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by **Rated X** » Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:21 am

Tsutsukakushi wrote:
xyl360 wrote:
Rated X wrote:Im getting my leo dux tomorrow. I love the way he looks. But I do agree the V shaped faceplate blows monkey balls. Hopefully someone will heed the call for a better head that feels right when applied.

Why is the faceplate bothering you guys? The G1 figure had the same thing, which is why MMC did so with theirs:

If Feral Rex's mouth plate looked like the 1986 version. Then I would mind a bit less.

The Feral Rex mouth plate has that overly simplified V indent on the mouth plate. It looks like Feral rex is overly Smilling.

I just need more detail on that V indented mouth on Feral Rex. Like The fanged teeth on the bottom of the mouth like the 1986 Predaking mouth has.

I liked that Cybertron Leobreaker beasty looking robot mouth with all those animal fangs. If Feral Rex had Beasty Fanged teeth on the bottom & top of those V indented mouth lips. I'd love this.

Wish I had some kitbash Putty skills. That indented V mouth looks like it's easy to fill in. I like the TFC Ares Face plate better.

MMC creates great sculpts. Sadly MMC creates ugly,Weird looking head & face sculpts. It seems like one guy does the head sculpts. While another guy does the body sculpt.

Had G1 predaking for almost 3 years and never noticed that. At least it isnt exaggerated like MMC did. Really it looks like a big stupid kremzeek mouth over the faceplate. I dont give a crap about toy accuracy. The cartoons sole purpose was to bring the characters to life by removing toy accurate flaws that looked just plain bad. So ill take a cartoon accurate head over a toy accurate head any day of the week.

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Sat Apr 05, 2014 1:07 pm

Talon looks awesome! :KREMZEEK:

Website · by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Sat Apr 05, 2014 4:19 pm

Talon looks great.

I think... patience is a virtue. I'm holding off for him to process. Yes, holding off. Deep, calming breaths...

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:01 am

Fortis and Leo arrived today, and they're mostly great. Fortis's connector joint is much smoother than my Bovis, which still requires a screwdriver or other form of leverage to move. I think I'll have to contact MMC about that. And why does Fortis come with a replacement ass for Bovis? I think I missed the memo on that one, or I just forgot since it's been a while.

by **Rated X** » Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:49 am

Did anyone get the Predaking gun with Leo Dux that Peaugh shows in the video ? He said it comes with Leo Dux. It's not pictured in the instructions, maybe it will come with one of the remaining two figures ?

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:13 am

Not in the instructions, no space in the packaging. That is odd.

News Credits: 1 · by **Gauntlet101010** » Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:16 am

Rated X wrote:
Tsutsukakushi wrote:
xyl360 wrote:
Rated X wrote:Im getting my leo dux tomorrow. I love the way he looks. But I do agree the V shaped faceplate blows monkey balls. Hopefully someone will heed the call for a better head that feels right when applied.

Why is the faceplate bothering you guys? The G1 figure had the same thing, which is why MMC did so with theirs:

If Feral Rex's mouth plate looked like the 1986 version. Then I would mind a bit less.

The Feral Rex mouth plate has that overly simplified V indent on the mouth plate. It looks like Feral rex is overly Smilling.

I just need more detail on that V indented mouth on Feral Rex. Like The fanged teeth on the bottom of the mouth like the 1986 Predaking mouth has.

I liked that Cybertron Leobreaker beasty looking robot mouth with all those animal fangs. If Feral Rex had Beasty Fanged teeth on the bottom & top of those V indented mouth lips. I'd love this.

Wish I had some kitbash Putty skills. That indented V mouth looks like it's easy to fill in. I like the TFC Ares Face plate better.

MMC creates great sculpts. Sadly MMC creates ugly,Weird looking head & face sculpts. It seems like one guy does the head sculpts. While another guy does the body sculpt.

Had G1 predaking for almost 3 years and never noticed that. At least it isnt exaggerated like MMC did. Really it looks like a big stupid kremzeek mouth over the faceplate. I dont give a crap about toy accuracy. The cartoons sole purpose was to bring the characters to life by removing toy accurate flaws that looked just plain bad. So ill take a cartoon accurate head over a toy accurate head any day of the week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArlzTAnMLBs go to :48

Not sure I want a cartoon accurate head.

News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:21 am

Gauntlet101010 wrote:
Rated X wrote:
Tsutsukakushi wrote:
xyl360 wrote:
Rated X wrote:Im getting my leo dux tomorrow. I love the way he looks. But I do agree the V shaped faceplate blows monkey balls. Hopefully someone will heed the call for a better head that feels right when applied.

Why is the faceplate bothering you guys? The G1 figure had the same thing, which is why MMC did so with theirs:

If Feral Rex's mouth plate looked like the 1986 version. Then I would mind a bit less.

The Feral Rex mouth plate has that overly simplified V indent on the mouth plate. It looks like Feral rex is overly Smilling.

I just need more detail on that V indented mouth on Feral Rex. Like The fanged teeth on the bottom of the mouth like the 1986 Predaking mouth has.

I liked that Cybertron Leobreaker beasty looking robot mouth with all those animal fangs. If Feral Rex had Beasty Fanged teeth on the bottom & top of those V indented mouth lips. I'd love this.

Wish I had some kitbash Putty skills. That indented V mouth looks like it's easy to fill in. I like the TFC Ares Face plate better.

MMC creates great sculpts. Sadly MMC creates ugly,Weird looking head & face sculpts. It seems like one guy does the head sculpts. While another guy does the body sculpt.

Had G1 predaking for almost 3 years and never noticed that. At least it isnt exaggerated like MMC did. Really it looks like a big stupid kremzeek mouth over the faceplate. I dont give a crap about toy accuracy. The cartoons sole purpose was to bring the characters to life by removing toy accurate flaws that looked just plain bad. So ill take a cartoon accurate head over a toy accurate head any day of the week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArlzTAnMLBs go to :48

Not sure I want a cartoon accurate head.

HAHAHAH wth? must be an animation error. It couldn't have looked like that all the time... can it?

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:23 am

That Bot wrote:Fortis and Leo arrived today, and they're mostly great. Fortis's connector joint is much smoother than my Bovis, which still requires a screwdriver or other form of leverage to move. I think I'll have to contact MMC about that. And why does Fortis come with a replacement ass for Bovis? I think I missed the memo on that one, or I just forgot since it's been a while.

If I remember correctly, I think some were seeing stress marks around one of the screw holes. I think it was the lower most one. I made a fool of myself looking at my toy's crotch with the legs spread wide trying to see if there were any stress marks. :oops:

I tried explaining to the wife...

(I didn't find any on my figure.)

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:29 am

Rated X wrote:Did anyone get the Predaking gun with Leo Dux that Peaugh shows in the video ? He said it comes with Leo Dux. It's not pictured in the instructions, maybe it will come with one of the remaining two figures ?

Leo Dux's gun comes with Talon.

by **guarayakha** » Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:55 am

megatronus wrote:
Rated X wrote:Did anyone get the Predaking gun with Leo Dux that Peaugh shows in the video ? He said it comes with Leo Dux. It's not pictured in the instructions, maybe it will come with one of the remaining two figures ?

Leo Dux's gun comes with Talon.

Or Tigris? Since there isn't much stuff that comes with him, while Talon has his wings.
Also Peaugh's update on test shot vs final:

News Credits: 3 · by **Midnight_Fox** » Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:58 pm

mooncake623 wrote:
HAHAHAH wth? must be an animation error. It couldn't have looked like that all the time... can it?

The times it doesn't look like that, it's a featureless orange slate.

News Credits: 1 · by **Gauntlet101010** » Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:41 pm

Midnight_Fox wrote:
mooncake623 wrote:
HAHAHAH wth? must be an animation error. It couldn't have looked like that all the time... can it?

The times it doesn't look like that, it's a featureless orange slate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvdDuokBaMs - at :30 -Gotta love that toon accuracy.

I think the character model was just confusing. It looks like most animators thought the forehead was the entire head. But in the pic you posted you can see his black visor and detailed faceplate.

So, you see, X? Even the cartoon agrees that Predaking's faceplate should be detailed. When hey don't give him the head off an alternate animation model or mistake his forehead for his actual head, anyway.

by **Rated X** » Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:44 pm

megatronus wrote:
Rated X wrote:Did anyone get the Predaking gun with Leo Dux that Peaugh shows in the video ? He said it comes with Leo Dux. It's not pictured in the instructions, maybe it will come with one of the remaining two figures ?

Leo Dux's gun comes with Talon.

Thanks. I was scared that maybe it came as an extra part in a baggie and BBTS forgot it.

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:30 pm

Rated X wrote:
megatronus wrote:
Rated X wrote:Did anyone get the Predaking gun with Leo Dux that Peaugh shows in the video ? He said it comes with Leo Dux. It's not pictured in the instructions, maybe it will come with one of the remaining two figures ?

Leo Dux's gun comes with Talon.

Thanks. I was scared that maybe it came as an extra part in a baggie and BBTS forgot it.

No worries.

According to Peaugh, they just wanted to even out the accessories that came with each one, so Leo Dux's official gun/rifle will come with one of the final two. He can apparently wield either of his back cannons as an arm rifle as well, if you want to make due with something more improvised until the next figures start shipping out.

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:58 am

guarayakha wrote:
megatronus wrote: Leo Dux's gun comes with Talon.

Or Tigris? Since there isn't much stuff that comes with him, while Talon has his wings.

I don't think it would be a wise move by MMC to include the Leo Dux big gun with Tigris. Because then buyers of MMC R 07 Felisaber would also expect the big Leo Dux gun to come packaged with Felisaber.

MMC Would be wise to just skip the headaces & complaints from Felisaber buyers. by simply including the Leo Dux big gun with Talon.

If MMC wanted everyone to buy Felisaber. MMC could include the big Leo dux gun with Felisaber. but they probably are not going to do this because something like this would be deemed kinda cruel.

I'd like at some point for MMC or another 3rd party company. To create a fully articulated Pretender beast shell for the MMC Felisber Catilla figure to fit inside of. Perhaps the newer fully articulated pretender shell can even transform into a robot mode with MMC Felisaber inside the shell in both modes.

by **TheGrognard** » Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:48 am

Felisaber is going to be an afterthought. It's already been pushed back by MMC, do not think it is going to play a major part in Feral Rex designs etc.

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:11 am

Tsutsukakushi wrote:
guarayakha wrote:
megatronus wrote: Leo Dux's gun comes with Talon.

Or Tigris? Since there isn't much stuff that comes with him, while Talon has his wings.

I don't think it would be a wise move by MMC to include the Leo Dux big gun with Tigris. Because then buyers of MMC R 07 Felisaber would also expect the big Leo Dux gun to come packaged with Felisaber.

MMC Would be wise to just skip the headaces & complaints from Felisaber buyers. by simply including the Leo Dux big gun with Talon.

If MMC wanted everyone to buy Felisaber. MMC could include the big Leo dux gun with Felisaber. but they probably are not going to do this because something like this would be deemed kinda cruel.

I'd like at some point for MMC or another 3rd party company. To create a fully articulated Pretender beast shell for the MMC Felisber Catilla figure to fit inside of. Perhaps the newer fully articulated pretender shell can even transform into a robot mode with MMC Felisaber inside the shell in both modes.

Even if Leo Dux's gun came with Tigris and not Talon, I suspect that Feral Rex buyers are already knowledgeable enough about Predaking to understand what's going on with the Felisaber figure. :roll:

News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:16 am

megatronus wrote:
Tsutsukakushi wrote:
guarayakha wrote:
megatronus wrote: Leo Dux's gun comes with Talon.

Or Tigris? Since there isn't much stuff that comes with him, while Talon has his wings.

I don't think it would be a wise move by MMC to include the Leo Dux big gun with Tigris. Because then buyers of MMC R 07 Felisaber would also expect the big Leo Dux gun to come packaged with Felisaber.

MMC Would be wise to just skip the headaces & complaints from Felisaber buyers. by simply including the Leo Dux big gun with Talon.

If MMC wanted everyone to buy Felisaber. MMC could include the big Leo dux gun with Felisaber. but they probably are not going to do this because something like this would be deemed kinda cruel.

I'd like at some point for MMC or another 3rd party company. To create a fully articulated Pretender beast shell for the MMC Felisber Catilla figure to fit inside of. Perhaps the newer fully articulated pretender shell can even transform into a robot mode with MMC Felisaber inside the shell in both modes.

Even if Leo Dux's gun came with Tigris and not Talon, I suspect that Feral Rex buyers are already knowledgeable enough about Predaking to understand what's going on with the Felisaber figure.

Hey Megs! What's going on? How are you liking Leo Dux?
I think Leo Dux is Superior because he is 8.137634 inches tall while UT's is only 5.123872346 inches tall he is shorter therefor he is inferior to MMC's Razerclaw! It is a fact! yes :grin:

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:22 am

mooncake623 wrote:Hey Megs! What's going on? How are you liking Leo Dux?
I think Leo Dux is Superior because he is 8.137634 inches tall while UT's is only 5.123872346 inches tall he is shorter therefor he is inferior to MMC's Razerclaw! It is a fact! yes

That post! It's..

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:52 am

TheGrognard wrote:Felisaber is going to be an afterthought. It's already been pushed back by MMC, do not think it is going to play a major part in Feral Rex designs etc.

Right. Felisaber is going to be a PSX exclusive, built to the number of preorders made. It won't be integral to the design of the overall figure, except for those that want to use him as the left arm and put Talon in his entirety on the back of the figure.

Me, I'm going to keep Felisaber in alt mode, purring at the feet of Feral Rex. At least until I can have a Predacon Queen to go along with him. Muahahahaha!

(As an aside, loved that last comment, Mooncake. I'm done trying to tame the troll... 8-}

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News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:07 pm

Agamemnon wrote:
TheGrognard wrote:Felisaber is going to be an afterthought. It's already been pushed back by MMC, do not think it is going to play a major part in Feral Rex designs etc.

Right. Felisaber is going to be a PSX exclusive, built to the number of preorders made. It won't be integral to the design of the overall figure, except for those that want to use him as the left arm and put Talon in his entirety on the back of the figure.

Me, I'm going to keep Felisaber in alt mode, purring at the feet of Feral Rex. At least until I can have a Predacon Queen to go along with him. Muahahahaha!

I'm leaning towards picking Felisaber up, if only to tamp down the need to disassemble Feral Rex. An extra figure to fiddle with goes a long way!

Just checked - no preorder on PSX just yet. :-$

Agamemnon wrote:(As an aside, loved that last comment, Mooncake. I'm done trying to tame the troll... )

That comment was magic. Magic, I say! :BOWDOWN:

News Credits: 1 · by **SkyWarpsGhost** » Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:50 pm

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:03 pm

All of these pics are awesome! I finally had to ship my POL withy Leo in it. (Had a gift for my daughter in there, believe it or not.) I hope Talon still comes somewhere near the end of the month, but I will probably wait until Before and After for the next shipment.

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:50 pm

Those pics are awesome! Wish I could afford 2 of each right out of the gate. Maybe I'll pick up a second set if they do a discounted set of 5.

My Leo Dux came in today, and he's awesome! Even with all the pics, and knowing he was going to be big, I'm still awed at how hefty he actually is. Also, TFsource was kind enough to include batteries, which was nice.