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I like the Wreckers displayed individually.

Though it would be cool if Impactor and Roadbuster had shoulder mounted cannons.

Oh, and I do have Twintwist displayed in tank mode with the double drill bits out front.

Blurrz wrote:Not like anyone wants to showcase these guys in their individual modes While I wouldn't mind new molds for each Combaticon I'll take what I can get.

Well, while I cannot speak specifically for this combiner team, I know that for the few I have in my collection (Giant Type 61 and Fansproject upgraded Classics Combaticons) I do like to switch thing up somewhat. They are most often displayed in their gestalt form, but sometimes I'll switch things up and have them all as vehicles, or as individual robots. I've always been a firm believer that half of the fun of collecting transforming toys is... well... transforming them! And when I do, I typically do it a shelf at a time, then I leave them on display in whatever mode I just changed them into until I feel like doing it again.

If you owned the Hollowcons.. I mean Combaticons, you'd refrain from having the majority of them in robot mode.

Blurrz wrote:If you owned the Hollowcons.. I mean Combaticons, you'd refrain from having the majority of them in robot mode.

Except for Vortex, he's just sexy :

I mean just look at that brilliant G1 style head sculpt, that awesome torso, those vivid colors. Bright red and purple just work and those fluorescent highlights don't hurt one bit either .

I think Vortex working is a matter of opinion...

Personally, if I had the FOC Combaticons, I would probably only display Blast-Off in robot mode.

megatronus wrote:I think Vortex working is a matter of opinion...

Personally, if I had the FOC Combaticons, I would probably only display Blast-Off in robot mode.

Hehe, yeah, I'm sort of a Beast Wars freak, so bright/crazy color schemes are really my taste, but it's certainly an acquired taste (just ask any fan for Transformers Generation 2).

Personally I like all five in 'bot and vehicle mode, I just wish Onslaught and Brawl were taller/bigger and Swindle was shorter.

If they do this guy in retail colours, and combined mode is almost as tall or just as tall as Herc, then I will have found my Classics Combaticons.

Arctorro wrote:If they do this guy in retail colours, and combined mode is almost as tall or just as tall as Herc, then I will have found my Classics Combaticons.

I've been struggling to figure out whether I can accept them as Classics, which is weird, because I already have done so for Genesis and WFC Prime/Megatron.

megatronus wrote:

Arctorro wrote:If they do this guy in retail colours, and combined mode is almost as tall or just as tall as Herc, then I will have found my Classics Combaticons.

I've been struggling to figure out whether I can accept them as Classics, which is weird, because I already have done so for Genesis and WFC Prime/Megatron.

Integrating something that is aesthetically different starts with liking the individual figure (obviously there is more to it than that). Do you like the Combaticons as much as Genesis and WFC Prime/Megatron? If not, that might be the reason it is harder to accept them...

Genesis is my Classics Omega because he is freaken awesome, but there is no way I could ever accept WFC Prime and Megatron because I don't like them very much.

Arctorro wrote:

megatronus wrote:

Arctorro wrote:If they do this guy in retail colours, and combined mode is almost as tall or just as tall as Herc, then I will have found my Classics Combaticons.

I've been struggling to figure out whether I can accept them as Classics, which is weird, because I already have done so for Genesis and WFC Prime/Megatron.

Integrating something that is aesthetically different starts with liking the individual figure (obviously there is more to it than that). Do you like the Combaticons as much as Genesis and WFC Prime/Megatron? If not, that might be the reason it is harder to accept them...

Genesis is my Classics Omega because he is freaken awesome, but there is no way I could ever accept WFC Prime and Megatron because I don't like them very much.

I think my standards are just different for big & small figures - the difference between being a prominent focal point in a visual display, and being a minor part of a large, deluxe/voyager ensemble.

Genesis very strongly resembles G1 Omega. The colors are basically right, and outside of being a WFC design, you can say the aesthetics essentially represent a nice, big, and blocky Classics update.

Bruticus is very different, starting with the colors, but extending to the actual designs. Where Genesis is blocky, you have a sleek movie influence on the Combaticons, which extends to the gestalt mode. Plus, and this might be the nail in the coffin for me, I would find him out of place amongst more Classics-styled combiners like Hercules, Feral Rex, & Intimidator. But it remains a toss up.

I'm surprised you're not a fan of WFC Optimus & Megatron. I got the Takara versions of both when they were on clearance at TFsource ($30 each), and I couldn't be happier with them. They're just superior to the Hasbro version in this case. Optimus makes a better IDW Optimus than IDW Optimus, in my humble opinion, and I consider Takara WFC Megatron to be the best Classics Megatron to date. With the SXS mace, he is an imposing presence that sums up the history of the character, especially since he has that alien, movie & animated influence to him.

I know that's somewhat contradictory, but what can I say, I like what I like.


*cough* Back on topic *cough*


Interested to see some color renders of this Onslaught alongside the Combaticons!

On the other hand, it's extremely hard to argue with this:

megatronus wrote:On the other hand, it's extremely hard to argue with this:

Bingo, that's the picture that sold me right there. As soon as I saw that and remembered how he looked in the game, I realized these guys really nailed him and fixed the proportions .

xyl360 wrote:

megatronus wrote:On the other hand, it's extremely hard to argue with this:

Bingo, that's the picture that sold me right there. As soon as I saw that and remembered how he looked in the game, I realized these guys really nailed him and fixed the proportions .

This picture is Awesome. I'm going to get him and use it on my ruination limbs. yep... just really don't want to buy another set of the FOC combiner molds... =X

megatronus wrote:I think my standards are just different for big & small figures - the difference between being a prominent focal point in a visual display, and being a minor part of a large, deluxe/voyager ensemble.

Genesis very strongly resembles G1 Omega. The colors are basically right, and outside of being a WFC design, you can say the aesthetics essentially represent a nice, big, and blocky Classics update.

A more prominent piece can definitely require stricter set of personal rules for inclusion in a set.

megatronus wrote:Bruticus is very different, starting with the colors, but extending to the actual designs. Where Genesis is blocky, you have a sleek movie influence on the Combaticons, which extends to the gestalt mode. Plus, and this might be the nail in the coffin for me, I would find him out of place amongst more Classics-styled combiners like Hercules, Feral Rex, & Intimidator. But it remains a toss up.

For my personal tastes I'm thinking this Bruticus will go with Herc, Uranos and Feral Rex really well, much better than Intimidator. But, as I said, I really like the FoC molds so that helps my decision a lot.

megatronus wrote:I'm surprised you're not a fan of WFC Optimus & Megatron. I got the Takara versions of both when they were on clearance at TFsource ($30 each), and I couldn't be happier with them. They're just superior to the Hasbro version in this case. Optimus makes a better IDW Optimus than IDW Optimus, in my humble opinion, and I consider Takara WFC Megatron to be the best Classics Megatron to date. With the SXS mace, he is an imposing presence that sums up the history of the character, especially since he has that alien, movie & animated influence to him.

I know that's somewhat contradictory, but what can I say, I like what I like.


*cough* Back on topic *cough*


Interested to see some color renders of this Onslaught alongside the Combaticons!

Part of my dislike is the size of them. Optimus and Megatron must be larger on my shelves which is why Hegemon replaced Classics Megatron and Orion is going to replace Classics Optimus. As for the Takara versions, I never paid them much notice (the size reasons) because no matter how good they are, they could never be Optimus and Megatron for me.

The only scale I really care about is robot scale and gestalts and faction leaders are the most important to get right.

As you said, we should get back on topic, though discussing the reasons behind why this upgrade dose or doesn't work isn't really off topic. I really want them to confirm if they are doing just the one colour scheme or going with multiple versions so I know which version to pick up. Repainted my retail set, so I am technically free to go with that again or get the Platinum Edition set, though would prefer the retail version.

megatronus wrote:On the other hand, it's extremely hard to argue with this:

That's the image that sold me.

I'm in the same boat as megatronus, trying to accept the FoC designs as Classics. I'm kind of fixated on the Combaticons having Earthly forms, plus I'm not all that smitten with the figures themselves. (Brawl really should have more mass.)

But just like

megatronus wrote:...it's extremely hard to argue with this:

xyl360 wrote:

Blurrz wrote:If you owned the Hollowcons.. I mean Combaticons, you'd refrain from having the majority of them in robot mode.

Except for Vortex, he's just sexy :

I mean just look at that brilliant G1 style head sculpt, that awesome torso, those vivid colors. Bright red and purple just work and those fluorescent highlights don't hurt one bit either .

lol, it's Razorclaw.

megatronus wrote:On the other hand, it's extremely hard to argue with this:

Damn ... how much do the Tak versions go for these days? ...

Dead Metal wrote:Damn ... how much do the Tak versions go for these days? ...

$176 @ TFsource: http://tfsource.com/products/view/product_id/5437/

$120 @ BBTS (Clearance!): http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail


EDIT: If Microblaze announces a Takara-colored version, I might go for the Takara Combaticons. They're only $20 more than the Platinum set (which is the other set I would consider), with the plus of not coming with that hideously deco-ed Grimlock.

megatronus wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:Damn ... how much do the Tak versions go for these days? ...

$176 @ TFsource: http://tfsource.com/products/view/product_id/5437/

$120 @ BBTS (Clearance!): http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

Thanks, but if I did, I would only get the limbs. Still debating though.

Dead Metal wrote:

megatronus wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:Damn ... how much do the Tak versions go for these days? ...

$176 @ TFsource: http://tfsource.com/products/view/product_id/5437/

$120 @ BBTS (Clearance!): http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

Thanks, but if I did, I would only get the limbs. Still debating though.

The limbs are $38 apiece on BBTS... so you're still paying $32 less for the set, and get Onslaught as a bonus.

megatronus wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:

megatronus wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:Damn ... how much do the Tak versions go for these days? ...

$176 @ TFsource: http://tfsource.com/products/view/product_id/5437/

$120 @ BBTS (Clearance!): http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

Thanks, but if I did, I would only get the limbs. Still debating though.

The limbs are $38 apiece on BBTS... so you're still paying $32 less for the set, and get Onslaught as a bonus.

Yea, just did the math.
Still not sure, I only really collect MPs these days, so I'mstill debating, I just found out that I could afford Unimetal Optimus.
So I'm currently doing number crunching for my oddity shelf; this thing, Unimetal Optimus, or the Black MP repaints. I can only jump for one of those options right now, but currently I'm leaning towards the black MPs.

But damn, that pic does make it kinda hard.

Dead Metal wrote:

megatronus wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:

megatronus wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:Damn ... how much do the Tak versions go for these days? ...

$176 @ TFsource: http://tfsource.com/products/view/product_id/5437/

$120 @ BBTS (Clearance!): http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

Thanks, but if I did, I would only get the limbs. Still debating though.

The limbs are $38 apiece on BBTS... so you're still paying $32 less for the set, and get Onslaught as a bonus.

Yea, just did the math.
Still not sure, I only really collect MPs these days, so I'mstill debating, I just found out that I could afford Unimetal Optimus.
So I'm currently doing number crunching for my oddity shelf; this thing, Unimetal Optimus, or the Black MP repaints. I can only jump for one of those options right now, but currently I'm leaning towards the black MPs.

But damn, that pic does make it kinda hard.

I'm all for Black MPs. Those will become my desk fodder.

Don't know why it took me so long to do this, but here is my attempt and guesstimating MBC002s height. He has been moved slightly lower than Devastator, to make it look like he is standing in front of him, and appears to be very close to Herc's height.

Hopefully Microblaze will release some actual info with the next round of images

EDIT: I slightly up-sized Bruticus, when I looked closely I felt he 'might've' been a little too short.

Arctorro wrote:Don't know why it took me so long to do this, but here is my attempt and guesstimating MBC002s height. He has been moved slightly lower than Devastator, to make it look like he is standing in front of him, and appears to be very close to Herc's height.

Hopefully Microblaze will release some actual info with the next round of images

EDIT: I slightly up-sized Bruticus, when I looked closely I felt he 'might've' been a little too short.

Feels like Intimidator might be half-a-head too short... but who knows?

megatronus wrote:Feels like Intimidator might be half-a-head too short... but who knows?

Definitely possible, we will find out soon enough

Arctorro wrote:

megatronus wrote:Feels like Intimidator might be half-a-head too short... but who knows?

Definitely possible, we will find out soon enough

Indeed!

Can't wait for Diesel to finally ship out... and to get some preorders up for this MBC Onslaught.