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Slashercon wrote:

xtsaur wrote:

Rated X wrote:Can we please get som Rap or Hip Hop for a change ??? Even the old Ninja Turtles movies had rap on the soundtracks. Why must the Transformers series be cursed with boy bands from middle america ???

Because Rap sucks.

HALLELUJAH! lol

I hate you Slashercon and xtsaur! Rated X, you're my best friend.

what we need is some avenged sevenfold!

Rated X wrote:Nothing is wrong with "Middle America" my friend. But I come from Miami which is a very multi-cultural city. In Miami, we mostly have Latin American, African American, and Carribean influences. Yeah we got white people too but they are actually the minorty. (No disrespect Im half white) So naturally the things that might be popular in "Middle America" just arent popular down here. Boy bands are considered gay by most people here, including women. Only tweens and kiddies enjoy them because they havent been exposed to more adult themed music yet.

You forget though that this movie is released internationally, so going for a more international style of music would be the logical thing to do.

Secondly ... boy band? ugh ... please, they actually play instruments and write their own music. Boy bands are something you associate with the likes of Backstreet Boys and new Kids on the Block, you know, groups that just sing, don't play instruments, and have trouble writing their own stuff. To associate Linkin Park with something that untalented is unfair.

To set the record straight I dont like bands. I actually applaud sythesized music from all fronts. It makes so much sense to program the beat to loop on an sampler and keyboard instead of paying some fool to stand in the backround playing drums or guitar. In traditional rock/boy bands there is always one star and a bunch of nobodys in the backround playing instruments. Hip Hop and R&B eliminated those fools. And the best thing about rap music is that the playing field is even because anyone can do it. It's all about what you say it rather than how beautiful you can sound singing it. Thats called LYRICISM.

And for those of you who think all of "middle america" hates rap google ANDY MILONAKIS. He looks like half of the TF fans I saw at Botcon and he raps and disses pop music.

Rated X wrote:To set the record straight I dont like bands.

Fair enough.

I actually applaud sythesized music from all fronts. It makes so much sense to program the beat to loop on an sampler and keyboard instead of paying some fool to stand in the backround playing drums or guitar.

So you prefer the easier less talented way out. Fair enough.

In traditional rock/boy bands there is always one star and a bunch of nobodys in the backround playing instruments.

This is awesome. In two threads in two days i've now been branded a moron and a nobody.

And the best thing about rap music is that the playing field is even because anyone can do it. It's all about what you say it rather than how beautiful you can sound singing it. Thats called LYRICISM.

ahhh now that I can't really agree on. I'm by far no fan of rap, but to say that anyone can do it? nuh uh, no way. I've heard some terrible rapping from people who just should have never bothered.

And really, I have to laugh every time the subject of the soundtrack comes up. I remember when word got out that there was going to be a Sam/Mikaela love song (The Wallflowers?) and people went ballistic, but in the movie you were lucky to hear 5 seconds of it.

LP's contribution to RotF was heard less than Green Day's "21 Guns" while pretty much every other song off both soundtracks was rarely, or never heard.

So frankly, the non-instrumental score is hardly worth getting all worked up over because you hardly hear it anyway. Let's see what the instrumental can do (you know, those nobody's up the back who spent years studying and training to create music themselves and not rely on a pre-programmed synthesizer)

Dear god, they suck, gayest part of the movie franchise.

Not too impressed with 'Burning in the Skies'. The title sort-of fits, but the track doesn't...

Still say they should use 'Invaders Must Die' by The Prodigy in the film playing over a decisive fight scene!

Swiftknife24 wrote:Not too impressed with 'Burning in the Skies'. The title sort-of fits, but the track doesn't...

Still say they should use 'Invaders Must Die' by The Prodigy in the film, playing over a fight decisive fight scene!

YES! Prodigy! Chemical Brothers! Source Direct, Audio, Panacea, Dom & roland, for gods sake enough with the gay emo nu metal bull*. Lets get some pumping big beat/DNB goin on. More MECH, less BIO.

Burn wrote:

Rated X wrote:To set the record straight I dont like bands.

Fair enough.

I actually applaud sythesized music from all fronts. It makes so much sense to program the beat to loop on an sampler and keyboard instead of paying some fool to stand in the backround playing drums or guitar.

So you prefer the easier less talented way out. Fair enough.

In traditional rock/boy bands there is always one star and a bunch of nobodys in the backround playing instruments.

This is awesome. In two threads in two days i've now been branded a moron and a nobody.

And the best thing about rap music is that the playing field is even because anyone can do it. It's all about what you say it rather than how beautiful you can sound singing it. Thats called LYRICISM.

ahhh now that I can't really agree on. I'm by far no fan of rap, but to say that anyone can do it? nuh uh, no way. I've heard some terrible rapping from people who just should have never bothered.

And really, I have to laugh every time the subject of the soundtrack comes up. I remember when word got out that there was going to be a Sam/Mikaela love song (The Wallflowers?) and people went ballistic, but in the movie you were lucky to hear 5 seconds of it.

LP's contribution to RotF was heard less than Green Day's "21 Guns" while pretty much every other song off both soundtracks was rarely, or never heard.

So frankly, the non-instrumental score is hardly worth getting all worked up over because you hardly hear it anyway. Let's see what the instrumental can do (you know, those nobody's up the back who spent years studying and training to create music themselves and not rely on a pre-programmed synthesizer)

Sorry didnt know you played in a band no offense. But honestly sometimes dont you wish you could give the lead singer a big sze 10 boot off the stage and have your time to be in the spotlight ???

I happen to have a small home recording studio. My music hobby kind of took a backseat to Transformer collecting. But I do enjoy creating instrumentals on my Korg Triton and looping them on the MPC. And with the ease of computer recording studios, ANYONE can hit a button and record vocals to a beat on different tracks and master the volumes. I use Acid Pro 6, but I have online friends that mess with Pro Tools, Cubase, and make beats with Reason and a Midi Controller. Anyone can do this, they even teach it in high school music classes. As far as rapping, ANYONE can do it. Now if they go off beat or have no lyrical content then of course they will sound like crap. But at least they dont have to have one in a million talent to live their dream of hearing their own voice on a studio quality track. Rap music is truly "for the people". You dont have to be a star or want to be a star to get on the mic and express yourself about a wide range of topics. Although we never recorded it, Me and another rapper once had plans to do a battle rap where I was Optimus and He was Megatron. We would exchange disses back and forth to a G1 storyline. Now that would be cool no matter what kind of music you like.

MINDVVIPE wrote:

Swiftknife24 wrote:Not too impressed with 'Burning in the Skies'. The title sort-of fits, but the track doesn't...

Still say they should use 'Invaders Must Die' by The Prodigy in the film, playing over a fight decisive fight scene!

YES! Prodigy! Chemical Brothers! Source Direct, Audio, Panacea, Dom & roland, for gods sake enough with the gay emo nu metal bull*. Lets get some pumping big beat/DNB goin on. More MECH, less BIO.

Was that sarcasm? If it was, whoa! Take it easy! I only said because I like the song! You can't class my taste in music because it's all over the place (and I'm not at all familiar with any of the other groups you mentioned there). It's called a light-hearted comment which I said only because I prefer 'New Divide' to 'Burning in the Skies', (I really shouldn't have to explain myself but) if anything I'm more of a classic rock person. So do try thinking before you post sarcastic replies!

And what the heck are DNB, Mech and Bio where they're at home???

Swiftknife24 wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:

Swiftknife24 wrote:Not too impressed with 'Burning in the Skies'. The title sort-of fits, but the track doesn't...

Still say they should use 'Invaders Must Die' by The Prodigy in the film, playing over a fight decisive fight scene!

YES! Prodigy! Chemical Brothers! Source Direct, Audio, Panacea, Dom & roland, for gods sake enough with the gay emo nu metal bull*. Lets get some pumping big beat/DNB goin on. More MECH, less BIO.

Was that sarcasm? If it was, whoa! Take it easy! I only said because I like the song! You can't class my taste in music because it's all over the place (and I'm not at all familiar with any of the other groups you mentioned there). It's called a light-hearted comment which I said only because I prefer 'New Divide' to 'Burning in the Skies', (I really shouldn't have to explain myself but) if anything I'm more of a classic rock person. So do try thinking before you post sarcastic replies!

And what the heck are DNB, Mech and Bio where they're at home???

Oy vey, bro I wasn't being sarcastic at all, hahahah. I'm all for prodigy.

I meant more mechnical and less biological, sorry that was a bit vague..got caught up in the excitement. I meant it in regards to the movies just having too much fleshling (coz it's a band that is featured [although not that much thank god, coz the orchestra stuff is much better])and not enough mecha.

DNB is Drum and Bass, my sig link features the genre. And ya man, Rock is killer, Thin Lizzy, Monster Magnet... Ya, if its not going to be robotic music, atleast pick them good rock bands, right? haha

YAY

MINDVVIPE wrote:

Swiftknife24 wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:

Swiftknife24 wrote:Not too impressed with 'Burning in the Skies'. The title sort-of fits, but the track doesn't...

Still say they should use 'Invaders Must Die' by The Prodigy in the film, playing over a fight decisive fight scene!

YES! Prodigy! Chemical Brothers! Source Direct, Audio, Panacea, Dom & roland, for gods sake enough with the gay emo nu metal bull*. Lets get some pumping big beat/DNB goin on. More MECH, less BIO.

Was that sarcasm? If it was, whoa! Take it easy! I only said because I like the song! You can't class my taste in music because it's all over the place (and I'm not at all familiar with any of the other groups you mentioned there). It's called a light-hearted comment which I said only because I prefer 'New Divide' to 'Burning in the Skies', (I really shouldn't have to explain myself but) if anything I'm more of a classic rock person. So do try thinking before you post sarcastic replies!

And what the heck are DNB, Mech and Bio where they're at home???

Oy vey, bro I wasn't being sarcastic at all, hahahah. I'm all for prodigy.

I meant more mechnical and less biological, sorry that was a bit vague..got caught up in the excitement. I meant it in regards to the movies just having too much fleshling (coz it's a band that is featured [although not that much thank god, coz the orchestra stuff is much better])and not enough mecha.

DNB is Drum and Bass, my sig link features the genre. And ya man, Rock is killer, Thin Lizzy, Monster Magnet... Ya, if its not going to be robotic music, atleast pick them good rock bands, right? haha

Ah that's okay then; confusion settled! To me it 'looked' sarcastic...Though to be fair it is tricky to 'read' sarcasm...

And I agree with the Score; more Jablonsky, STAT!

And I see what you mean, now! To me, metal/rock is best for anything symbolic of machinery or robotics (best example; 'Iron Man' - Black Sabbath), especially in kick-ass films!

Rated X wrote:Sorry didnt know you played in a band no offense. But honestly sometimes dont you wish you could give the lead singer a big sze 10 boot off the stage and have your time to be in the spotlight ???

No offense taken. My band is actually a concert band, we're talking brass and woodwind here. When you're put on the Euphonium and not allowed to play Trumpet then yes, there are times you want the spotlight because the bass part can be so bloody boring.

Swiftknife24 wrote:I agree with the Score; more Jablonsky, STAT!

And I see what you mean, now! To me, metal/rock is best for anything symbolic of machinery or robotics (best example; 'Iron Man' - Black Sabbath), especially in kick-ass films!

Steve Jablonsky is terrific. Gives the movies some emotion and feeling.

What they really need to keep in the vein of the oldschool G1 metal while still contemporizing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emp_svWTUMk

And I see what you mean, now! To me, metal/rock is best for anything symbolic of machinery or robotics (best example; 'Iron Man' - Black Sabbath), especially in kick-ass films![/quote]


Gotta totally disagree. What associates with robotics better then the electro breakdance songs of the early 80's ??? Complete with vocoder to create robot voices. (similar to todays autotune) Check out this track from 1984 titled "Clear" from none other than "Cybortron". A straight up homage to transformers when they were brand new.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I280cxs2jvA&feature=fvsr

Or how about this one from 1986 titled "Rock the Planet" by "The Megatrons". If I was at an energon bar on Cybertron similar to a Star Wars cantina, I imagine tracks like this would be spinning.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgpfIpsHsyg

Rated X wrote:
Gotta totally disagree. What associates with robotics better then the electro breakdance songs of the early 80's ??? Complete with vocoder to create robot voices. (similar to todays autotune) Check out this track from 1984 titled "Clear" from none other than "Cybortron". A straight up homage to transformers when they were brand new.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I280cxs2jvA&feature=fvsr

Or how about this one from 1986 titled "Rock the Planet" by "The Megatrons". If I was at an energon bar on Cybertron similar to a Star Wars cantina, I imagine tracks like this would be spinning.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgpfIpsHsyg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQfdRfmn7jI

check and mate
That 80's stuff is rad though, party beats.

MINDVVIPE wrote:

Rated X wrote:And I see what you mean, now! To me, metal/rock is best for anything symbolic of machinery or robotics (best example; 'Iron Man' - Black Sabbath), especially in kick-ass films!

Gotta totally disagree. What associates with robotics better then the electro breakdance songs of the early 80's ??? Complete with vocoder to create robot voices. (similar to todays autotune) Check out this track from 1984 titled "Clear" from none other than "Cybortron". A straight up homage to transformers when they were brand new.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I280cxs2jvA&feature=fvsr

Or how about this one from 1986 titled "Rock the Planet" by "The Megatrons". If I was at an energon bar on Cybertron similar to a Star Wars cantina, I imagine tracks like this would be spinning.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgpfIpsHsyg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQfdRfmn7jI

check and mate
That 80's stuff is rad though, party beats.[/quote]


Haha...Chess references...

Hey, your point of view's fine; just thought I'd share mine! (Ooh, I should write that down...)

MINDVVIPE wrote:

Rated X wrote:And I see what you mean, now! To me, metal/rock is best for anything symbolic of machinery or robotics (best example; 'Iron Man' - Black Sabbath), especially in kick-ass films!

Gotta totally disagree. What associates with robotics better then the electro breakdance songs of the early 80's ??? Complete with vocoder to create robot voices. (similar to todays autotune) Check out this track from 1984 titled "Clear" from none other than "Cybortron". A straight up homage to transformers when they were brand new.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I280cxs2jvA&feature=fvsr

Or how about this one from 1986 titled "Rock the Planet" by "The Megatrons". If I was at an energon bar on Cybertron similar to a Star Wars cantina, I imagine tracks like this would be spinning.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgpfIpsHsyg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQfdRfmn7jI

check and mate
That 80's stuff is rad though, party beats.[/quote]

Im lovin that hard rave/drum n bass track !!! I was freestyling lyrics to it and was feeling it mane !!!

Rated X wrote:Im lovin that hard rave/drum n bass track !!! I was freestyling lyrics to it and was feeling it mane !!!

Glad you dig man, thats part of my fav genre of music, period. Def great for freestyling over. Feel free to check out my youtube channel, its got nothing but gold in regards to DNB. *linked through my sig*

those youtube videos were f-ing terrible...well at least personally i just couldnt get into it

Now these could be epic...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovucA4lKRmM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoHn2vmxKks

ShardFenix wrote:those youtube videos were f-ing terrible...well at least personally i just couldnt get into it

Now these could be epic...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovucA4lKRmM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoHn2vmxKks

Ugh, symphonic metal... the bane of metal since nu metal.
Second ones alright. Theres much better dnb than that remix.
You want some serious dnb:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjzLKjcb64U

But since we're talkin about the tf movie here, this might be more appropriate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gofzmyf3vM

It makes total sense for LInkin Park to come back again for the final part of the Michael Bay Transformers Trilogy.
Burning in the Skies is a good track although not as upbeat as I would have expected for a TF movie.

Burn wrote:

Rated X wrote:Sorry didnt know you played in a band no offense. But honestly sometimes dont you wish you could give the lead singer a big sze 10 boot off the stage and have your time to be in the spotlight ???

No offense taken. My band is actually a concert band, we're talking brass and woodwind here. When you're put on the Euphonium and not allowed to play Trumpet then yes, there are times you want the spotlight because the bass part can be so bloody boring.

What's your band called? And do you have a CD?

Rated X wrote:Can we please get som Rap or Hip Hop for a change ??? Even the old Ninja Turtles movies had rap on the soundtracks. Why must the Transformers series be cursed with boy bands from middle america ???

Rap? more like these big metal warriors fighting in a stellar battle deserves to have a heavy metal
soundtrack like the animated movie had but more modern metal