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Agamemnon wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:

Woot! He has a neck! (I believe early prototype pics lacked a neck. I remember somebody mentioning that. He looks good!)

He DOES look good. I had no plans of getting him, but decided to preorder just in case. Can always cancel it.

I want this like a fat kid wants cake.

megatronus wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:

Woot! He has a neck! (I believe early prototype pics lacked a neck. I remember somebody mentioning that. He looks good!)

He DOES look good. I had no plans of getting him, but decided to preorder just in case. Can always cancel it.

Why not? Warbotron?

mooncake623 wrote:Why not? Warbotron?

Well, I'm actually impressed with Quantron...

I just can't stop gushing over how beautifully coloured Computron is.

It's my favorite combiner. I HAVE to pre-order this. I'd be silly not to.

Four. Hundred. And thirty. Dollars.

Dang. I let it sink in and process and I just can't do it right now. Perhaps not at all. I don't mind paying for quality, but I just got into a fight with my lady over our car payment, so....

Autobot032 wrote:Four. Hundred. And thirty. Dollars.

Dang. I let it sink in and process and I just can't do it right now. Perhaps not at all. I don't mind paying for quality, but I just got into a fight with my lady over our car payment, so....

I keep bouncing that number against my brain aswell cause i'm thinking the exact same thing your thinking....car payment.

But what i do appreciate the most about it is that it will be sold as a box set which is unheard of in a new 3rd party release. No waiting around with your thumb up your ass for a year as each fig gets released. It's all in one shot. Which says alot in my opinion and that's what is keeping me on the fence to whether or not i just bite the bullet.

MGrotusque wrote:I just can't stop gushing over how beautifully coloured Computron is.

It's my favorite combiner. I HAVE to pre-order this. I'd be silly not to.

I agree. The original was more brown. But I really like rusty red they used.

Just pre ordered through Kapow.

Computron has always been my favorite G1 combiner, but I won't be getting this set. There are a few things I do like about it, such as the bright and dark reds they used, but way too many things that I don't.

The short list:

1. Most of the alt modes look terrible, particularly Lightspeed and Afterburner
2. Several of the bot modes look horrible, I think Afterburner's the worst
3. Their limb modes look pretty junky, especially Lightspeed and Afterburner, the former of which looks like his parts were basically turned inside-out
4. The combined mode's chest is supposed to resemble a gigantic computer/series of computer panels (hence the name Computron) but with the artistic license Maketoys has taken with it to break it up and of course improve his leg articulation, that look is totally non-existent in this version
5. As always, the combined mode's elbows looking like a couple of robot legs, although they did do a better job of it than FP thanks to those pistons, which make it at least a little more convincing
6. The head is sunk down between those shoulder/chest bits way too much. Raise it up an inch or so and it would look fine.

I don't like the giant longbow/crossbow gimmick, but the cannon does look good on its back, so I can't take any points off for that. As always, of course, I'm bothered by the Scout class size instead of Deluxe, but since it's Maketoys, that's to be expected.

I've looked at Warbotron's and it doesn't seem that they've done much better than Maketoys so I guess I'm still waiting for someone to do a Computron that I like. Hopefully sometime down the road after these are out, FP, MMC or TFC will give the Technobots a shot and will deliver something more suiting my tastes. Until then, I guess I'll just have to do without a 'Classics Computron' in my collection. It's a real bummer too, because I was super excited as soon as I heard that Maketoys was doing them.

I do love the fact that they're selling it as a complete boxed set rather than taking forever to get the whole thing out by releasing the figures one at a time and that from the beginning, anyone buying it/them knows exactly what each member looks like in all modes and what the combined mode looks like rather than shadowy silhouettes, renders or no information at all until after the first bot (or more) is out. I hope more of these third parties follow suit and do the same. Taking a year to complete a combiner one figure at a time really sucks. They all know that most of us buy these things primarily for the combined modes, so having to purchase it piecemeal over the course of many months is a real pain in the ass, especially when there are multiple combiners coming out at the same time. It's more expensive to buy it all at once in the short term, but it's a hell of a lot less trying for one's patience. They also don't run the risk of someone losing interest after the first figure or so and deciding to back out on getting the whole set, selling off the one or so they got on the aftermarket and never paying up for the complete combiner (something far more likely to happen these days with all the third party and now possibly official competition from Hasbro).

Oh well, maybe more pictures will convince me it's worth getting, but I'm just not sold on it at this point.

I don't mind the slow release of a combiner.

It not only eases the wallet strain, but it also allows me to enjoy the early figs for a while before they inevitably end up in combined mode for long, long stretches of time.

I do admit, I dislike not knowing the entire combined look.
Back when Herc was released the 3P combiners were new, and the whole thing, including not knowing if it would all see the light of day, was exciting. Even with the Aerialbots and Predaking, we had a good idea of what the "missing" bots would look like, as there were either prototypes, or they were similar to the other limb-bots.

But with combiners like Computron and the Protectobots, each bot is so unique I want to see all of them before I commit.

For me, though, I'm skipping this.
It is a tough skip, it looks really good, but I prefer the TFC scale combiners.

The only disappointment for me is Lightspeed. His alt mode seems tiny compared to everyone else while his bot mode compared to the others seems completely out of place.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Computron is one of the combiners I don't feel it's worth spending 3rd party prices on.

before this figure, i couldnt give two poops over computron. to me, he just looks that good. im drooling over this figure.

one thing i dont understand is how flabbergasted everyone is over the price. given past third party prices, its completely accurate. cheaper even. they could have easily slapped a 450-500 price tag on him. FP menasor is 390 with 40 shipping at chimung, which is the most comparable to compy here and probably the cheapest online FP menasor.

shajaki wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Computron is one of the combiners I don't feel it's worth spending 3rd party prices on.

before this figure, i couldnt give two poops over computron. to me, he just looks that good. im drooling over this figure.

one thing i dont understand is how flabbergasted everyone is over the price. given past third party prices, its completely accurate. cheaper even. they could have easily slapped a 450-500 price tag on him. FP menasor is 390 with 40 shipping at chimung, which is the most comparable to compy here and probably the cheapest online FP menasor.

I disagree with T as well, but there are cheaper M3s. TFsource has him or $380 shipped. They also have UT's Predaking for $300 shipped. Just seems this size class of gestalt is going for a bit cheaper.

megatronus wrote:

shajaki wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Computron is one of the combiners I don't feel it's worth spending 3rd party prices on.

before this figure, i couldnt give two poops over computron. to me, he just looks that good. im drooling over this figure.

one thing i dont understand is how flabbergasted everyone is over the price. given past third party prices, its completely accurate. cheaper even. they could have easily slapped a 450-500 price tag on him. FP menasor is 390 with 40 shipping at chimung, which is the most comparable to compy here and probably the cheapest online FP menasor.

I disagree with T as well, but there are cheaper M3s. TFsource has him or $380 shipped. They also have UT's Predaking for $300 shipped. Just seems this size class of gestalt is going for a bit cheaper.

my bad. i just assumed chimung was the cheapest. but UT's warlord... he's 300 for a reason

shajaki wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Computron is one of the combiners I don't feel it's worth spending 3rd party prices on.

before this figure, i couldnt give two poops over computron. to me, he just looks that good. im drooling over this figure.

one thing i dont understand is how flabbergasted everyone is over the price. given past third party prices, its completely accurate. cheaper even. they could have easily slapped a 450-500 price tag on him. FP menasor is 390 with 40 shipping at chimung, which is the most comparable to compy here and probably the cheapest online FP menasor.

I don't think anyone was actually saying this was too expensive. At least I don't remember that argument. More, I and others were whining a little that they all are coming in at once in a giftset. It hits some of our wallets and budgets better if we can spread out the cost over several months. Not to mention it can help avoid the arguments with my accountant if she sees $100 on the credit card bill versus $500. I'd just rather avoid those arguments...

Agamemnon wrote:

shajaki wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Computron is one of the combiners I don't feel it's worth spending 3rd party prices on.

before this figure, i couldnt give two poops over computron. to me, he just looks that good. im drooling over this figure.

one thing i dont understand is how flabbergasted everyone is over the price. given past third party prices, its completely accurate. cheaper even. they could have easily slapped a 450-500 price tag on him. FP menasor is 390 with 40 shipping at chimung, which is the most comparable to compy here and probably the cheapest online FP menasor.

I don't think anyone was actually saying this was too expensive. At least I don't remember that argument. More, I and others were whining a little that they all are coming in at once in a giftset. It hits some of our wallets and budgets better if we can spread out the cost over several months. Not to mention it can help avoid the arguments with my accountant if she sees $100 on the credit card bill versus $500. I'd just rather avoid those arguments...

Yeah, needlessly riling up the Missus is never productive.

From a marketing angle, separate first then a gift set at the end is the best idea. Even though in the end its about the same cost, I am more likely to balk at spending 5 bills. Once I get one I'm likely gonna continue but it is just so much easier to part w it 100 at a time IMO...plus I do like the build up and fooling around some w the individual bots first. This guy is pre-odered already but the big price has had me rethink the Utopia (Metroplex) I was gonna get. Looks like they will be ready close together.

Here's a couple of nice close ups .













Fansformers .

Yeeeeaaaaaahhhhhhh....I think this is worth a "discussion" with he accountant. After the fact, of course.

Agamemnon wrote:Yeeeeaaaaaahhhhhhh....I think this is worth a "discussion" with he accountant. After the fact, of course.

It's easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission

In hand images of Quantrons box .

Autobot Genocide wrote:In hand images of Quantrons box .

Thanks, Genocide.

And with this, I'll have seven of the ten G1 combiners I need! WOOT!

Damn that box is beastly.

Nice pic from TJ Duckett c/o TFW2005

robotmel wrote::D
Nice pic from TJ Duckett c/o TFW2005

These guys are very reminiscent of the Stunticons - maybe the FP team that designed them helped or were hired to assist in the design of Quantron. None of FP's current lines (WB, FX, LER) seem to have quite the same look as Causality.