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WWE Canadian wrestler Benoit, wife and son found dead

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Postby Robinson » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:02 pm

Hotrod wrote:
Venomous Prime wrote:I'd guess Dean Malenko and Chavo Guerrero.

Dean and Chavo were two of Benoit's best friends.


I have heard one was Chavo. I think the other was in management.


Dean technically could be considered management since he is a road agent and trainer essentially.
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Postby Damolisher » Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:25 pm

MaikeruKun wrote:It is sad but im not sad about chris at all stupid murderer. Im just sad about his wife and son.Im not in to wrestling at all i cant stand fake things.


*Rolls eyes* If you can't stand fake things, why watch cartoons?
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Postby Mighty Scorponok » Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:56 am

Damolisher.........That was something mean to say, mainly because people who watch wrestling will find it offensive. Mainly because of Benoit legacy in that brand of work. Whatever cause him to do it was a tragedy, but please dont trash his achievents in WCW and WWE.On the personal note, if you knew what was going through his mind, and what caused him to do it, maybe you wouldnt call him stupid. People are quick to judge others and it gets offensive.
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Re: Damolisher............

Postby Burn » Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:07 am

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Mighty Scorponok wrote:Damolisher.........That was something mean to say, mainly because people who watch wrestling will find it offensive. Mainly because of Benoit legacy in that brand of work. Whatever cause him to do it was a tragedy, but please dont trash his achievents in WCW and WWE.On the personal note, if you knew what was going through his mind, and what caused him to do it, maybe you wouldnt call him stupid. People are quick to judge others and it gets offensive.


Might wanna look at who you're accussing of being offensive before you start offending people ...
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Postby Rebirth Megatron » Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:13 am

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http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/benoitpressures

This is scary to me because..I heard from my mom that my dad had trouble coping with my brother's Autism. He was in denial for a long time and even now he doesn't fully understand his own son's condition. I wonder if my Dad ever felt like doing this to him?

It's not uncommon for family to go through high amounts of stress when dealing with an intellectually disabled dependant. Maybe Chris just couldn't deal like they said and did what he did.

Maybe he and Nancy got into another fight over Daniel and Benoit just lost it and before he knew it....

We'll never know but..it seems that this was possibly the motive. A true tragedy. If Benoit took that ladies offer in Vancouver...he might have had the help he needed for Daniel...
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Postby Robinson » Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:19 am

The sad part to all of this is that Benoit may have felt he was doing his family a favor. Almost like he was trying to be merciful.
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Postby Rebirth Megatron » Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:56 am

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Robinson wrote:The sad part to all of this is that Benoit may have felt he was doing his family a favor. Almost like he was trying to be merciful.
For all the wrong reasons...

He just...couldn't take it anymore.
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Postby Robinson » Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:01 am

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Robinson wrote:The sad part to all of this is that Benoit may have felt he was doing his family a favor. Almost like he was trying to be merciful.
For all the wrong reasons...

He just...couldn't take it anymore.


Of course, by no means am I saying he was right. But in his mind he may have thought so, and that is something unfortunately we will never know.
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Postby Rebirth Megatron » Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:06 am

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Robinson wrote:
Dynamax wrote:
Robinson wrote:The sad part to all of this is that Benoit may have felt he was doing his family a favor. Almost like he was trying to be merciful.
For all the wrong reasons...

He just...couldn't take it anymore.


Of course, by no means am I saying he was right. But in his mind he may have thought so, and that is something unfortunately we will never know.
Yeah. Sadly.
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Postby Robinson » Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:55 pm

This keeps getting wierder and wierder.

Fox News is reporting that Chris Benoit's profile entry on the Wikipedia website was changed to note that he missed the WWE Vengeance pay-per-view, "due to personal issues, stemming from the death of his wife Nancy" 14 hours before the Benoit family was found dead.

The edit was made a minute past midnight Eastern Time. It was an anonymous edit from the IP address 69.120.111.23 using the Internet service provider Optimum Online. The IP was traced to a (so far) anonymous user originating in Stamford, CT, which of course is the headquarters of World Wrestling Entertainment. Then just one hour later after the first edit reversion, another anonymous edit by 125.63.148.173 using unwiredAustralia.com.au, a wireless Internet service provider, was made adding about the aforementioned personal issues: "which according to several pro wrestling websites is attributed to the passing of Benoit's wife, Nancy." That edit was reverted just under 20 minutes later, with the comment: "Saying 'several pro wrestling websites' is still not reliable information." Further investigation shows that the IP address used to make the first edit is located in Connecticut, but the IP address is not linked to any computers or servers used by the WWE. The second edit was made by a computer in Australia from a wireless network.

You can see the Wikipedia edit in question at this link. If you have a Wikipedia account set to EST, it says "Revision as of 00:01, 25 June 2007". WikiNews.org also has more on this story, which you can read here.

Web Time Stamps Indicate Benoit Death Reported About 14 Hours Before Police Found Bodies

Thursday , June 28, 2007
By Blane Bachelor

An anonymous user operating a computer traced to Stamford, Conn. — home to World Wrestling Entertainment — posted an entry to pro wrestler Chris Benoit's biography on Wikipedia.org announcing the death of his wife Nancy about 14 hours before police in suburban Atlanta said they found her body along with her husband's and that of their 7-year-old son, FOXNews.com has learned.

Employees at Wikipedia.com said the posting went live on their site on Monday at 12:01 a.m. Eastern Standard Time. Police, however, said they found the bodies Monday at 2:30 p.m. EDT.

Wikipedia.org's computers are set to record Standard and Universal Time, a spokesman told FOXNews.com.

The posting reads: “Chris Benoit was replaced by [[Johnny Nitro]] for the ECW Championship match at Vengeance, as Benoit was not there due to personal issues, stemming from the death of his wife Nancy.”

The posting was apparently made in reference to Benoit's scheduled appearance on Sunday night at an Extreme Championship Wrestling event in Texas, with the last phrase noted in red to indicate an edit made to the original entry.

An employee from Wikipedia.org told FOXNews.com that he called and left a message with investigative authorities in Fayetteville, Ga., at around 11 a.m. EDT on Tuesday, after the posting was brought to the attention of the St. Petersburg, Fla.-based Web site.

“I chat with other editors on IRC -- Internet relay chat -- and somebody pointed it out to me on a relay chat and that it came from a Stamford connection, and that it took place at midnight Eastern Standard Time on Monday morning,” said Wikipedia.org volunteer coordinator Cary Bass. “I called and left a message with the police department.”

The computer-generated time and date stamp of the Benoit entry are listed as 4:01, 25 June 2007. Wikipedia.org lists its entries according to Universal Time, also known as Greenwich Mean Time.

A message left by FOXNews.com with Lt. Tommy Pope of the Fayette County Sheriff’s Department was not immediately returned.

Investigators so far have ruled the Benoit killings as a double homicide-suicide.

Wikipedia.org claims to be one of the largest reference Web sites, and is written collaboratively by users from around the world. Approved users can make submissions and change entries that are posted on the site almost immediately. Bass said the site is constantly monitored to correct inaccuracies.

Bass said when there is a high-profile case, such as the Benoit killlings, Wikipedia.org limits postings to registered users, which is now indicated at the top of the Benoit entry. According to the listed history on the Benoit entry, the computer used to post the 12:01 a.m. entry had a Stamford, Conn., Internet Protocol — or IP — address, a numeric designation that is assigned to every computer with an Internet connection, and that same address has been used to post about a dozen other messages on the site, dating back to May 16, 2007.

FOXNews.com also has learned, through widely posted Web reports, that former pro wrestler Sherri Martel, who was found dead on June 15, was linked to former wrestler Kevin Sullivan — ex-husband of Nancy Benoit.

Martel, who had a reputation as one of the top managers in pro wrestling, was found dead at her mother’s home in near Birmingham, Ala., on June 15. She was 49.

Investigators, who have not yet determined Martel's cause of death, say foul play is not suspected but that Martel did not die of natural causes.
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Postby Cyber Bishop » Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:01 pm

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Robinson wrote:This keeps getting wierder and wierder.


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Postby Lord Grimlock » Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:33 pm

i don't feel sad one bit i feel sad that his wife and son had to be killed why didn't that poor bastard kill himself not his 7 year old son and 43 year old wife.benoit was was my favorite wrestler not any more now all he is to me is a murderer and i'm glad hes dead you don't kill your 7 year old son that has a form of retardation.
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Postby Hotrod » Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:34 pm

The latest new is the office of Beniots personal doctor has been raided by police. I get the feeling this is going to get uglier and uglier. In order to protect pro wrestling Vince is going to have to make some kind of public move against steriods, because that is the way the media is going to run with this story.
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Postby Damolisher » Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:09 pm

Mighty Scorponok wrote:Damolisher.........That was something mean to say, mainly because people who watch wrestling will find it offensive. Mainly because of Benoit legacy in that brand of work. Whatever cause him to do it was a tragedy, but please dont trash his achievents in WCW and WWE.On the personal note, if you knew what was going through his mind, and what caused him to do it, maybe you wouldnt call him stupid. People are quick to judge others and it gets offensive.


Open your eyes. I was quoting somebody, hence why it says "Other user said..." I wrestle too. I know more than to call the business "fake."
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Postby Hairball178 » Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:36 am

I've wondered about whether William Regal already knew something about the murders. He never mentions a thing about Benoit outside of wrestling, which seemed fishy to me. Then this whole thing about the text messages came up, and I wondered if he may have received one.
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Postby Phategod1 » Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:00 am

Hairball178 wrote:I've wondered about whether William Regal already knew something about the murders. He never mentions a thing about Benoit outside of wrestling, which seemed fishy to me. Then this whole thing about the text messages came up, and I wondered if he may have received one.

I wonder as well But After reading the stuff about wiki Sheri Martel I'm wondering if KEvin Sullivan has been questioned at all.
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Postby Hotrod » Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:55 am

Phategod1 wrote:
Hairball178 wrote:I've wondered about whether William Regal already knew something about the murders. He never mentions a thing about Benoit outside of wrestling, which seemed fishy to me. Then this whole thing about the text messages came up, and I wondered if he may have received one.

I wonder as well But After reading the stuff about wiki Sheri Martel I'm wondering if KEvin Sullivan has been questioned at all.

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Postby Hairball178 » Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:25 pm

I've wondered that too. I keep thinking that Martel's death would be overlooked and forgotten altogether if not for all this with Benoit right now.
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Postby Venomous Prime » Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:32 pm

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Below is the full, unedited apology:

"... Hey everyone. I am here to talk about the wikipedia comment that was left by myself. I just want to say that it was an incredible coincidence. Last weekend, I had heard about Chris Benoit no showing Vengeance because of a family emergency, and I had heard rumors about why that was. I was reading rumors and speculation about this matter online, and one of them included that his wife may have passed away, and I did the wrong thing by posting it on wikipedia to spite there being no evidence. I posted my speculation on the situation at the time and I am deeply sorry about this, and I was just as shocked as everyone when I heard that this actually would happen in real life. It is one of those things that just turned into a huge coincidence. That night I found out that what I posted, ended up actually happening, a 1 in 10,000 chance of happening, or so I thought. I was beyond wrong for posting wrongful information, and I am sorry to everyone for this. I just want everyone to know it was stupid of me, and I will never do anything like this again. I just posted something that was at that time a piece of wrong unsourced information that is typical on wikipedia, as it is done all the time.

Nonetheless, I feel incredibly bad for all the attention this got because of the fact that what I said turned out to be the truth. Like I said it was just a major coincidence, and I will never vandalize anything on wikipedia or post wrongful information. I've learned from this experience. I just can't believe what I wrote was actually the case, I've remained stunned and saddened over it.

I wish not to reveal my identity so I can keep me and my family out of this since they have nothing to do with anything. I am not connected to WWE or Benoit at all in anyway. I am from Stamford as the IP address shows, and I am just an everyday individual who posted a wrongful remark at the time that received so much attention because it turned out to actually happen. I will say again I didn't know anything about the Benoit tragedy, it was a terrible coincidence that I never saw coming.

I hope this puts an end to this speculation that someone knew about the tragedy before it was discovered. It was just a rumor that I had heard about from other people online who were speculating what the family emergency Chris was attending to. I made a big mistake by posting this comment on his page, since all we had were what we thought was going on and nothing about what actually was going on yet, and sadly what happened turned out to be my speculation at the time. I assumed wiki would edit out my information, which they did, so thats why I didn't go back to edit it out myself.

I know I keep repeating it but I feel terrible about the mainstream coverage this has received, since it was only a huge coincidence and a terrible event that should of never happened. I am not sure how to react, as hearing about my message becoming a huge part of the Benoit slayings made me feel terrible as everyone believes that it is connected to the tragedy, but it was just an awful coincidence. That is all I have to say, I will never post anything here again unless it is pure fact, no spam nothing like that. Thank you, and let this end this chapter of the Benoit story, and hopefully one day we will find out why this tragedy ever actually happened."
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Postby DodgeRam2500 » Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:45 pm

This is all too confusing...
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Postby D-340 » Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:40 pm

DodgeRam2500 wrote:This is all too confusing...


You got that right....

I'm still in shock.
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Postby Mr.RobotoAutoMan » Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:41 pm

iam also getting confused. :-? :???: my head hurts
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Postby Master Shake » Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:39 pm

Benoit's doctor now faces a 7-count indictment:

http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070702/ENT03/70702022

BY HARRY R. WEBER

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ATLANTA — The personal doctor of a pro wrestler who killed his wife and son before committing suicide was charged Monday with improperly dispensing painkillers and other drugs to other patients.

The seven-count indictment said Dr. Phil Astin, physician to wrestler Chris Benoit, dispensed drugs including Percocet, Xanax, Lorcet and Vicoprofen between April 2004 and September 2005. The recipients were identified in the indictment by the initials O.G. and M.J.; Benoit’s initials were not listed.

Astin was expected to make an initial court appearance Monday afternoon.

A separate criminal complaint made public Monday said Astin had written prescriptions for about 1 million doses of controlled substances over the past two years, including “significant quantities” of injectable testosterone cypionate, an anabolic steroid.
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