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Postby Goribus » Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:22 pm

Tifereth wrote:
Psychout wrote:...but if u increase courage u can attack more often and if u add speed u can avoid more, so i think it balance the reduce strengh
Not when you get rammed in the face it dont...
All the speed and courage in the world aint goin to stop you getting stunned.


if u r slower than ur attacker, u will get rammed ;), so try to be faster than him, endurance helps to reduce ram effects therefore upgrades in endurance helps too[/quote]

Ram and Strafe bypass speed and avoid. Their considered penetrating damage (they cut thru defenses and deliver straight up damage). It's an element in alot of RPGs.
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Postby sumowrestler » Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:38 pm

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I'm betting at this low of a level there are probably one or two configs that work equally well. I'm not the experimenting type with my team but I can see things being more flexible here. Once you hit the higher levels, there might be a more dominant and superior set up.
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Postby Tifereth » Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:53 pm

sumowrestler wrote:I'm betting at this low of a level there are probably one or two configs that work equally well. I'm not the experimenting type with my team but I can see things being more flexible here. Once you hit the higher levels, there might be a more dominant and superior set up.


there is no a perfect setup,as Gori said before for each config there is a contra config^^
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Postby Morticon » Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:35 pm

Here is my Human Defense Team. I'm still very much new... no one even has higher than a 0 in anything, yet. Is it supposed to start this slow, or am I just supremely unlucky?
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Postby Tifereth » Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:51 pm

Morticon wrote:Here is my Human Defense Team. I'm still very much new... no one even has higher than a 0 in anything, yet. Is it supposed to start this slow, or am I just supremely unlucky?


u start from the scratch :), then everything improves ;)
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Postby Goribus » Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:54 pm

The first 1000 xp you earn will be the hardest. To help the hand mounted laser is the worst weapon in the game it does less damage then your melee attacks. Sell it. The sword is the second worst default weapon. Sell it and buy Disruptor lasers. These the the best of the default weapons for sale. Only the X-Ray laser is better and it's sold out so it's not an option. Go unarmed with anyone you can't afford this for. Also you're going to want to get 12 members ASAP to help out with bringing in Energon.
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Postby Morticon » Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:14 pm

Goribus wrote:The first 1000 xp you earn will be the hardest. To help the hand mounted laser is the worst weapon in the game it does less damage then your melee attacks. Sell it. The sword is the second worst default weapon. Sell it and buy Disruptor lasers. These the the best of the default weapons for sale. Only the X-Ray laser is better and it's sold out so it's not an option. Go unarmed with anyone you can't afford this for. Also you're going to want to get 12 members ASAP to help out with bringing in Energon.


Thanks. I'd picked up on the more Transformers = more energon thing already... so I've been making new ones as soon as I get the 500.

I really wanted Sabretron to have a sword because I see him as the Sword version of Megatron... a sword who transforms into a robot with a giant sword. Are there better swords later?
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Postby Psychout » Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:00 pm

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Question for my fellow 2's

Primal Fear.
This unresettabe lug is the bane of my team, I cant do crap all with him.

Ive got 36k xp saved up and im considering another Strength that i can afford now, but Im thinking i should probably wait until i have enough for a courage or speed.

Any suggestions?
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Postby Tifereth » Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:56 pm

Psychout wrote:Question for my fellow 2's

Primal Fear.
This unresettabe lug is the bane of my team, I cant do crap all with him.

Ive got 36k xp saved up and im considering another Strength that i can afford now, but Im thinking i should probably wait until i have enough for a courage or speed.

Any suggestions?


more courage
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Postby Psychout » Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:15 am

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figured as much, its going to be a long wait for 140+K xp to accumilate.

Cheers Tif.
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Postby Phaze » Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:21 am

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Psychout wrote:figured as much, its going to be a long wait for 140+K xp to accumilate.

Cheers Tif.

you do love your unresetable alts don't ya psyke :P
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Postby Archanubis » Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:35 am

Motto: "Don't take life too seriously or you'll never get out of it alive."
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Tifereth wrote:
Psychout wrote:Question for my fellow 2's

Primal Fear.
This unresettabe lug is the bane of my team, I cant do crap all with him.

Ive got 36k xp saved up and im considering another Strength that i can afford now, but Im thinking i should probably wait until i have enough for a courage or speed.

Any suggestions?


more courage


I agree with Tif on this.

Phaze wrote:you do love your unresetable alts don't ya psyke


Yes he does, and so do I; which is why Northclaw's going to take 'til March to upgrade his STR.
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Postby Phaze » Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:41 am

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Weapon: Nuclear Charged Fusion Cannon
Thunderscream wrote:
Tifereth wrote:
Psychout wrote:Question for my fellow 2's

Primal Fear.
This unresettabe lug is the bane of my team, I cant do crap all with him.

Ive got 36k xp saved up and im considering another Strength that i can afford now, but Im thinking i should probably wait until i have enough for a courage or speed.

Any suggestions?


more courage


I agree with Tif on this.

Phaze wrote:you do love your unresetable alts don't ya psyke


Yes he does, and so do I; which is why Northclaw's going to take 'til March to upgrade his STR.
most of mine are unresetable now seeings as they were in the xmas tourney haul and i'm not sure whats choosable and whats not :D
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Postby Psychout » Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:48 am

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Phaze wrote:
Psychout wrote:figured as much, its going to be a long wait for 140+K xp to accumilate.

Cheers Tif.

you do love your unresetable alts don't ya psyke :P


8 of my team are unresettable currently, only Psychout, Mal Practice and Nemesis Wheelie are standard alts and 'The Experiment' is given whatever I feel like torturing it with that week, currently a cowardly-jet-avoider.

Ill never reset my TIE fighter or the 2 autobot alts ive got, (no matter how much Primal Fear sucks,) the rest I could part with if i had to, but the Zombie Cheerleader looks way too good as the pink rabit to lose, especially when she is so good at killing Blitzwing.

Thundy, at current xp gain levels, PF is stuck like that until at about mid April :(
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Postby Phaze » Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:59 am

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Psychout wrote:
Phaze wrote:
Psychout wrote:figured as much, its going to be a long wait for 140+K xp to accumilate.

Cheers Tif.

you do love your unresetable alts don't ya psyke :P


8 of my team are unresettable currently, only Psychout, Mal Practice and Nemesis Wheelie are standard alts and 'The Experiment' is given whatever I feel like torturing it with that week, currently a cowardly-jet-avoider.

Ill never reset my TIE fighter or the 2 autobot alts ive got, (no matter how much Primal Fear sucks,) the rest I could part with if i had to, but the Zombie Cheerleader looks way too good as the pink rabit to lose, especially when she is so good at killing Blitzwing.

Thundy, at current xp gain levels, PF is stuck like that until at about mid April :(
he's generating something like a 1000xp every 2 missions Hmm!

Gah! where are all the sonic waste missions when you need them :P
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Postby Psychout » Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:06 am

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Just below average for a level 2 as far as i can tell. Still, he does alright in the 4v4 1-2's so i just camp him there and hope for decent (or any!) backup.
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Postby Phaze » Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:10 am

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Psychout wrote:Just below average for a level 2 as far as i can tell. Still, he does alright in the 4v4 1-2's so i just camp him there and hope for decent (or any!) backup.

your not going to get much joy xp wise in them missions
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Postby Psychout » Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:14 am

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Means I dont have to wait an hour till the next mission though as he sually come back alive.

I occasionally throw him in the level 2 only missions to see how well he does, but he rarely come higher than upper-mid table.
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Postby Phaze » Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:18 am

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Psychout wrote:Means I dont have to wait an hour till the next mission though as he sually come back alive.

I occasionally throw him in the level 2 only missions to see how well he does, but he rarely come higher than upper-mid table.
Try dumping him in the arena for a while i know people frown upon it but he's a rammer and they do better in that than missions usually
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Postby Psychout » Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:36 am

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Only if i cant find a suitable mission. Arena logs are so dull to read.

He'll be fine, as he's bottom 6 I dont normally bother with him muchy, they are just the filler to keep the energon comin in and for comedy purposes when im drunk.
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Postby sumowrestler » Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:51 am

Weapon: Saber Blade
My current goal is to get everyone above the 500k mark and I have only four left to break that barrier. Now, it may be until March for my very last one to get there since it is around 13k away from that point.

I am enjoying seeing the friendly interaction of Psych, Tif, and Phaze. They are "teaching" how to communicate properly on the boards to the ones who aren't famaliar with them or have ran across too many negative threads. Thanks for helping me out with this thread even if I never asked some of you to do so.
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Postby Psychout » Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:04 am

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Cheers Sumo!

Ive only got 2 past the 500K mark, but i tend to level them up to 3 about 400K ish so the others will make it pretty sharpish if they havent already.

Levelling up early has made all the difference in my opinion.
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Postby Phaze » Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:16 am

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Psychout wrote:Ive only got 2 past the 500K mark, but i tend to level them up to 3 about 400K ish so the others will make it pretty sharpish if they havent already.

Levelling up early has made all the difference in my opinion.


Personally you can hit lvl 3 around the 300k mark and still get a decent xp haul at that lvl. i know most people tend to hold back for a couple of extra stats but if you have the basic set up right you'll do well at any level but i do notice a bit of a level lag for the first couple fights but they soon get over it
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Postby Psychout » Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:27 am

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The first 3 was an accident, three or four many ales too many and Darth Fear slipped up a level...

Never looked back though, he's kicking ass there now! Mal Practice is nearly there too, but he's taking much longer as Rambulances have expensive tactic's if you dont use repair...


EDIT: An example. Evil has 530K and regually tops the level 3 misisons he is in, some of his competitors in that mission have XP of up to 1.5 million.
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Postby Tifereth » Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:45 am

^^

i only try to give a little help, before Tammuz comes and say wrong!!! :P

anyway, with 350k u can have a regular level 3 ^^
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