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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby william-james88 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:45 am

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william-james88 wrote:Again, what nipples?

The pointy things on the end of the "breasts".

Thats not what nipples look like.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:45 am

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BluePhirePB wrote:I think it's great we're seeing more Beast Wars in the MP line. I hope they do more Predacons in the future. Inferno, Rampage (though even the original toy was pretty accurate) ... and Transmetal 2 Dinobot!

So far Takara have said its season 1 cast only at the moment but if sales are good...


Indeed. Plus of course we do have a few repaints and retools on offer through the Season One molds.

Cheetor - Nightprowler

Inferno - Antagony

Megatron - T-Wrecks

Dinobot - Grimlock, Hardhead, Thrustor

Scorponok - Double Punch, Sandstorm

Terrorsaur - Fractyl, Laserbeak, Hydra, Terranotron

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That is thirteen more characters, adding to the full Season One roster of 14. Plus the existing Primal redeco and Shadow Panther.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:35 am

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Hardhead, Thrustor, and Hydra need new molds different from Dinobot and Terrorsaur since their cartoon models were much more toy-accurate than Mainframe's very cheaty CG models.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:39 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Hardhead, Thrustor, and Hydra need new molds different from Dinobot and Terrorsaur since their cartoon models were much more toy-accurate than Mainframe's very cheaty CG models.


True*.
Yet taking them off the list, that is still an additional Ten characters. Sans the Primal redeco, that would bring the Beast Wars Masterpiece line to 25 characters :APPLAUSE:

EDIT* I do forget those characters existed outside of the figures.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby sol magnus » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:49 am

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sol magnus wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Again, what nipples?

The pointy things on the end of the "breasts".

Thats not what nipples look like.

Hey, I think the entire "argument" is frivolous. I think it's cartoon accurate. I appreciate the work that goes into the MP Beast Wars guys. I don't have a dog in the fight, really. I don't get them.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby william-james88 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:34 pm

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sol magnus wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Again, what nipples?

The pointy things on the end of the "breasts".

Thats not what nipples look like.

Hey, I think the entire "argument" is frivolous. I think it's cartoon accurate. I appreciate the work that goes into the MP Beast Wars guys. I don't have a dog in the fight, really. I don't get them.

Neither do I :lol:
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:46 pm

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I can understand the weird feelings towards her chest plate, but this is how she looked, and the colors will almost definitely drown that out.

And besides, this is not an explicit sexualization (like some 3P thingies that went way too far...), this is her look, and she had that look and kicked ass and generally became one of the best characters of both shows she was in. She is more than her initial CG design.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby -Kanrabat- » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:08 pm

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Ironhidensh wrote:regardless, it feels inaporopriate. There is show accuracy, and then there is taking it too damn far, especially in this day and age.

These young kids think everything is inappropriate these days, get off my lawn!


What the world is turning to?

Seriously, the Victorian PRUDE army is taking over. I play Hearthstone and look what they did to poor Jaina in the latest update some days ago:



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Seriously, I thought young people were supposed to be "liberated sexually", not to be so uptight.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby King Kuuga » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:30 pm

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This thread is like 50% arguing back and forth about Blackarachnia's supposed nipples.

Due to the polygonal structure, her breasts come to a point. Call them nipples or don't, they were on the show model and they're on the toy. Can we talk about something else now?
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Hellscream9999 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:49 pm

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King Kuuga wrote:This thread is like 50% arguing back and forth about Blackarachnia's supposed nipples.

Due to the polygonal structure, her breasts come to a point. Call them nipples or don't, they were on the show model and they're on the toy. Can we talk about something else now?

Like how legit gorgeous her energon web is? I bet she looks amazing hanging from it in beast mode :-D

I don't normally go there, but, I think I would be okay paying more for her, if they gave her a bigger web, and the stand was lit in a way to light up the web
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Burn » Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:04 pm

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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:06 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:Like how legit gorgeous her energon web is? I bet she looks amazing hanging from it in beast mode :-D

I agree, that stand is absolutely gorgeous!! I appreciate the Beasts coming with stands, I really like that
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby -Kanrabat- » Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:10 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:Like how legit gorgeous her energon web is? I bet she looks amazing hanging from it in beast mode :-D

I agree, that stand is absolutely gorgeous!! I appreciate the Beasts coming with stands, I really like that



But is it really her stand? Because for Blackie, this will not be a luxury, considering most of her toys have a hard time standing on their own.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Hellscream9999 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:13 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:Like how legit gorgeous her energon web is? I bet she looks amazing hanging from it in beast mode :-D

I agree, that stand is absolutely gorgeous!! I appreciate the Beasts coming with stands, I really like that



But is it really her stand? Because for Blackie, this will not be a luxury, considering most of her toys have a hard time standing on their own.

Maybe, maybe not, if you notice the ball sockets of her beast mode legs, they don't allow the legs to be raised past a certain point, so I think that bit of forced structural integrity will help her stand on her own, plus, I would think that that would be a prerequisite for releasing her, plus her legs are also all pinned ;)^
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:45 am

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To be fair, they shouldn't need stands, if built properly. Flashy poses are fine for some, but Bot and Beast should be able to stand comfortably on their own. It wouldn't be a great engineering feat for Takara to make them balanced and weight evenly distributed.

Given these superficial stands have only really come into play with Dinobot, I can't see the point in say Scorponok, Rhinox or Rattrap having such things boxed with them. Hopefully this doesn't become an ongoing trend Post-Blackarachnia, to knock the price up by a couple of quid.
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Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:20 am

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:To be fair, they shouldn't need stands, if built properly. Flashy poses are fine for some, but Bot and Beast should be able to stand comfortably on their own. It wouldn't be a great engineering feat for Takara to make them balanced and weight evenly distributed.

Given these superficial stands have only really come into play with Dinobot, I can't see the point in say Scorponok, Rhinox or Rattrap having such things boxed with them. Hopefully this doesn't become an ongoing trend Post-Blackarachnia, to knock the price up by a couple of quid.

I can't see scorpy having one as he's going to be bulky as is, and there won't be any thing they could put in that would be dynamic like BA Web. Rattrap is the only one who I could see getting anything like it
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:31 am

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I wouldn't say he would be bulky at all. I do think that, other that the Fliers, as the remaining Season One cast are squat with multiple legs, there is no point to stands. Accessories and extras sure but stands would be redundant.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:57 am

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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:02 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:I always forget that he was different in stature then the toy


I had the toy before I saw the show... It was always a disappointment :(
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Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:17 pm

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I'm kind of curious about transformation. I see panel lines in various shots. It's just, she's quite... thin. Well, it's true! ;) But yeah. I'm curious/concerned as to how it'll go.
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Postby Hellscream9999 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:30 pm

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RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:I'm kind of curious about transformation. I see panel lines in various shots. It's just, she's quite... thin. Well, it's true! ;) But yeah. I'm curious/concerned as to how it'll go.

I'm certain she basically uses ladder-magic to turn inside out
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Postby Emerje » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:33 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:To be fair, they shouldn't need stands, if built properly. Flashy poses are fine for some, but Bot and Beast should be able to stand comfortably on their own. It wouldn't be a great engineering feat for Takara to make them balanced and weight evenly distributed.

Given these superficial stands have only really come into play with Dinobot, I can't see the point in say Scorponok, Rhinox or Rattrap having such things boxed with them. Hopefully this doesn't become an ongoing trend Post-Blackarachnia, to knock the price up by a couple of quid.

I can't see scorpy having one as he's going to be bulky as is, and there won't be any thing they could put in that would be dynamic like BA Web. Rattrap is the only one who I could see getting anything like it

I can't see him coming with a big stand for the figure, but I really hope he comes with a small clear one for his cyberbee drone.

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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:34 pm

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RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:I'm kind of curious about transformation. I see panel lines in various shots. It's just, she's quite... thin. Well, it's true! ;) But yeah. I'm curious/concerned as to how it'll go.

I'm certain she basically uses ladder-magic to turn inside out

Probably. I am very interested to see how they'll accomplish it. :)
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Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:58 pm

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This transformation mystery is gonna be a fun one to see happen.

And I really don't mind the stands. I'm ok with spending the extra bit to allow for some more dynamic poses and such, and if she comes with the web that would be even cooler, so in character for her
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