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From what we can see she seems like a bit of a rip off. There's nothing about the figure that really looks like it needs to be sold as a Voyager. With Hot Rod he's got a high level of engineering and still came with a bunch of accessories to pad the price. Override just looks like a Deluxe. She still has visibly hollow arms, doesn't seem all that complex, and we haven't seen any signs of extra accessories. So what exactly are we paying extra for that makes her more worthy of being a Voyager on her own than Hot Rod?

Emerje

Great looking box and figure, but who's idea was it to go back to ugly rope ties and no protective plastic window? The Legacy line has some great figures and box art, but the windows missing is very bothersome. How many figures are touched and mangled on store shelves? Hopefully this is not the new norm for Hasbro. It's fine for a $10 child's toy, but not for $30+ collectible figures.

Emerje wrote:From what we can see she seems like a bit of a rip off. There's nothing about the figure that really looks like it needs to be sold as a Voyager. With Hot Rod he's got a high level of engineering and still came with a bunch of accessories to pad the price. Override just looks like a Deluxe. She still has visibly hollow arms, doesn't seem all that complex, and we haven't seen any signs of extra accessories. So what exactly are we paying extra for that makes her more worthy of being a Voyager on her own than Hot Rod?

Emerje

Maybe you could wait for the actual reveal before playing seat toy designer with only going off leaked photos and reviews from people who buy stolen toys from warehouses.

That box hit me in the feels, almost like the old days.

The shape of the box is evocative of 1980s G1, but the color scheme reminds me the most of Earthrise.

Randomhero wrote:

Emerje wrote:From what we can see she seems like a bit of a rip off. There's nothing about the figure that really looks like it needs to be sold as a Voyager. With Hot Rod he's got a high level of engineering and still came with a bunch of accessories to pad the price. Override just looks like a Deluxe. She still has visibly hollow arms, doesn't seem all that complex, and we haven't seen any signs of extra accessories. So what exactly are we paying extra for that makes her more worthy of being a Voyager on her own than Hot Rod?

Emerje

Maybe you could wait for the actual reveal before playing seat toy designer with only going off leaked photos and reviews from people who buy stolen toys from warehouses.

I don't watch reviews. I'm going off a box that doesn't show any signs of extras and credible leaks that haven't mentioned them either.

Emerje

Hauler time: There's that screaming face that PrimevsPrime mentioned, but also it looks like they maybe retooled the claw to remove the Airlock connection?

I'm not sure how I feel about that packaging, it's nice that they incorporated the Velocitron logo, but I don't like the nae "Velocitron Speedia 500 Collection", and the lettering makes it look like a dollar store bootleg toy. Either way, I'll definitely be buying Override.

I would say the name is designed to be like race names today (like the Le Mans 24 Hours, the Indy 500 etc) which makes sense given the line.

What I wonder is, why is Hauler in a race?

ZeroWolf wrote:I would say the name is designed to be like race names today (like the Le Mans 24 Hours, the Indy 500 etc) which makes sense given the line.

What I wonder is, why is Hauler in a race?

he's there to lift the wrecked cars off the track

just annoyed that Cosmos will be 1 per box...

Nemesis Primal wrote:Hauler time:

The one Velocitron I really needs to get.

Haulers the only one that's a must buy for me. He's one of the last Season 1 - 2 characters that's never gotten a modern release.

More Velocitron news for you. While we had our look at the fastest member yesterday, now we have what is sure to be the slowest, Hauler. Not only is this a look at him in packaging but it is also our best look at the toy yet. Then again, we all knew what he would look like. He isn't exactly like Grapple though, he does come with a new screaming head, so he isn't a straight redeco. As with all toys in this collection, he comes packaged in alt mode. Now we've seen both voyagers in the line in their box.

Here is the complete list of toys in this line: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... own/46923/

ZeroWolf wrote:What I wonder is, why is Hauler in a race?

Judging from the box art for Hauler and Override it's actually a foot race.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:From what we can see she seems like a bit of a rip off. There's nothing about the figure that really looks like it needs to be sold as a Voyager. With Hot Rod he's got a high level of engineering and still came with a bunch of accessories to pad the price. Override just looks like a Deluxe. She still has visibly hollow arms, doesn't seem all that complex, and we haven't seen any signs of extra accessories. So what exactly are we paying extra for that makes her more worthy of being a Voyager on her own than Hot Rod?

Emerje

I tend to agree. Unless there's something else in the box that we cannot see and has not been shown anywhere yet (unlikely) to push her into Voyager class territory, it seems Hasbro is playing fast and loose with the definition of a Voyager now.

There's nowhere near the level of engineering Hot Rod had here. Granted the car mode is a bit bigger than Hot Rod's, and the robot mode ends up just a tiny bit taller than Hot Rod, but it still seems a bit off to price her as a Voyager.

Don't think her gun / spoiler is enough to bump her up a price class.

I think I prefer Road Hauler, but this would have been a good opportunity for Cybertron Mudflap.

And for those wondering why he is in a race, maybe he is "crash recovery"

Flashwave wrote:I think I prefer Road Hauler, but this would have been a good opportunity for Cybertron Mudflap.

And for those wondering why he is in a race, maybe he is "crash recovery"

I was thinking that too, but I think HasTak probably had flashbacks of all the Mudflaps from Transformers past shelfwarming like crazy...although I don't know if a fourth reuse of this mold will be any better.

(Crash recovery does make sense for his inclusion here at least!)

Oh. Another screaming head.

You know, I appreciate having a different expression and all, but I don't love it when he's gonna be the only guy in the group just screaming his head off while the other just stand there stoically.

Flashwave wrote:I think I prefer Road Hauler, but this would have been a good opportunity for Cybertron Mudflap.

And for those wondering why he is in a race, maybe he is "crash recovery"

We don't have to speculate, it was in the Wreckers: Tread and Circuits miniseries. Take a look, it's in a book!

I agree that the voyager price for Override is agregious. I mean I am sure there's a reason for it, but it's not obvious and the cynical side of me thinks the fact that the boxes are alt mode related and that figure ends up with a longer alt mode means the "voyager" aspect simply means they end up in a voyager sized box, which gives it a voyager price tag.
On the shelf, in alt mode, the voyager designation will make sense from a visual stand point (next to hauler, leader black convoy and the smaller alt mode deluxes), but it's pretty skeevy.

Now I wanted to talk about something else. I see A LOT of fans saying that Hasbro is releasing this deco now and will probably release the Scourge deco later, in a smart but rather greedy move.

But honestly, I think once again, fans are giving Hasbro corporate too much credit and just don't get it. As Sabr said, I think that Hasbro corporate is releasing this as Scourge. This is their interpretation of Scourge. We now have a better understanding than ever before of what goes on. Cheetor's very light blue, Hot Rod's red, and now this. These are all corporate decisions based on whatever they think which is basically the history of recent sales leading to easily IDing toys on shelves.

So, according to Hasbro, this is Scourge/Black Convoy, as we see from the faction symbols. The deco is wrong and we aren't getting a more accurate Scourge deco from them.

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Flashwave wrote:I think I prefer Road Hauler, but this would have been a good opportunity for Cybertron Mudflap.

And for those wondering why he is in a race, maybe he is "crash recovery"

We don't have to speculate, it was in the Wreckers: Tread and Circuits miniseries. Take a look, it's in a book!

Munkky wrote:I'm not sure how I feel about that packaging, it's nice that they incorporated the Velocitron logo, but I don't like the nae "Velocitron Speedia 500 Collection", and the lettering makes it look like a dollar store bootleg toy. Either way, I'll definitely be buying Override.

I was thinking the same thing. It's also a thick and heavy font which doesn't seem very evocative of Velocitron.

Nice, that's pretty cool!

I new they'd do It eventually. Now we just need a generations selects grapple colored hauler.

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:I new they'd do It eventually. Now we just need a generations selects grapple colored hauler.

Just buy Grapple.