walked out of AoE wishing I'd never walked in.

They had personalities.
What was Arcee's personality? Or Barricade's? Or Brawl's? Blackout's? Scorponok's? Bonecrusher's? Sideswipe's? Sideways's? Any of the Constructicons's? Ravage's? Grindor's? Jolt's? Dino's? Any of the Wreckers's? Any of the Dreads's? Any of the Dinobots's? Shockwave's? Even Soundwave's?

In just the films, I mean, not in any external media.

(I'll ask nothing of the KSI Prototypes as they get a pass for deliberately being personality-less drones)

I was talking about AOE. But Sideswipe always struck me as gleefully brash. Kind of like Crosshairs, but more reserved and more reliable. And the Dinobots obviously have some kind of code or mindset that draws them to follow the strongest. I think they were steeds for the Knights, but it's not made abundantly clear.

by **Ultra Markus** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:57 pm

as much as i enjoyed all the movie designs and some of the complexity with it
and this version does look better than the last i think ill scale back on the movie figues
unless there so awesome that ill get them anyway, what i really want to see is the new megatron
i want to see how they pull it off

News Credits: 4838 · by **william-james88** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 12:16 pm

SlyTF1 wrote:I was talking about AOE.

Yeah I had caught that, dont know why everyone suddenly jumped on this as a cue to bash the previous films. And in AOE Optimus actually had a personality, he was **** pissed and also dissapointed in humanity! Hound and Crosshairs also had personalities, quite different ones too. You can see how one was more keen on helping humans than the other. They seemed to at least have as much personality as the characters on any given episode from the first two seasons of G1.

Anyways, about this new Optimus, this is the toy I am now most curious of. Not the one I want the most, but definitely the one that intrigues me. My only complaint about the generations line is that its quite predictable, and thats kind of the point. The gimmick is universal and the designs are based on pre-existing toys (which is the whole point of a line based on G1). But this here is them bringing it to the next level of engineering and I am super excited to see how its accomplished. I want to know where that back of the truck goes. Oh man, cant wait to see actual pics of the toy and discover its transformation.

by **Silverwing** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:39 pm

I can only imagine how glorious the Takara version will look!

News Credits: 1 · by **bluecatcinema** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 3:26 pm

Not bad. Kind of looks like an improved version of the AoE model.

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 3:44 pm

Zeedust wrote:
1984forever wrote:Looks more like Alpha Trion than Optimus Prime. I guess this is part of the movement to make Transformers more relatable to people by humanizing them more.

AoE was the worst. I don't even own it.

You know what would be a better way to make Transformers more relatable to people? Maybe you should let them have actual personalities.
Freakin' Rescue Bots gets that right, and it's meant to be accessible by Preschoolers. And yet the big-money summer blockbuster series either doesn't understand or doesn't care that the Transformers are the main characters in most versions.

And yeah, I walked out of AoE wishing I'd never walked in.

What movie did you even watch?

Here is a small list of some of the Transformers in AoE that had personalities:

-Optimus Prime
-Bumblebee
-Lockdown
-Ratchet (that scene was sad.)
-Galvatron (crazy)
-Hound
-Drift (though, they didn't pay as much attention to him)
-Crosshairs
-Brains

And those are the main guys. I see no room for complaining. In fact, AoE was way better than the last ones when it comes to personalities. Optimus Prime being angry at the humans for killing Ratchet and starting to lose his desire to protect them is one good example. Any way you look at it, at least Optimus Prime and the other Autobots (for the most part) have more 3 dimensional personalities than in G1.

So it's not that they don't have personality. The problem is that they focus too much on the humans, and leave less time for character development of the Transformers. If we could get more moments of the Transformers interacting with each-other and building connections rather than the humans, it would be a lot better in my opinion. What do we get the toys of? The humans, or the Transformers?

Hellscream9999 wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
Kurona wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
Quantum Surge wrote:Can't wait to see this toy in hand...but we're 4 months from Toy Fair 2017.

...and 18 days from election day...

? What's that got to do with anything? Did either of the new candidates put in their manifesto that shutting down Toy Fair would be a priority or something?

You read too much into what I say.

Why shouldn't she? You posted stupid, off-topic stuff that serves no purpose, so, one would assume you had some hidden meaning behind it.

On a similar note, stay on topic please

I should have clarified that I was saying there's a lot happening in the near future that I can't be involved in. But, I suppose that was too much of an enigma for everyone to understand. (Really, that was something that I should've clarified instead of leaving it to interpretation. Shyamalan anyone?)

And fine. I'm done now.

News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 3:55 pm

Was Galvatron crazy? He basically just seemed the same as Megatron in the previous movies.

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 3:59 pm

Kurona wrote:Was Galvatron crazy? He basically just seemed the same as Megatron in the previous movies.

We was still kinda trying to get himself together for a while from what I remember. He at least wasn't his normal self for a while. In the previous movies he was more about intimidation and domination, while him as Galvatron seemed more "I gonna kill you! RAHR! I HAVE NO SOUL!"

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 4:16 pm

Guys ... this is a discussion about toys from the upcoming movie, not a thread to discuss personalities of characters from previous movies, there are threads for that!

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:32 am

Via the Snakas toy blog, we have another potential look at the new Transformers: The Last Knight Optimus Prime figure - supposedly a voyager class toy, but more on that in a second - that we saw revealed in the colour test the other day. This new image seems to show the figure next to the Age of Extinction/Lost Age Leader class toy of Optimus in his knightly garb, so as far as we're concerned, the news is just adding confusion to the size matter. Still, check it out below!

News Credits: 6 · by **BeastProwl** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:45 am

Looks really cheap and poorly made, but that's just my opinion.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:20 am

BeastProwl wrote:Looks really cheap and poorly made, but that's just my opinion.

Nope, not just yours. Going to agree with you.

by **Microraptor** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:35 am

The grey plastic is a bit distracting, but as far as i'm concerned this sculpt is a winner!

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:11 am

Microraptor wrote:The grey plastic is a bit distracting, but as far as i'm concerned this sculpt is a winner!

I agree. Considering the source material is an armored knight with no kibble and human proportions turning into a modern Earth truck I think it does a fantastic job of pulling that off. And if this is a Voyager then that's pretty amazing as it looks even better than the AOE Leader.

I imagine we're seeing this so soon because it's a first edition or whatever that will be released months ahead of the rest of the line.

Emerje

News Credits: 104 · by **Cyber Bishop** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:17 am

Burn wrote:
BeastProwl wrote:Looks really cheap and poorly made, but that's just my opinion.

Nope, not just yours. Going to agree with you.

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So will I.. Ugh..

News Credits: 61 · by **EvasionModeBumblebee** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:28 am

The mold looks great (Someone mentioned it might scale nice with Lockdown), but I can't say the same for the paint. Particularly on the head and torso, the paint just seems like a cheap knockoff.

And we all know how Bumblebee feels about those.

News Credits: 4838 · by **william-james88** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:05 am

The initial image showed us there would be very little paint apps but it still looks dissapointing, especially when compared to the AD Leader (not really fair). The reason I think they did the comparison is ecause this would be Hasbro's first offering of that Knight look Optimus had at the end of the film, with the forearms and new feet and AD 31 is the only other figure to have those feature. Those shoulder pins look huge so I think its a voyager. Transformation looks fun though, I will own this toy in one way or another but I would like to see how the Takara version looks (or how cheap I cold get the Hasbro version for).

by **YoungPrime** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:32 am

Typical cheap looking Bayformers crap!

Here's to hopes that Retail will have the common sense this coming Summer not to let this goofy line interfere with the highly anticipated Generations TR waves releasing around the same time (Overlord! Trypicon, etc).

by **Shuttershock** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:27 am

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:The mold looks great (Someone mentioned it might scale nice with Lockdown), but I can't say the same for the paint. Particularly on the head and torso, the paint just seems like a cheap knockoff.

And we all know how Bumblebee feels about those.

He claims superiority but then steals the knockoff's style anyway?

News Credits: 15 · by **Ravage XK** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:57 am

I don't like any of it.

Any chance its just a roughly painted prototype? Upper thighs don't match the lower thighs.

News Credits: 4838 · by **william-james88** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:00 am

Ravage XK wrote:I don't like any of it.

Any chance its just a roughly painted prototype? Upper thighs don't match the lower thighs.

It is a test figure, yes, but the paint is made to look like the released version, as we know from the paint apps guide. So dont expect anything else aside from how the light will be reflected and the shade of the colours.

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:05 am

The sculptwork looks OK but the engineering looks kinda primitive, and the paint is just miserable.

On the plus side, if this is a Voyager and easy enough to disassemble, I might have found a candidate for converting into Nemesis Prime.

News Credits: 37 · by **SlyTF1** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:31 am

I'm going to assume that this is just a prototype and the actual released version will have better paint applications. I'm going to assume that.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:32 am

SlyTF1 wrote:I'm going to assume that this is just a prototype and the actual released version will have better paint applications. I'm going to assume that.

Yeah, this is a test shot. Probably not fully representative of the final product.