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by **turbomagnus** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:02 am

I didn't mutter it, I said it loud and clear and I'll say it again.

Jetfire.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:04 am

turbomagnus wrote:Gee, guess the fact that the insignia Skyfire/Jetfire chose to wear in the end means something, huh?

Not when it comes to HMW and certain alts being available to both factions. :twisted:

News Credits: 1 · by **Venomous Prime** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:06 am

turbomagnus wrote:/:) I didn't mutter it, I said it loud and clear and I'll say it again.

***fire.

So many mistakes Turbo. Off the ball tonight

by **turbomagnus** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:07 am

You, sir, have no level threes or lower. Go back to your 'Gentlemen's Club' and drool over Erica Campball.

Edit: Off the ball, no. Off my rocker, yes. Let's see, it's War Within JETfire, Classics JETfire, hm.... Do you see where I'm going with this, oh-poisonous-first-one? :-P

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:13 am

turbomagnus wrote:You, sir, have no level threes or lower. Go back to your 'Gentlemen's Club' and drool over Erica Campball.

*shrugs shoulders*

Fine. I don't care whether you're joking or not. I've had enough of crap like this. So have your precious little thread. As far as i'm concerned all three level threads are pointless.

News Credits: 1 · by **Venomous Prime** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:20 am

Burn shouldn't have to go anywhere.

And Skyfire was the character in the show, not Jetfire. Skyfire never got his own toy

by **turbomagnus** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:22 am

Exactly, Skyfire appeared in the series in one major and several minor roles, Jetfire appeared in the comics, had the toys, and had the Armada, Energon and Cybertron reincarnations. Jetfire beats Skyfire hands down.

News Credits: 1 · by **Venomous Prime** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:53 am

But Skyfire is still better then Jetfire

The comics don't mean anything when you grew up on the cartoon.

Armada, Energon, and Cybertron are not related to G1.

Skyfire is G1 and RiD

by **Mime** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:05 am

What's the difference between the two? Isn't Jetfire some kind of Skyfire imitation?

News Credits: 1 · by **Venomous Prime** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:14 am

You are right

Skyfire is the O.G.
Jetfire is the wannabe

Skyfire was in the G1 Cartoon, and didn't get a toy with that name until the RiD line(could have been Machine Wars now that I think about it). But it wasn't an homage or even in his likeness.

Jetfire was a Macross figure, saddled into the Transformers. Jetfire was also the character's name in the comics. But in my eyes they are not the same character, they have different origins. Skyfire was a scientist with Starscream before the war in the cartoon, and in the comics Jetfire was built by Shockwave

We should probably get back on topic so sumo's thread doesn't get locked though. I am by no means an expert on Transformers, so if I didn't answer your question you can post a thread in the TFGD.

by **Mime** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:19 am

It was just one of those things that had been bugging me for a long time. Good answer too.

by **turbomagnus** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:28 am

*Shrugs*

I was just doing it to give you a hard time, so I'm fine with dropping it.

News Credits: 1 · by **Venomous Prime** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:36 am

I wasn't mad or angry or anything. I just don't want Sumo's thread locked over us messing around over names :lol:

by **turbomagnus** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:46 am

Though you gotta admit, Skyfire vs. Jetfire would make an interesting grudge match on a TF version of CDM.... :-?

News Credits: 1 · by **Venomous Prime** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:57 am

That would kick lots of ass. To bad MTV canceled CDM. It was one of my favorite shows.

by **turbomagnus** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:14 am

VP, I have yet to meet a person who DIDN'T like CDM...

News Credits: 1 · by **Venomous Prime** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:28 am

The show was genius.

Now I am going to post something relevant lol

http://seibertron.com/heavymetalwar/character.php?character_id=46207

The lil Con that could. She's struggling.

For some reason she has always been the worst member of my team. Which is no good because she is one of my favorites. I thought about being cheap and switching her with Dyno Maximus so he could just ram his way back up the ranks, but I don't want to do that.

Her current setup is the standard setup I guess. But does anyone have any pointers to help her?

Actually my bottom 5 are really slacking >.<

I just looked at my team page again more closely.

http://seibertron.com/heavymetalwar/team_view.php?id=12889

Any Pointers?

by **turbomagnus** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:38 am

...Hm... What does she have in the way of Tactics? It doesn't show them when I look and I want to be sure to judge accurately.

by **Pdiddy** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:19 am

At about what xp would be good to make the jump to lvl two and not get slaughterd ?

by **Tifereth** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:55 am

Venomous Prime wrote:...http://seibertron.com/heavymetalwar/character.php?character_id=46207

The lil Con that could. She's struggling. ...

5speed
6courage
3fp
5avoid
2strafe

dol or electric cannon

my 2 cents ^^

by **Phaze** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:42 am

Pdiddy wrote:At about what xp would be good to make the jump to lvl two and not get slaughterd ?

probably around 120,000xp mark would be a good marker for lvl 2

by **Rat Convoy** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:06 pm

Venomous Prime wrote:http://seibertron.com/heavymetalwar/character.php?character_id=46207

The lil Con that could. She's struggling.

4 STR isn't high enough to be brawling at level 2. An effective brawler should have at least 6 STR. You're just not doing enough damage to make an efficient use of your attacks at 4 STR. If you don't want to invest that heavily into Strength, I suggest buying 2 FP and using a Dol if you have one, or a 2BPSS if you don't.

by **Netminder** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:35 pm

This is Treble Charger. I would like to keep him as a cassette player and a strafer, how should I develop him?

by **Tifereth** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:27 pm

Netminder wrote:This is Treble Charger. I would like to keep him as a cassette player and a strafer, how should I develop him?

2speed
4courage
1fp
3strafe

by **Rat Convoy** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:39 pm

Netminder wrote:This is Treble Charger. I would like to keep him as a cassette player and a strafer, how should I develop him?

Strafe is very weak at lower than about 5 points, especially if you're carrying a Dol. Your Dol attacks will always do more damage than your Strafe attacks. Generally, I don't recommend bothering with STF until the higher end of Level 2. A good build at your XP is 4 SPD, 1 CRG, 2 FP, with your next upgrade being a point of STR.

If you're insistent on the STF, try 4 SPD, 2 FP and 4 STF, and then make your next few upgrades being a 5th point of STF then concentrating on CRG. Just keep in mind that the STF will actually be holding you back.

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