The Energon Pub

by **wldchld0783_338** » Tue May 15, 2007 6:52 pm

hey guys, is there something wrong with the livedoor site, I cant get onto it

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by **Primus_feather** » Tue May 15, 2007 7:10 pm

Do you even READ previous posts??

by **wldchld0783_338** » Sat May 19, 2007 2:29 pm

Primus_Feather wrote:Do you even READ previous posts??

I did read the last posts, and didnt see anything that said livedoor was going off line!!! if you not gonna be helpfull then be quiet. Now that thats outta my system, does anyone know what happened to the freaggin site?? It was working just a few das ago, and now i cant get onto it.

by **Ramrider** » Sat May 19, 2007 10:28 pm

PF posted the link. It's http://transformers.hp.infoseek.co.jp/. That takes you to the homepage; the first four links take you to different boards. The first is, I think general pics of TF toys, second is the customs board, third is the art board, and I think the fourth is general talk.

by **wldchld0783_338** » Mon May 21, 2007 4:59 pm

Ramrider wrote:PF posted the link. It's http://transformers.hp.infoseek.co.jp/. That takes you to the homepage; the first four links take you to different boards. The first is, I think general pics of TF toys, second is the customs board, third is the art board, and I think the fourth is general talk.

Thank you, THAT helped.

by **Tramp** » Mon May 21, 2007 5:17 pm

That custom Unicron there is pretty sweet. I'm curious to know how it transforms compared to the original Armada version because they had to maodify the transformation some how to account for the back hemishere.

by **TM dak** » Mon May 21, 2007 5:35 pm

I have a feeling that unicron is the same one seen a while back with a super detailed Primus.

by **Ramrider** » Tue May 22, 2007 6:19 am

Tramp wrote:That custom Unicron there is pretty sweet. I'm curious to know how it transforms compared to the original Armada version because they had to maodify the transformation some how to account for the back hemishere.

It doesn't transform. If I understand it correctly, he used the spare dome pieces from one of his other Unicron customs and cut them to shape to fill the gaps.
Here's the translation (such as it is).

It is the uni- clone planetary mode which is exhibited to the certain event. Four using the dome part of the my transmission uni- clone, being something which it makes the excessiveness doing globose, it is non deformation, but training the light/write to substituting, the mouth radiates, being linked by the fact that in addition トゲ the rear is moved back and forth, the fang opens and closes left and right simultaneously.

by **Tramp** » Tue May 22, 2007 3:45 pm

That's a bummer. It would have been so much better if he could have retained the transformation.

by **Primus_feather** » Wed May 23, 2007 2:11 am

I like the Bigger 'Crons but I MUST See more of that RID Uni!!! NOW!!

by **DTM** » Wed May 23, 2007 3:24 pm

I like the little one the best takes up little room considering my room is already full or figures

by **jimsloth** » Sun May 27, 2007 6:19 pm

New trailbreaker from energon Ironhide up as well as Scourge from.. I forget that Gundam's name. Both look awsome. I can't believe I didn't think of that Trailbreaker before. I had thought to do that scourge when I first saw pics of that Gundam, but never got my hands on one.

by **Ramrider** » Sun May 27, 2007 7:32 pm

That Trailbreaker is clever... I'm kicking myself for not thinking of it, too...

The Scourge Gundam actually reminds me more of the Go-Bot, Klaws...
http://www.tfu.info/Gobots/Renegades/Klaws/klaws.htm

by **jimsloth** » Sun May 27, 2007 8:07 pm

Ramrider wrote:That Trailbreaker is clever... I'm kicking myself for not thinking of it, too...

The Scourge Gundam actually reminds me more of the Go-Bot, Klaws...
http://www.tfu.info/Gobots/Renegades/Klaws/klaws.htm

Too True... but I really don't care about Gobots to make homages of them.

by **Tramp** » Mon May 28, 2007 12:34 am

I don't think that "scourge" Gundam is supposed to be Scourge. Based upon the color scheme, it looks more like Devcon to me.

by **jimsloth** » Mon May 28, 2007 10:57 am

Tramp wrote:I don't think that "scourge" Gundam is supposed to be Scourge. Based upon the color scheme, it looks more like Devcon to me.

I just looked at screencaps of both Scourge and Devcon, and it could equally be either. Both have the red detailing in the circles on his shoulders and hips, Dark and Light blues with white, a weird thing on on their forehead. Scourge has red eyes and Devcon has blue, this bash has red. The bash also has red detailing on the sides of the vehical mode, as does the wings on Devcon. Without a translation program for the title I don't see how you can tell for sure.

by **Tramp** » Mon May 28, 2007 11:41 pm

Actually, Scourge has no red detailings, unless you count the inside of laser emitter on his head and inside the intakes on either side in vehicle mode. Everything else is various hues of blue and some silver. There is no red anywhere else on his body

by **Tramp** » Tue May 29, 2007 12:20 pm

Regardless, That model has too much red all over its body to be Scourge. It has red on the chest, rewd on the arms, red on the cod-piece and hip guards, red pon its legs; it has a lot of red on it. Too much red to be Scourge. Not counting the optics, Scourge only has the red in the intakes and the laser emitter, that is it.
He has none on his chest, arms, hips, or legs. Nor does he have any on his vehicle mode. He is all blue.
Granted, Devcon doesn't have much red in his robot mode, but he does have more than Scourge, and has a significant amount of red in vehicle mode.

by **jimsloth** » Tue May 29, 2007 5:17 pm

Red and Red and Red and Red.
Shoulders, hips, tip of the crest, eyes.

PLUS scourge has wings in bot mode that fold around him to make his alt mode. Devcon does NOT have wings in bot mode and actually transforms where you can see his body pieces in alt mode.

by **tentagil** » Tue May 29, 2007 5:22 pm

Regardless of if its Scourge or Devcon this is custom Tramp, the creator might prefer lots of red. Jsut because you prefer cartoon accuracy color schemes doesn't mean everyone does. Unfortunately even with a translation it doesn't look like he actually names who it is in there, though it does say something about it being a Gundam to Transformer.

by **Tramp** » Wed May 30, 2007 2:15 am

jimsloth wrote:

Red and Red and Red and Red.
Shoulders, hips, tip of the crest, eyes.

PLUS scourge has wings in bot mode that fold around him to make his alt mode. Devcon does NOT have wings in bot mode and actually transforms where you can see his body pieces in alt mode.

Take a look at these shots. How much red do you see in the vehicle mode?

http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize.php?id=219&size=1&image=20

Just inside the emitter and intakes.

How much red do you see in the robot mode?

http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize.php?id=219&size=1&image=40

Just in the inside of the emitter on the top of his head, (the crest), and his optics. no where else. and certainly none on his chest, none on his legs.
And, if you look at his comic book incarnation, such as in TF: More than Meets the Eye #5, the only red he has in robot mode is his optics and inside his laser emitter in his crest. That is it.
These shots of Devcon show much more red throughout including a significant amount on the torso and in vehicle mode.

Granted, the shape is different, but how close in shape are you going to get using a Gundam as a base model? On top of that, even if the cartoon character didn't have his wings in robot mode, given his vehicle mode, a toy versionwould have to have wings in robot mode if it does in vehicle mode. Also remember, the shape is different than either bot in both modes, so all we have to go on is color (i.e. the amount of red used throughout), and Devcon has significantly more red in both modes than Scourge.

Now, for all we know, we could both be wrong and it could be a completely original character. Who knows? I can't read Japanese. All I know is that between Scourge and Devcon, that model looks a lot more like Devcon to me than it does Scourge. It doesn't look like Scourge at all to me.

And tentagil, ,I actually prefer G1 toy accuracy over G1 toon accuracy, except in cases where there is no toy version of a given character.

by **gawd6sic6** » Wed May 30, 2007 2:55 am

omg tramp. i dont know HOW many times you have started arguements like this.. ya know what.. its artistic expression.. people can add what ever they want to their custom. so it DOESNT have to be exact. and everyone else , just let it go......

by **Tramp** » Wed May 30, 2007 3:02 am

Gawd6sic6, did you actually read what I said? I said it doesn't look like Scourge to me. I also said that we could both be wrong, and that it could be a completely different character. Neither of us knows for sure. Jim sees one character, I see another. All we are doing is comparing notes, it isn't a big argument.