Didn't "Five Faces of Darkness" reference them learning to transform?Wingz wrote:When Optimus was explaining about the Oracle's prophesy, he states: "The first robots who came to Cybertron had to learn to transform." Not only does this completely dismiss Cybertron as a "home planet" or "Primus", no reason was ever given as to why they would feel the need to learn to transform.
shajaki wrote:Didn't "Five Faces of Darkness" reference them learning to transform?Wingz wrote:When Optimus was explaining about the Oracle's prophesy, he states: "The first robots who came to Cybertron had to learn to transform." Not only does this completely dismiss Cybertron as a "home planet" or "Primus", no reason was ever given as to why they would feel the need to learn to transform.
Wingz wrote:shajaki wrote:Didn't "Five Faces of Darkness" reference them learning to transform?Wingz wrote:When Optimus was explaining about the Oracle's prophesy, he states: "The first robots who came to Cybertron had to learn to transform." Not only does this completely dismiss Cybertron as a "home planet" or "Primus", no reason was ever given as to why they would feel the need to learn to transform.
It's been a while since I've seen "Five Faces of Darkness" May have to revisit it at some point soon, then. Thank you for the heads up!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Here is a question. If they hadn't have back-peddled out of the finale to The Agenda and Beast Machines had instead become "Season 3" (& 4), the alternate future caused by Megatron killing Optimus Prime in the past, would it have been better received?
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:What if the Beast Machines finale was unchanged though? That the restoration of the timeline only came about through the death/reformation of the last Optimus and Megatron?
JazZeke wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:What if the Beast Machines finale was unchanged though? That the restoration of the timeline only came about through the death/reformation of the last Optimus and Megatron?
Then that probably would have pissed off fans even more. Alternate-timeline stories almost always need to resolve with having the "true" timeline restored. If the first two amazing seasons of Beast Wars had ended there, with Beast Machines saying "this is the joyless status quo now, everything that you enjoyed about the first two seasons no longer matters and no longer exists," then it would have just compounded peoples' issues with the series. It would have been a ballsy move for a kids' show, sure, but still wrong.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:JazZeke wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:What if the Beast Machines finale was unchanged though? That the restoration of the timeline only came about through the death/reformation of the last Optimus and Megatron?
Then that probably would have pissed off fans even more. Alternate-timeline stories almost always need to resolve with having the "true" timeline restored. If the first two amazing seasons of Beast Wars had ended there, with Beast Machines saying "this is the joyless status quo now, everything that you enjoyed about the first two seasons no longer matters and no longer exists," then it would have just compounded peoples' issues with the series. It would have been a ballsy move for a kids' show, sure, but still wrong.
The most notable 'ballsy' move Hasbro/Takara made was the '86 Movie and they were right to do so, even if the execution could have been better.
What I mean is, instead of the naff Techno-organic "running" scene at the end. If when Primal and Megs hit the core, the blast wave restored everyone to the visual design of Season Two Beast Wars. Cybertron itself, brought back to the look briefly shown in 'The Web' and other flashbacks.
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