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This thing looks awesome i cant wait. I hope its cheaper then tfc but i still might get that one too coz its looks cool.

ok i give up saving money. with my hands up, i say "tell me how much will this devy cost and when will menasor come out???"

TFC will have to reduce it's prices and do some catching up with this one..

Guess I should've sold my Classics Devastator on eBay the moment we saw sketches of this masterpiece. Too late. MakeToy, great attention to detail; all the way down to the treads. Time to sell some blood...

Very, very nice. Not gonna cancel my preorder for Exgraver (as that's pretty much everything I want from Devestator), but this makes a great alternative for those who don't want it. Hopefully, the prices for the other Notstructicons will drop due to competition.

TFC just went lol jk Im willing to bet the price will be right on line with the TFC guys....

Although I have to agree that this is one good-looking G1 styled devastator, I can't notice how most of the people here are bashing the TFC version of devastator because TFC hasn't shown us a completed picture.

I hope many of you do realize, that TFC's version involves more redesigning and engineering. This is evident in how they incorporate parts of individual bots into parts of the combined form. I assume, it is due to this reason, that they are behind on showing us a completed devastator.

On the other hand, MakeToy may not need as much time since their version is very similar to the classics mold.

Either this, or the Japanese are just better at making transforming toys since, it is their forte.

PS: Anyone noticed the crevice on the side of devastator's forearm? I assume they can be opened and the fists can be stored inside.

Wow.

Just... wow.

I like this one because it's in scale with the other combiners, and that may be what sells this to me. I'm not sure though, because I suspect TFC is going to have to start upping their game, and maybe we'lll start seeing something from them soon on this.

This thing looks amazing. It's in scale too...I will own this

Mkall wrote:Wow.

Just... wow.

I like this one because it's in scale with the other combiners, and that may be what sells this to me. I'm not sure though, because I suspect TFC is going to have to start upping their game, and maybe we'lll start seeing something from them soon on this.

I sure hope so because right now, they are getting left in the dust. I still plan on buying both though. I think they will look differently enough.

azurekaiser wrote:Although I have to agree that this is one good-looking G1 styled devastator, I can't notice how most of the people here are bashing the TFC version of devastator because TFC hasn't shown us a completed picture.

I hope many of you do realize, that TFC's version involves more redesigning and engineering. This is evident in how they incorporate parts of individual bots into parts of the combined form. I assume, it is due to this reason, that they are behind on showing us a completed devastator.

On the other hand, MakeToy may not need as much time since their version is very similar to the classics mold.

I think most people are just irritated that it's been months (at least 5, probably more), and we're basically seeing a lot of the same thing. And considering TFC wants you to buy the first figure now and invest about 600 dollars all together for Hercules, they at least need to reveal all of the figure models so we can see what we'll ultimately get. If they weren't ready to do this, they should have waited.

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It's kinda hard to make the claim since we haven't seen all of either (clearly, at least), but I like what I've seen from Hercules better. Better individual bot modes (it appears, anyhow) and looks to better intigrate the combiner aspect. But!...if MT's is roughly half the price and is all released at once, before TFC even gets 2 or 3 of theirs released, I think I'd be forced to buy that and wait and see Hercules' finished product before buying any more of it than the Exgraver fig that I already ordered and paid for. That said, this one probably won't come out till 4 or 5 of TFCs have been put out to keep everyone on the fence as long as humanly possible.

TFC, if you're listening...get those last two figs' prototypes out like yesterday and make damn sure the quality of Exgraver is top notch.

Kibble wrote:It's kinda hard to make the claim since we haven't seen all of either (clearly, at least), but I like what I've seen from Hercules better. Better individual bot modes (it appears, anyhow) and looks to better intigrate the combiner aspect. But!...if MT's is roughly half the price and is all released at once, before TFC even gets 2 or 3 of theirs released, I think I'd be forced to buy that and wait and see Hercules finished product before buying any more of it than the Exgraver fig that I already ordered and paid for. That said, this one probably won't come out till 4 or 5 of TFCs have been put out to keep everyone on the fence as long as humanly possible.

TFC, if you're listening...get those last two figs' prototypes out like yesterday and make damn sure the quality of Exgraver is top notch.

I think what really hurt TFC is that they decided to show off the individual bots before showing us pictures of the combined mode. They also decided to start selling these figures before "Hercules" was even complete. I think those two factors has made this project kind of stail to some people. Especially since the combined mode will be the mode most of us keep it in.

As far as the MT's individual constructicons go, I'm actually liking what I see from the blurry photos. The sleek robot modes look excellent IMO.

I also try to not compare the two. MakeToy's version is going to be smaller and fit into a classics collection.(based on the scale set by the previous FP combiners) The TFC one will be massive and present you with the opportunity to place him in any collection or give him a shelf to himself. That's why I ultimately plan on getting both.

I'm hoping for a stagger release of these figures. Just guessing, but I can see them doing two figures a month at the friendly $47.99 range.(per figure I mean)

This is way better than TFClub's version. Until they make a Mixmaster and scrapper themselves. I really hope that the cement barrel is able too spin around.

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azurekaiser wrote:Although I have to agree that this is one good-looking G1 styled devastator, I can't notice how most of the people here are bashing the TFC version of devastator because TFC hasn't shown us a completed picture.

I hope many of you do realize, that TFC's version involves more redesigning and engineering. This is evident in how they incorporate parts of individual bots into parts of the combined form. I assume, it is due to this reason, that they are behind on showing us a completed devastator.

On the other hand, MakeToy may not need as much time since their version is very similar to the classics mold.

I think most people are just irritated that it's been months (at least 5, probably more), and we're basically seeing a lot of the same thing. And considering TFC wants you to buy the first figure now and invest about 600 dollars all together for Hercules, they at least need to reveal all of the figure models so we can see what we'll ultimately get. If they weren't ready to do this, they should have waited.

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Well, people have been demanding that TFC started taking pre-orders for them for at least 4 months now. And now that the first pre-order is up and we know the prices, people complain about the pre-orders happening too soon. Talk about double standards.

amcgrath929 wrote:I also try to not compare the two. MakeToy's version is going to be smaller and fit into a classics collection.(based on the scale set by the previous FP combiners) The TFC one will be massive and present you with the opportunity to place him in any collection or give him a shelf to himself. That's why I ultimately plan on getting both.

Based on the info I've read, TFC's combined mode should be about the same height as this one. It might have more bulk, but the initial claims were it would be 30cm tall combined and the pics of it with known figures seemed to back up those claims. I don't think TFC's will be quite as HUGE as many people seem to think he will be.

Well, I think I'm getting the MakeToy version.

I have more confidence in this piece since they actually have pics of a complete Devastator. I was onl the fence about Hercules cause we have yet to see all of the figure. Now that MakeToy has come out with pics of a complete combiner, I'm quite pleased with what I'm seeing.

I'm going to hope this sits in the $250-300 range. If they stagger the release, I hope it's in the form of 2 packs and not 1 every 2 months.

See TFC? Not showing us everything is coming back to bite you in the butt. As much as I like the Hercules design, you just have not shown me enough to put confidence in you for investing $600.

Although this is a billion times sexier than the TFC not dev, I'm still weary of the actual outcome, haven't heard anything about this company and no one knows of their QA practices.

This one will be mine "no matter the cost".

Yeah, I'm gonna have to get this one. Might want to start saving now and cancel anything else I may want to get, because I'll bet this one is going to be expensive........

Kibble wrote:

amcgrath929 wrote:I also try to not compare the two. MakeToy's version is going to be smaller and fit into a classics collection.(based on the scale set by the previous FP combiners) The TFC one will be massive and present you with the opportunity to place him in any collection or give him a shelf to himself. That's why I ultimately plan on getting both.

Based on the info I've read, TFC's combined mode should be about the same height as this one. It might have more bulk, but the initial claims were it would be 30cm tall combined and the pics of it with known figures seemed to back up those claims. I don't think TFC's will be quite as HUGE as many people seem to think he will be.

They had a picture of a mockup using doubles of Exgraver and the leg fig at Botcon and Hercules is taller than Bruticus by about a scout to deluxe going by the figures next to it in the picture.

Midnight_Fox wrote:

Kibble wrote:

amcgrath929 wrote:I also try to not compare the two. MakeToy's version is going to be smaller and fit into a classics collection.(based on the scale set by the previous FP combiners) The TFC one will be massive and present you with the opportunity to place him in any collection or give him a shelf to himself. That's why I ultimately plan on getting both.

Based on the info I've read, TFC's combined mode should be about the same height as this one. It might have more bulk, but the initial claims were it would be 30cm tall combined and the pics of it with known figures seemed to back up those claims. I don't think TFC's will be quite as HUGE as many people seem to think he will be.

They had a picture of a mockup using doubles of Exgraver and the leg fig at Botcon and Hercules is taller than Bruticus by about a scout to deluxe going by the figures next to it in the picture.

True, and that's just a little too big for my NeoG1 shelf. That's why MakeToy will be with my classics and maybe the TFC one will get a shelf to himself. I've also thought about keeping one in Devastator mode and the other will stay separate.

I was going from info based off a thread on TFW and info that was supposedly released early on saying he was 30cm.

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transform ... ost6167057

But one of the last posts another guy does his estimates and comes up with about 15"...so I guess who knows?

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transform ... ost6242875

...looks like I picked the wrong week to quit collecting toys...

edit: I am bustin nuts over the deets... Devys head has this robocop vibe to it... hook it up with a flip up visor, doe! Jizz inducing shenanigans...

For a first release these Maketoys look absolutely amazing. I definitely want this much more than the TFclub one or whatever. I want to get this eventually if its within my price point.

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I wonder what will come first, Constructicons, Minibots, or G2 Prime upgrade?

azurekaiser wrote:Although I have to agree that this is one good-looking G1 styled devastator, I can't notice how most of the people here are bashing the TFC version of devastator because TFC hasn't shown us a completed picture.

I hope many of you do realize, that TFC's version involves more redesigning and engineering. This is evident in how they incorporate parts of individual bots into parts of the combined form. I assume, it is due to this reason, that they are behind on showing us a completed devastator.

On the other hand, MakeToy may not need as much time since their version is very similar to the classics mold.

Either this, or the Japanese are just better at making transforming toys since, it is their forte.

PS: Anyone noticed the crevice on the side of devastator's forearm? I assume they can be opened and the fists can be stored inside.

i wouldn't make the assumation that TFC's version involved more redesigning and that is the reason why they are slower at showing us a completed Devastator. There are a many possible reasons: MakeToys might have better designers; more experience; deeper pockets; and even better marketing than TFC.