CBratetron wrote:Ick!
That Allspark nonsense has become canon.
Uh, yeah, the term has been canon since Beast Machines.CBratetron wrote:Ick!
That Allspark nonsense has become canon.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
And don't forget that since this is the Takara Tomy half, it has been a Generation 1 term ever since they fused the Beast Era (Beast Wars, Beast Wars Metal, Beast Wars Return, Beast Wars II, and Beast Wars Neo) with the Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers continuity.Sabrblade wrote:Uh, yeah, the term has been canon since Beast Machines.CBratetron wrote:Ick!
That Allspark nonsense has become canon.
Technically the first use of the term "AllSpark" in any Japanese continuity was in the Japanese dub of the live action 2007 movie, since the Allspark of Beast Machines was renamed the "Matrix Zone" in the Beast Wars Returns dub.KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:And don't forget that since this is the Takara Tomy half, it has been a Generation 1 term ever since they fused the Beast Era (Beast Wars, Beast Wars Metal, Beast Wars Return, Beast Wars II, and Beast Wars Neo) with the Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers continuity.Sabrblade wrote:Uh, yeah, the term has been canon since Beast Machines.CBratetron wrote:Ick!
That Allspark nonsense has become canon.
Good question. The JG1 cartoon continuity is already jam-packed as it is.KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:Which has me wonder if this will be tied into the manga-portion of the Primax continuity, try to squeeze it into the animated/Headmasters portion, or be a new branch.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Good point on the first part. I was thinking more of the concept tied to the original animated series, and debuted in Beast Wars (episode 29, and not the episode I was thinking about - episode 40). Not the physical object in the live action movies... Or the version in Beast Machines.Sabrblade wrote:Technically the first use of the term "AllSpark" in any Japanese continuity was in the Japanese dub of the live action 2007 movie, since the Allspark of Beast Machines was renamed the "Matrix Zone" in the Beast Wars Returns dub.KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:And don't forget that since this is the Takara Tomy half, it has been a Generation 1 term ever since they fused the Beast Era (Beast Wars, Beast Wars Metal, Beast Wars Return, Beast Wars II, and Beast Wars Neo) with the Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers continuity.Sabrblade wrote:Uh, yeah, the term has been canon since Beast Machines.CBratetron wrote:Ick!
That Allspark nonsense has become canon.Good question. The JG1 cartoon continuity is already jam-packed as it is.KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:Which has me wonder if this will be tied into the manga-portion of the Primax continuity, try to squeeze it into the animated/Headmasters portion, or be a new branch.
Or, it could be another retelling like the various Henkei! Henkei! manga series were.
DARK ENERGON wrote:Wow. Its about time the botcons getting another eastern treatment aside from the free comic from takara/tomi packaging.On what manga mag are they going to be printed on?
Kerokero Ace.DARK ENERGON wrote:Wow. Its about time the botcons getting another eastern treatment aside from the free comic from takara/tomi packaging.On what manga mag are they going to be printed on?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Kerokero Ace.DARK ENERGON wrote:Wow. Its about time the botcons getting another eastern treatment aside from the free comic from takara/tomi packaging.On what manga mag are they going to be printed on?
Yes. It was awesome! As were Star Gate Sen'eki (The Battle of the Star Gate), the RobotMasters manga (what little I could understand of it), and Pretender Gaiden (Tale of the Pretenders), which were also works by Tsushima. The guy knows how to tell cool stories.KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:Besides, Sabrblade, I was going to ask you this - Have you read the Transformers Animated: The Cool?
It could happen.KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:And also, do you think that we may see the debut of this story come with an exclusive item?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Yes. It was awesome! As were Star Gate Sen'eki (The Battle of the Star Gate), the RobotMasters manga (what little I could understand of it), and Pretender Gaiden (Tale of the Pretenders), which were also works by Tsushima. The guy knows how to tell cool stories.
Sabrblade wrote:It could happen.
I just read them online, scanlated into English (except for the RobotMasters manga, which was never scanlated as far as I know).KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:I might have to check it out, then. I loved the Henkei! Henkei! manga stuff he did to the point that it became one of the two reasons why my collection began with the Henkei!/Gentei! line. That, and even though volume 2 was never published, I may still have to get it. And with Pretenders Gaiden, it is the #1 reason why I want to obtain a copy of Generations 2012, volume 1. It fills in their gap when it comes to them, and he does a great job.
The other two... I need to seek them.
BBTS has it still in stock.KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:I am 100% hoping so. I missed out on their last promotion, which had movie Starscream meet the cast of Keroro Gunso (a series I like, but dislike the way it is handled here). Namely because it was movie Starscream. And also, if they do, this would justify me getting two copies... Instead of just one.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I just read them online, scanlated into English (except for the RobotMasters manga, which was never scanlated as far as I know).
KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:BBTS has it still in stock.
Got both of those OVAs downloaded and subtitled in English. The first one is as badly a glorified toy commercial as the G1 cartoon was, but the second does have a much cooler (if kinda rushed) story to it. I like them, but I'll admit that they're far from perfect.KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:Oh, and Robot Masters had a pretty good OVA storyline,
Yeah, RobotMasters kinda branches off into multiple paths with its fiction, even though the outcome is the same for them all. In that case, all of them could be considered "correct", as though the timeline were to branch off then reconnect after RobotMasters or something. And hey, since that story pretty much dealt with the timeline being messed up with the Blasty Zone and all, such a phenomenon could be entirely possible.KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:but much like Henkei! Henkei!... I have to wonder if the correct one to read is the online manga or the pack-in manga. Because both told the same story, but these were told in a slightly different manner (according to TFwiki).
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Got both of those OVAs downloaded and subtitled in English. The first one is as badly a glorified toy commercial as the G1 cartoon was, but the second does have a much cooler (if kinda rushed) story to it. I like them, but I'll admit that they're far from perfect.
Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, RobotMasters kinda branches off into multiple paths with its fiction, even though the outcome is the same for them all. In that case, all of them could be considered "correct", as though the timeline were to branch off then reconnect after RobotMasters or something. And hey, since that story pretty much dealt with the timeline being messed up with the Blasty Zone and all, such a phenomenon could be entirely possible.
I honestly found the toy version of Scramble City to be hilarious.KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:Yeah. I remember when I had seen the second version of Scrambled City, it reminded me of the introduction video Mattel created for the He-Man toyline. Lets just say that Beastman had been a victim of Castle Grayskull's drawbridge in that toy-based video. But yeah... When it comes to Takara, if they are not trying to make a glorified toy-based continuity, they do give the actual main storyline something that makes us want more.
Yeah, but it's early backstory material described it being set in 2004 from the get-go, with the construction of Autobot City being underway and such.KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:Yup. This is one of the two reasons why I removed Robot Masters from my want list. From what I have read, it was not meant to be part of the main Japanese G1 continuity, but more like Takara's answer to Universe.
I guess to the higher ups, since each version tells essentially the same basic story, it doesn't matter to them which one we follow.KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:However, despite that, Takara Tomy allowed this to join the likes of the Beast Wars trilogy, Kiss Players (including Pepsi Convoy), and this series be absorbed... Despite the fact that they forgot to tell us which story to follow.
Ain't that the truth.KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:I guess this is where the "Bloody Zone" bit happens, as they tend to make things bloody confusing when it comes to story-based additions.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, but it's early backstory material described it being set in 2004 from the get-go, with the construction of Autobot City being underway and such.
Sabrblade wrote:I guess to the higher ups, since each version tells essentially the same basic story, it doesn't matter to them which one we follow.
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