May I ask why?crazyjeffy wrote:I'm not fond of animated.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
crazyjeffy wrote:I'm not fond of animated.
Sabrblade wrote:Oh, this thread is gonna open a whole bucket of worms.May I ask why?crazyjeffy wrote:I'm not fond of animated.
Fast_Magma wrote:There have been at least a dozen or so Transformers shows, which one is your least favorite and state why?
Mime is Transformers Victory because of the bad animation and not good story line.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
That's too bad. You may be put off by Masterforce, since it's a very human-centric show. But, it's still arguably the greatest of all the Japanese-made TF cartoons.Dagon wrote:I'm not a fan of anything that is overly reliant on humans, comic or show wise.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:That's too bad. You may be put off by Masterforce, since it's a very human-centric show. But, it's still arguably the greatest of all the Japanese-made TF cartoons.Dagon wrote:I'm not a fan of anything that is overly reliant on humans, comic or show wise.
Dagon wrote:Sabrblade wrote:That's too bad. You may be put off by Masterforce, since it's a very human-centric show. But, it's still arguably the greatest of all the Japanese-made TF cartoons.Dagon wrote:I'm not a fan of anything that is overly reliant on humans, comic or show wise.
More for you, I guess. I know it's been said to death and back, and criticized for being somehow "wrong," but I just figure that any story should focus on its main characters, and if the story is called "Transformers," they ought to be the focus. I am giving the new IDW series' a shot because they seem devoid of organics, and while people try to tell me that I can't honestly enjoy Stormbringer because it's apparently depressing and boring without humans, I think that's my favorite mini-series I guess I'd call it. I am apparently gifted with amazing powers by virtue of being able to identify with characters that are not human despite being told that I can't do that, thus the need for humans.
I've always heard good things about Masterforce, and I'd give it a chance and watch it, as I'm far from a monster. But chances are good that unless the human characters just really grab my interest I won't put up with it just to be able to say I've seen it.
Volrathicus Baenimus wrote:Dagon wrote:Sabrblade wrote:That's too bad. You may be put off by Masterforce, since it's a very human-centric show. But, it's still arguably the greatest of all the Japanese-made TF cartoons.Dagon wrote:I'm not a fan of anything that is overly reliant on humans, comic or show wise.
More for you, I guess. I know it's been said to death and back, and criticized for being somehow "wrong," but I just figure that any story should focus on its main characters, and if the story is called "Transformers," they ought to be the focus. I am giving the new IDW series' a shot because they seem devoid of organics, and while people try to tell me that I can't honestly enjoy Stormbringer because it's apparently depressing and boring without humans, I think that's my favorite mini-series I guess I'd call it. I am apparently gifted with amazing powers by virtue of being able to identify with characters that are not human despite being told that I can't do that, thus the need for humans.
I've always heard good things about Masterforce, and I'd give it a chance and watch it, as I'm far from a monster. But chances are good that unless the human characters just really grab my interest I won't put up with it just to be able to say I've seen it.
I respect your opinon, and agree the Transformers are the whole point.
But as a counterpoint, the whole point of transformers is that they transform to disguise themselves while on our planet. Never got the point of transformers off the planet because there didn't really seem to be any need for them to, well, transform :p I like my transformers based on earth, secretly battling, disguising themselves are earth machines. And with being on earth comes humans. So while they aren't the point of the show and rarely the best characters, they are a necessary part of the formula for me.
Dagon wrote:Volrathicus Baenimus wrote:Dagon wrote:Sabrblade wrote:That's too bad. You may be put off by Masterforce, since it's a very human-centric show. But, it's still arguably the greatest of all the Japanese-made TF cartoons.Dagon wrote:I'm not a fan of anything that is overly reliant on humans, comic or show wise.
More for you, I guess. I know it's been said to death and back, and criticized for being somehow "wrong," but I just figure that any story should focus on its main characters, and if the story is called "Transformers," they ought to be the focus. I am giving the new IDW series' a shot because they seem devoid of organics, and while people try to tell me that I can't honestly enjoy Stormbringer because it's apparently depressing and boring without humans, I think that's my favorite mini-series I guess I'd call it. I am apparently gifted with amazing powers by virtue of being able to identify with characters that are not human despite being told that I can't do that, thus the need for humans.
I've always heard good things about Masterforce, and I'd give it a chance and watch it, as I'm far from a monster. But chances are good that unless the human characters just really grab my interest I won't put up with it just to be able to say I've seen it.
I respect your opinon, and agree the Transformers are the whole point.
But as a counterpoint, the whole point of transformers is that they transform to disguise themselves while on our planet. Never got the point of transformers off the planet because there didn't really seem to be any need for them to, well, transform :p I like my transformers based on earth, secretly battling, disguising themselves are earth machines. And with being on earth comes humans. So while they aren't the point of the show and rarely the best characters, they are a necessary part of the formula for me.
I understand that, and you're right about humans coming with the territory, as it were. But, Transformers do learn to transform before they came to earth, and by that all I'm saying is that they don't do it in response to being on earth, but it's some ability they bring with them, so it serves a purpose even when there's no need to hide. I understand what you're saying as well, but for me I reckon it's more about the character of the robot characters than the up-front action.
But hey, you know, whatever makes you happy, right? Life's too short to not be happy.
Volrathicus Baenimus wrote:Dagon wrote:Volrathicus Baenimus wrote:Dagon wrote:Sabrblade wrote:That's too bad. You may be put off by Masterforce, since it's a very human-centric show. But, it's still arguably the greatest of all the Japanese-made TF cartoons.Dagon wrote:I'm not a fan of anything that is overly reliant on humans, comic or show wise.
More for you, I guess. I know it's been said to death and back, and criticized for being somehow "wrong," but I just figure that any story should focus on its main characters, and if the story is called "Transformers," they ought to be the focus. I am giving the new IDW series' a shot because they seem devoid of organics, and while people try to tell me that I can't honestly enjoy Stormbringer because it's apparently depressing and boring without humans, I think that's my favorite mini-series I guess I'd call it. I am apparently gifted with amazing powers by virtue of being able to identify with characters that are not human despite being told that I can't do that, thus the need for humans.
I've always heard good things about Masterforce, and I'd give it a chance and watch it, as I'm far from a monster. But chances are good that unless the human characters just really grab my interest I won't put up with it just to be able to say I've seen it.
I respect your opinon, and agree the Transformers are the whole point.
But as a counterpoint, the whole point of transformers is that they transform to disguise themselves while on our planet. Never got the point of transformers off the planet because there didn't really seem to be any need for them to, well, transform :p I like my transformers based on earth, secretly battling, disguising themselves are earth machines. And with being on earth comes humans. So while they aren't the point of the show and rarely the best characters, they are a necessary part of the formula for me.
I understand that, and you're right about humans coming with the territory, as it were. But, Transformers do learn to transform before they came to earth, and by that all I'm saying is that they don't do it in response to being on earth, but it's some ability they bring with them, so it serves a purpose even when there's no need to hide. I understand what you're saying as well, but for me I reckon it's more about the character of the robot characters than the up-front action.
But hey, you know, whatever makes you happy, right? Life's too short to not be happy.
Oh totally, this is nothing to actually get upset over. :p
I just don't see what purpose transforming serves beyond disguise. Beyond combiners, if they have the equipment to do it in alt-mode, they should be able to do it in robot mode.
Volrathicus Baenimus wrote:Dagon wrote:Volrathicus Baenimus wrote:Dagon wrote:Sabrblade wrote:That's too bad. You may be put off by Masterforce, since it's a very human-centric show. But, it's still arguably the greatest of all the Japanese-made TF cartoons.Dagon wrote:I'm not a fan of anything that is overly reliant on humans, comic or show wise.
More for you, I guess. I know it's been said to death and back, and criticized for being somehow "wrong," but I just figure that any story should focus on its main characters, and if the story is called "Transformers," they ought to be the focus. I am giving the new IDW series' a shot because they seem devoid of organics, and while people try to tell me that I can't honestly enjoy Stormbringer because it's apparently depressing and boring without humans, I think that's my favorite mini-series I guess I'd call it. I am apparently gifted with amazing powers by virtue of being able to identify with characters that are not human despite being told that I can't do that, thus the need for humans.
I've always heard good things about Masterforce, and I'd give it a chance and watch it, as I'm far from a monster. But chances are good that unless the human characters just really grab my interest I won't put up with it just to be able to say I've seen it.
I respect your opinon, and agree the Transformers are the whole point.
But as a counterpoint, the whole point of transformers is that they transform to disguise themselves while on our planet. Never got the point of transformers off the planet because there didn't really seem to be any need for them to, well, transform :p I like my transformers based on earth, secretly battling, disguising themselves are earth machines. And with being on earth comes humans. So while they aren't the point of the show and rarely the best characters, they are a necessary part of the formula for me.
I understand that, and you're right about humans coming with the territory, as it were. But, Transformers do learn to transform before they came to earth, and by that all I'm saying is that they don't do it in response to being on earth, but it's some ability they bring with them, so it serves a purpose even when there's no need to hide. I understand what you're saying as well, but for me I reckon it's more about the character of the robot characters than the up-front action.
But hey, you know, whatever makes you happy, right? Life's too short to not be happy.
Oh totally, this is nothing to actually get upset over. :p
I just don't see what purpose transforming serves beyond disguise. Beyond combiners, if they have the equipment to do it in alt-mode, they should be able to do it in robot mode.
crazyjeffy wrote:Volrathicus Baenimus wrote:Dagon wrote:Volrathicus Baenimus wrote:Dagon wrote:Sabrblade wrote:That's too bad. You may be put off by Masterforce, since it's a very human-centric show. But, it's still arguably the greatest of all the Japanese-made TF cartoons.Dagon wrote:I'm not a fan of anything that is overly reliant on humans, comic or show wise.
More for you, I guess. I know it's been said to death and back, and criticized for being somehow "wrong," but I just figure that any story should focus on its main characters, and if the story is called "Transformers," they ought to be the focus. I am giving the new IDW series' a shot because they seem devoid of organics, and while people try to tell me that I can't honestly enjoy Stormbringer because it's apparently depressing and boring without humans, I think that's my favorite mini-series I guess I'd call it. I am apparently gifted with amazing powers by virtue of being able to identify with characters that are not human despite being told that I can't do that, thus the need for humans.
I've always heard good things about Masterforce, and I'd give it a chance and watch it, as I'm far from a monster. But chances are good that unless the human characters just really grab my interest I won't put up with it just to be able to say I've seen it.
I respect your opinon, and agree the Transformers are the whole point.
But as a counterpoint, the whole point of transformers is that they transform to disguise themselves while on our planet. Never got the point of transformers off the planet because there didn't really seem to be any need for them to, well, transform :p I like my transformers based on earth, secretly battling, disguising themselves are earth machines. And with being on earth comes humans. So while they aren't the point of the show and rarely the best characters, they are a necessary part of the formula for me.
I understand that, and you're right about humans coming with the territory, as it were. But, Transformers do learn to transform before they came to earth, and by that all I'm saying is that they don't do it in response to being on earth, but it's some ability they bring with them, so it serves a purpose even when there's no need to hide. I understand what you're saying as well, but for me I reckon it's more about the character of the robot characters than the up-front action.
But hey, you know, whatever makes you happy, right? Life's too short to not be happy.
Oh totally, this is nothing to actually get upset over. :p
I just don't see what purpose transforming serves beyond disguise. Beyond combiners, if they have the equipment to do it in alt-mode, they should be able to do it in robot mode.
I think it's like the difference between running and walking. Humans can run to get somewhere faster, but they can get to the same destination by walking (with much less effort) so why bother running? I think that might be a good analogy to use in this case. Or not. Call me crazy.
Oh, don't worry. Despite it being very human-centric and having probably the most main human characters of any TF series, it is still very much centered primarily around its Autobots and Decepticons. I can't say how that makes sense without giving much away, but watching the series will show how that all works out.Dagon wrote:Sabrblade wrote:That's too bad. You may be put off by Masterforce, since it's a very human-centric show. But, it's still arguably the greatest of all the Japanese-made TF cartoons.Dagon wrote:I'm not a fan of anything that is overly reliant on humans, comic or show wise.
More for you, I guess. I know it's been said to death and back, and criticized for being somehow "wrong," but I just figure that any story should focus on its main characters, and if the story is called "Transformers," they ought to be the focus.
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I've always heard good things about Masterforce, and I'd give it a chance and watch it, as I'm far from a monster. But chances are good that unless the human characters just really grab my interest I won't put up with it just to be able to say I've seen it.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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