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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:51 am

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King Kuuga wrote:The amount of posts I'm seeing on the Facebook ads asking where to watch the show, when said ads have links to both go90 and the Tumblr in them, is kind of timing my faith in the human race.

Actually they're legitimate questions. go90 isn't available to anyone outside of the US (unless they're using a VPN) and the Tumblr has no controls other than Pause/Play. You can't go full screen or anything. (At least that's how it is in my browser)
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Sunstar » Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:33 am

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when the mistress said she was going to the chamber, I thought "thoughts and prayers" And she was the one who had the gall to consider Perceptor ineffectual because "he's not a warrior". I would consider Perceptor more effective than the mistress - or anyone who locks themselves up in a chamber to pray.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby King Kuuga » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:33 pm

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Burn wrote:Actually they're legitimate questions. go90 isn't available to anyone outside of the US (unless they're using a VPN) and the Tumblr has no controls other than Pause/Play. You can't go full screen or anything. (At least that's how it is in my browser)

What I'm seeing are people who see the video ads, go "okay this looks neat", and go to the comments to ask where they can watch it.... even though it says right there in the post where they can watch it. Neither service is ideal but the information is right there.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:20 pm

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King Kuuga wrote:
Burn wrote:Actually they're legitimate questions. go90 isn't available to anyone outside of the US (unless they're using a VPN) and the Tumblr has no controls other than Pause/Play. You can't go full screen or anything. (At least that's how it is in my browser)

What I'm seeing are people who see the video ads, go "okay this looks neat", and go to the comments to ask where they can watch it.... even though it says right there in the post where they can watch it. Neither service is ideal but the information is right there.

If it's Facebook, some people need to be replied directly to. They're incapable of reading other comments.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby King Kuuga » Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:45 pm

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See, I kinda get not reading the other comments, especially with FB not showing everything all the time. But not reading the original post which contains the video and promo blurb about where and how to watch....
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:50 pm

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Episode 4 - https://www.go90.com/videos/4H177OeLiXt

Somehow, Overlord sounds really goofy and yet delightfully so at the same time.

Whereas Emissary ends up sounding like a dime store version of Will Friedle.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:31 am

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Well I watched it last night. I guess we can put that Overlord rumor to rest. I give the series makers 1/2 gold star for not revealing all the surprises before the series premiere. I wonder if there are any more to come...? However, the information was leaked on Wikipedia before the series came out (we can say that with confidence now that it was not fans making false entries...) I just wonder where said info came from...?

Wow...Misrtress of Flame can fight?!? It was an Attack of the Clones Yoda moment heh...Too bad she went up against a bot that evidently can really take a beating without flinching.

While this Overlord is closer to IDW than Masterforce #NOTMYOVERLORD, it was still interesting to see. I guess all we can hope for is to see at some point a throw down between Megatron and Overlord. :PRAY:

I guess the missile being "our salvation or our ULTIMATE DOOm" was pretty much...all for nothing :lol: Still it was cool to see the titans finally use some weapons. Starscream is in control, and he knows it, and is happy about that. Metroplex is Cyclops from X-Men evidently.

I'll have to go back and watch the beginning. I saw all the prime symbols in the chamber, but Mistress dialogue was hard to hear over my sons constant rambling (he was excited heh...) But I thought I heard her mentioned Sentinel Prime (?) He's not one of the 13, also being an overall baddy, I'm thinking praying to him wouldn't be such a good thing.

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Sabrblade wrote:Whereas Emissary ends up sounding like a dime store version of Will Friedle.


I knew it was supposed to be Jason David Frank, but my son said the exact same thing (well he said, why does Emissary sound like Bumblebee)...but you get my meaning. Pretty good catch for an 11 year old.

No Windblade in this episode, and some decent Combiner dialogue, plus everything I previously mentioned makes this episode probably the highlight of the series so far. Am I ready to say it's *good* yet...no but at least it's trending in the right direction.

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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Madeus Prime » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:46 am

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Well, at least they did Overlord a good turn. Not perfect, but close enough to make me want to actually finish the series now. At least they nailed the OP-ness of Overlord.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Bronzewolf » Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:58 pm

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WOAHHH WE'RE HALF WAY THERE, WOAH-OH! LIVIN' ON A PRAYER.

That's right! Somehow we're almost half way through the second Machinima Transformers series, Titans Return. The episode brings new threats, the loss of old freinds, and the appearance of some new ones. So, heat up some Turkey Day leftovers, and let's dive into the fourth episode of Transformers Titans Return!

We open with the Mistress of Flame in her Prayer chamber, where she prays to the original 13 Primes. This scene, again, is sort of teasing the next animated series, Power of the Primes, with the name dropping of the Primes and the use of their symbols on the floor. I'd prefer this method of tying the shows together over throwing it in at the last second like the previous series did with the Titans.

Her meditation is interrupted by who she thinks is Megatron, but is really Overlord, a new addition to the series. It is then we are introduced to one of the biggest issues with this episode...

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...SPLIT FRAMES!!!

They're so bizarre and out of place, and haven't been used at all in this show (or the previous show, if memory serves), but are suddenly in every other shot. They're not very well framed, either, with the direction of each section being really confusing and not focused on a specific thing. They're quite distracting and I hope this isn't a running change.

Anyway, back to the plot. Overlord arrives, bringing his extremely goofy voice with him. It's this weird sort of Colonel Sanders/New Orleans accent mix that is just so ridiculous for this character it almost kind of works.

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He sounds like he's about to play some ragtime in the steamship down by the Bayou,
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The Mistress tells this new threat he's not supposed to be in the sacred chamber, and then just gets punted across the room. She retrieves her hammer and just starts wailing on him to no avail. It is by far the funniest moment of the series so far, and, matching Overlord's character overall, is just ridiculous and incredible at the same time.

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This is the equivalent of that old Cartoon cliche where the bigger character yawns while holding the smaller character back with a hand on their forehead

She finally gets one good hit in, but then returns to the inconsequential wailing. She calls in some security drones, but their shots do nothing. I understand what kind of fight scene they were going for here, sort of a Star Wars-like "Bad-ass new villain character comes in and just dominates other character who makes their final stand against him" scene, but it just doesn't work. Whether that's because I'm unable to take it seriously, or some of the direction, lines of dialogue, and movements are just a beat or two off, I don't know. I think it would have been a more emotional scene had we actually seen the Mistress getting injured. Every time she gets tossed around, she just gets back up, looking good as new. Some damage here or there, some energon dripping our of her mouth, anything like that would have gotten the emotion and tone I think they were trying to convey across.

Overlord tosses the Mistress into the light of the Prayer Chamber, which electrocutes her, and she eventually dies, in a pool of Energon, on the floor.

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While this is all going on, it's revealed that the missile launched by Fort Max actually has Emissary inside of it. He jumps off the rocket and takes control of Metroplex, telling the titan he's here to help. Metroplex says he's too late to aid in the battle, but Emissary insists, giving him LASER EYES. No, seriously

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All I want is Metroplex with frickin' LASERS coming out of his eyes.

While the battle rages on anew, the combiners are still working to fix up Fort Max. Computron discovers that, while all his weapon systems are functioning, his Transformation cog is destroyed. Victorion decides to fire all weapons systems at Trypticon, even though they have the potential to hurt or kill Metroplex in the process. While the lasers are sill soaring through the air, the episode ends.

This episode was...interesting to say the least. I'd be inclined to call it the worst episode so far, but I honestly don't think it is. I mean, sure, it's goofy and ridiculous, but it at least feels like there's something actually happening. That's a quality that past episodes have been lacking, and I've mentioned that all through-out the reviews. When looking at the episode as a whole, the pacing is by far the best of the series. Everything chugs along, with a satisfying amount of action, conflict, and story. New characters are making their way into the story which is a nice change, as well. Very little felt awkward or unnatural. The split screens were annoying, yes, but they're tolerable. It will be interesting to see where the plot goes from here.

...and that's episode four! Hope you all had a good Thanksgiving, and I'll see you in December following the release of episode 5! Thanks for reading!
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:07 pm

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Bronzewolf wrote:That's right! Somehow we're already half way through the second Machinima Transformers series,


Hate to burst your bubble there Bronzewolf, but there are 10 episodes to this series, your pain is going to have to endure a little longer, were not quite half way there yet.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby notsoalex » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:21 pm

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There are 11 episodes... 4 is not the halfway point, 5 is.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Bronzewolf » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:28 pm

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o.supreme wrote:
Bronzewolf wrote:That's right! Somehow we're already half way through the second Machinima Transformers series,


Hate to burst your bubble there Bronzewolf, but there are 10 episodes to this series, your pain is going to have to endure a little longer, were not quite half way there yet.


westjames/notirish. wrote:There are 11 episodes... 4 is not the halfway point, 5 is.


...what?!


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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby MrBlack » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:49 pm

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That episode was...pretty weird.

Overlord just shows up out of nowhere and casually murders the Mistress of Flame in an action sequence straight out of Dragon Ball Z. Why? Who knows!

We get more Titan fighting, which was fine. I can even buy the laser eyes given that Titan Masters are supposed to provide power ups to their hosts. What I don't get is why Victorion unilaterally decided to potentially destroy Metroplex along with Trypticon. We already know that the combiners are out of communication with anyone else. Why was Victorion so sure that Metroplex was losing the fight if she isn't receiving any updates on it? And why is MENASOR of all bots the voice of reason?
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby partholon » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:37 pm

just watched the last two back to back thank to the facebook link you lads steered me in the direction of.

i enjoyed it !

the first was a bit lack lustre but we got some nice snark of megs to prime. its just for a battle between two titans there doesnt seem be be alot of collateral damage going on- plus all they seemed to do half the time was run at each other.

at the very least one of em shouldve fell over crushing a good portion of the surrounding city. i thought at one stage metroplex was gonna do that but ah well.

i did get a laugh out of the combiners dialogue too. particlarly menasors response when asked what he did :D

the second was much better.

an actual decent badass introduction of a new character- overlord. who comes off as the superpowered jerk he is. and we get our first fatality of the series IIRC . plus our first titan master in the form of emmissary.

TBH i dont recall him having the power to do what he did in any bio ive read of the guy- but it IS nice to see them actually implement the notion of them upgrading bots in the show.

i really liked how fort max looked too. though i do wonder just how big cerebros is if he's that central tower !

:D :D :D :D

all in all im liking this alot more than combiner wars.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby partholon » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:42 pm

MrBlack wrote:That episode was...pretty weird.

Overlord just shows up out of nowhere and casually murders the Mistress of Flame in an action sequence straight out of Dragon Ball Z. Why? Who knows!

We get more Titan fighting, which was fine. I can even buy the laser eyes given that Titan Masters are supposed to provide power ups to their hosts. What I don't get is why Victorion unilaterally decided to potentially destroy Metroplex along with Trypticon. We already know that the combiners are out of communication with anyone else. Why was Victorion so sure that Metroplex was losing the fight if she isn't receiving any updates on it? And why is MENASOR of all bots the voice of reason?


i dont think

she had a clue if he was losing or not. i think she just saw a way of taking out trypticon and took it. TBH more conscerning to me was the fact this means not only would both titans be taken out- but odds are the very city they were trying to save and everyone in it would be leveled in the fallout too.

i think they were going for a "hiroshima/nagasaki" thing where its a horrible act - but it ends the war/threat.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby ShockBlade501 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:14 pm

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How come nobody is talking about how weird it is that Mistress of Flame thinks Sentinel Prime is one of the original 13 primes?? I had to rewind to make sure I heard that part correctly
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Primal » Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:20 pm

Ugh. The animation in this series is so slow. It makes me want to fast forward so it can be watched at a normal speed. That split screen thing also was really jarring. Who animated these shows? Did they even play it back after making it?

The Titan battle made the WORST Godzilla movie look like an Oscar winning performance. Emissary coming out of nowhere was unexpected and was probably the only pleasant surprise of that battle.

Overlord coming in was cool and I like his voice, but killing off MoF so easily was lackluster. My complaint about her boring monolithic voice in Combiner Wars is just the same here, so maybe killing her is not a bad thing. Maybe they will make her become Elita One?

The combiners being the personality again instead of the individual bots is lazy IMO. The scenes with them feel like a boring exercise why Combiner Wars wasn't well received in the first place.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Cmdr. Trailblazer » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:45 pm

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Rodimus Primal wrote:The combiners being the personality again instead of the individual bots is lazy IMO. The scenes with them feel like a boring exercise why Combiner Wars wasn't well received in the first place.


I disagree. I'm more inclined to believe, similar to the IDW continuity, the Combiners are the new 'default form' for their parts. As such, it'd make more sense that they'd appear more often in combined form than otherwise. Also, it's quite interesting (in a good way) that the Combiners have more personality than the previous show. That being said...

...ain't it annoying that they've gotten more screentime and personality than the show that was supposed to be centered around them?
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby King Kuuga » Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:39 am

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This merits mentioning.

This is the first representation of Overlord in western animation. Ever.

I think they did him decently. His voice was kind of hilarious.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:22 pm

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Ok so, 1 major critique and 1 major compliment.

Bad: That episode was so random, so scatterbrained, and so disjointed. Overlord was random, as was Emissary. And it all felt bad. Oh and the Mistress died and wow that is a lot of energon.

Good: Overlord. That right there: that was spectacular and brilliant. I loved the voice, the mannerisms, and his IDW-ness. Must be looking for Megatron to kill him here too? I loved him.

Also, in many continuities, there is a 13th, an Arisen, who is almost never named. Maybe here they think that is Sentinel, or in this one Sentinel was a good guy? Maybe, since he was a TR figure, he will show up too?
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Windsweeper » Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:19 pm

I've been enjoying Titans Return so far but this was the weakest episode for me.

Overlord and Menasor's voices just seem wrong. Especially Menasor. What moron cast his voice actor?

Otherwise I enjoyed it. I did think Mistress of Flames death, with her crawling on the floor was dark for a toy franchise but at least she died putting up a fight.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Madeus Prime » Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:37 am

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Again, not bad, terrible audio matching to movement when overlord was gloating, but it looks like TR isn't out of surprises with what appears to be the Dark Spark or some other evil version of the Matrix giving us Rodimus Unicronus. Now THAT is a kind of twist in the writing I didn't expect.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Titans Return Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:40 am

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Well well, the first Western Transformers cartoon to have a real cuss word in it.

Which is not what I wanted in this, but "adult audience". >:oP

Madeus Prime wrote:Again, not bad, terrible audio matching to movement when overlord was gloating, but it looks like TR isn't out of surprises with what appears to be the Dark Spark or some other evil version of the Matrix giving us Rodimus Unicronus. Now THAT is a kind of twist in the writing I didn't expect.
Well, considering that Rodimus Unicronus's bio flat out says that it's called the Matrix of Chaos and belongs to Unicron, it begs the question of just what to slag Foghorn Overlord here is doing having such of thing with him when he's got nothing to do with Unicron.
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Postby Stuartmaximus » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:00 am

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Madeus Prime wrote:Again, not bad, terrible audio matching to movement when overlord was gloating, but it looks like TR isn't out of surprises with what appears to be the Dark Spark or some other evil version of the Matrix giving us Rodimus Unicronus. Now THAT is a kind of twist in the writing I didn't expect.


That's what I thought, the whole introduction of Rodimus Unicronus, I mean they've got to introduce him somehow, haven't they :-?
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